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    Analysis of a northern french

    The northern french is my father. His 23&me results are available for a few days, and I got his DnaLand and Gedmatch results since yesterday. I have summarized all this for him, and I'll post this here too. I tell "northern french", but it's not exactly true. His father was from northern Normandy (Anglesqueville-l'Esneval, not far from Dieppe, now only a hamlet of Val-de-Saane), but his mother was born in Belgium. That said my grand'mother was not really belgian: her father was born in Netherland, near Burgum; her mother has a rather mysterious genealoy, we suspect her to have a baltic origin, perhaps finnish. Mt Haplogroup K1c1c, Y haplogroup: mine, of course. I'll post his only regional ancestral composition with 23&me, because the old man does'nt like the subregional one ( not enough "scandinavian" for the "viking myth", you understand. In fact eveyone can imagine it: a mix of irish&british, french&german and broadly northern european, with a pinch of finnish in the three modes).
    23&me:
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    Gedmatch
     

    Eurogenes K13


    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 45.68
    2 Baltic 29.27
    3 West_Med 15.46
    4 West_Asian 5.61
    5 Amerindian 1.89


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Swedish @ 7.395151
    2 North_German @ 7.503983
    3 North_Dutch @ 7.888863
    4 Norwegian @ 8.117766
    5 Danish @ 8.387772
    6 Orcadian @ 8.530278
    7 Irish @ 9.181323
    8 Southeast_English @ 9.591058
    9 Southwest_English @ 10.134337
    10 West_Scottish @ 10.328784
    11 South_Dutch @ 10.477957
    12 East_German @ 11.157239
    13 West_German @ 11.394754
    14 North_Swedish @ 11.649766
    15 Austrian @ 12.124599
    16 French @ 16.687845
    17 Hungarian @ 17.312307
    18 Southwest_Finnish @ 19.080364
    19 South_Polish @ 21.258793
    20 Croatian @ 22.025162

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% East_German +50% Irish @ 4.973002


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Danish +25% French_Basque +25% Lithuanian @ 4.114629


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French_Basque + Irish + Lithuanian + Swedish @ 3.025540
    2 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.062947
    3 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Norwegian + Swedish @ 3.170568
    4 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.242232
    5 French_Basque + Irish + Lithuanian + Norwegian @ 3.254847
    6 French_Basque + Lithuanian + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 3.330807
    7 French_Basque + Lithuanian + North_Dutch + Swedish @ 3.332335
    8 Estonian + French_Basque + Norwegian + Swedish @ 3.346931
    9 Estonian + French_Basque + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.381425
    10 French_Basque + Norwegian + Russian_Smolensk + Swedish @ 3.422065
    11 French_Basque + Lithuanian + North_German + Norwegian @ 3.459769
    12 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 3.468710
    13 French_Basque + Polish + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.474941
    14 Estonian + French_Basque + North_German + Swedish @ 3.498419
    15 Danish + French_Basque + Lithuanian + Norwegian @ 3.513151
    16 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.515236
    17 French_Basque + Russian_Smolensk + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.516353
    18 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.527264
    19 Estonian + French_Basque + Irish + Swedish @ 3.527664
    20 Estonian + French_Basque + North_Dutch + Swedish @ 3.531902


    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 70.9% Southwest_English + 29.1% Polish @ 3.61
    2 76.8% Southwest_English + 23.2% Lithuanian @ 3.69
    3 74.4% Southwest_English + 25.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.82
    4 76.5% Southwest_English + 23.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.84
    5 75% Southwest_English + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 3.9
    6 74.3% Southwest_English + 25.7% Estonian @ 3.9
    7 74.4% Irish + 25.6% Ukrainian @ 3.93
    8 71.9% Southwest_English + 28.1% Ukrainian @ 3.95
    9 73.9% Irish + 26.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.96
    10 79% Southwest_English + 21% Erzya @ 3.98
    11 90.2% Swedish + 9.8% Sardinian @ 4.01
    12 71.3% Southwest_English + 28.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.03
    13 74% Irish + 26% Polish @ 4.04
    14 80% Swedish + 20% Southwest_French @ 4.13
    15 75.7% Southwest_English + 24.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.14
    16 71.8% West_Scottish + 28.2% Ukrainian @ 4.18
    17 71.1% West_Scottish + 28.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.18
    18 75.6% Southwest_English + 24.4% Southwest_Russian @ 4.19
    19 75.2% Southwest_English + 24.8% Belorussian @ 4.19
    20 76.2% Orcadian + 23.8% Polish @ 4.26





