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Thread: drought of ancient DNA papers on prehistoric Europe/SW Asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erikl86 View Post
    Quite possible. Question is - did they or did they not leave any mark on their Iron Age neighbor Levantines ? Philistines lived adjacent to Judeans, and according to at least one Biblical story, that of Samson, there seemed to have been intermarriage between them.

    Also, after 604 BC the 5 Philistine cities were desolated by the Babylonians - where did their descendants go?

    Is it possible that Judean Jews, intermarrying Philistines, already plotted away from most Levantines and slightly closer to modern day Cypriots? If so, how come then that Samaritans, which historically are probably the closest modern living population to Judean Jews overlap with Bronze Age Levantines and seemingly show no such geneflow?
    My guess would be that the actual Aegean genetic input, by the time the Philistines intermarried with Judaeans, was low and got absorbed into the population to be almost nothing. I would assume the Philistines at some point were culturally Aegean, genetically Levantine more or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    My guess would be that the actual Aegean genetic input, by the time the Philistines intermarried with Judaeans, was low and got absorbed into the population to be almost nothing. I would assume the Philistines at some point were culturally Aegean, genetically Levantine more or less.
    I tend to agree - because if not, that would have dramatic consequences.
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    One of my hobbies, besides ancient DNA, is space exploration and one thing that they have in common - is that everything get delayed. Some ancient DNA papers are delayed as much as JWST.

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    This thread is about the lack of new papers about ancient dna. There's still a lot of conversations going on in the ancient dna subforum, but we're still waiting for a bunch of new papers that haven't arrived yet. Meanwhile, things are pretty dull.
     


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    Hopefully something good soon.

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    How about doing something while we're waiting?

    I issue a challenge to anyone able to use qpgraph.
    Fit all significant populations at the 10,000ybp or greater time depth (see below) onto a single graph whilst not exceeding a greatest outlier z-score in excess of the standard acceptable limit of +/- 3.
    Ust_Ishim
    Tianyuan
    Kostenki14/Sunghir (same thing)
    Vestonice16
    GoyetQ116-1
    ElMiron
    Villabruna
    MA1
    Ancient Americans (Anzick, Kennewick, etc.)
    Taforalt
    CHG
    Iran_N
    Levant_N
    Anatolia_N

    And if possible, possibly not due to low snp coverage...
    Oase1
    AG3
    Natufian

    I'll gladly help construct the graph, I just can't get qpgraph to run because of issues resolving dependencies.
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    Any news, tweets or whatever regarding any forthcoming samples from Mesopotamia?

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    Some news about current progress of SUGRIGE project(about ancient DNA of Uralic peoples): https://blogs.helsinki.fi/paleogenet...s-13122018.pdf

    On page 3:

    Tällä hetkellä n. 400 näytettä eri puolelta Suomea, luoteis-Venäjältä sekä Latviasta
    Ikähaarukka 6000 – 200 vuotta
    Suomesta ei löydy 2000 vuotta vanhempia luita -> fokus rautakaudessa
    Laboratorioanalyysit Max Planck–instituutissa Jenassa, Saksassa
    Populaatiogenomiikka (laskennallinen osuus) Suomessa ja Saksassa
    8 tutkijaa, HY, MPI, TY

    There are currently about 400 samples from all over Finland, northwest Russia and Latvia
    Age range 6000 - 200 years
    There are no bones in Finland older than 2000 years -> focus in the Iron Age
    Laboratory analyzes at Max Planck Institute in Jena, Germany
    Population genomics (computational share) in Finland and Germany
    8 researchers, HY, MPI, TY

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