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    So, anyone have a good list of mummies?

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    What I most hope to see for this year are the Sumerians. Does anyone know if it will come out this year and what period are the genomes?

    Why does there appear to be a shortage of Mesopotamian data? has to do with lowlands? It seems that there are many genomes of the adjacent highlands, such as zagros and kopet-dag, but very little between rivers. Likewise, it appears to have very little archaeological record before Ubaid and Samarra. Have good bone material prior to these periods?

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    I had never heard of theories that put Indo-European homeland in Mesopotamia. Who talked about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandro Max View Post
    I had never heard of theories that put Indo-European homeland in Mesopotamia. Who talked about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    What do you think the origin of the Sumerians could have been, as far as I know their language was neither Indo-European or Semitic, could be a connection to the Harappa culture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alain View Post
    What do you think the origin of the Sumerians could have been, as far as I know their language was neither Indo-European or Semitic, could be a connection to the Harappa culture?
    Don't know, and it's not something that I find very interesting. But don't expect any surprises when you finally see samples from Sumerian sites. They'll be fairly typical Mesopotamians, and very similar to the Syrian EMBA and Iranian Chalcolithc samples that we already have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    Don't know, and it's not something that I find very interesting. But don't expect any surprises when you finally see samples from Sumerian sites. They'll be fairly typical Mesopotamians, and very similar to the Syrian EMBA and Iranian Chalcolithc samples that we already have.
    OK, thanks, I think it's interesting, but it's always a matter of opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    Don't know, and it's not something that I find very interesting. But don't expect any surprises when you finally see samples from Sumerian sites. They'll be fairly typical Mesopotamians, and very similar to the Syrian EMBA and Iranian Chalcolithc samples that we already have.
    You have some inside info regarding upcoming samples from Mesopotamia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michalis Moriopoulos View Post
    Let's hope predynastic samples like Naqada are not in Egyptian hands then.

    Predynastic Naqadans would be genetically similar to Bedouin B

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    I haven't found an easy and deep list of mummies. Wikipedia isn't enough.

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    Margaryan et al Viking paper was accepted so it and the data might be coming out soon
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