    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 32.17
    2 Atlantic 27.17
    3 Eastern_Euro 13.39
    4 Baltic 12.95
    5 West_Med 10.10
    6 West_Asian 2.37
    7 Amerindian 1.42


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_German @ 6.758311
    2 Danish @ 7.296163
    3 Southwest_English @ 7.745912
    4 South_Dutch @ 7.817040
    5 Southeast_English @ 7.978297
    6 North_Dutch @ 8.034369
    7 Irish @ 8.621555
    8 West_Scottish @ 8.908905
    9 Norwegian @ 9.519853
    10 East_German @ 10.237940
    11 Swedish @ 10.540458
    12 North_Swedish @ 10.727185
    13 West_German @ 10.815099
    14 Orcadian @ 10.877260
    15 West_Norwegian @ 11.781225
    16 Southwest_Finnish @ 13.275576
    17 French @ 13.332002
    18 Austrian @ 15.817643
    19 Hungarian @ 16.678617
    20 Finnish @ 17.387712

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% East_German +50% West_Scottish @ 4.415026


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_Swedish +25% Southwest_French +25% West_Scottish @ 3.677287


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 East_Finnish + French_Basque + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.013219
    2 French_Basque + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 3.059927
    3 East_Finnish + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.140803
    4 French_Basque + Kargopol_Russian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.176139
    5 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Southwest_Finnish + West_Norwegian @ 3.233554
    6 French_Basque + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 3.252011
    7 French_Basque + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Swedish @ 3.296985
    8 East_Finnish + French_Basque + Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.326730
    9 Finnish + French_Basque + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.358926
    10 Finnish + French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.390854
    11 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.402786
    12 Finnish + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.408637
    13 Estonian + French_Basque + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.424889
    14 East_Finnish + French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.437434
    15 Estonian + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.564334
    16 French_Basque + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.565781
    17 Finnish + French_Basque + Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.566589
    18 French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.575367
    19 Finnish + French_Basque + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.598326
    20 Finnish + French_Basque + Norwegian + Swedish @ 3.612419

    1 75% North_Swedish + 25% French_Basque @ 3
    2 80% Southwest_English + 20% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.05
    3 82.6% Southwest_English + 17.4% Erzya @ 3.22
    4 79.8% Southwest_English + 20.2% Estonian_Polish @ 3.31
    5 66% Southwest_English + 34% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.34
    6 76.3% Southwest_English + 23.7% Polish @ 3.42
    7 77% Southwest_English + 23% East_Finnish @ 3.5
    8 78.3% Southwest_English + 21.7% Estonian @ 3.52
    9 80.4% Southwest_English + 19.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.55
    10 80.3% Southwest_English + 19.7% Belorussian @ 3.59
    11 80.4% Southeast_English + 19.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.63
    12 79.6% Southwest_English + 20.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.68
    13 82.8% Southeast_English + 17.2% Erzya @ 3.69
    14 80.9% Southwest_English + 19.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.73
    15 82.6% Southwest_English + 17.4% Lithuanian @ 3.74
    16 80.1% Southeast_English + 19.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.8
    17 76.4% Southeast_English + 23.6% Polish @ 3.83
    18 73.2% Southwest_English + 26.8% Finnish @ 3.86
    19 54.4% West_Scottish + 45.6% East_German @ 3.88
    20 69.8% North_Swedish + 30.2% Southwest_French @ 3.92


    EUtest

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 ATLANTIC 25.40
    2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 24.78
    3 EAST_EURO 17.09
    4 SOUTH_BALTIC 15.81
    5 WEST_MED 12.93
    6 WEST_ASIAN 3.07


    Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
    13 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 NO @ 7.300683
    2 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.847395
    3 DK @ 7.960257
    4 NL @ 8.064288
    5 Orcadian @ 8.565112
    6 West_&_Central_German @ 8.882803
    7 North_Swedish @ 9.026586
    8 IE @ 9.057719
    9 Cornish @ 9.113873
    10 English @ 9.882864
    11 Scottish @ 10.601312
    12 AT @ 12.889522
    13 FR @ 15.888428
    14 South_Finnish @ 16.686949
    15 HU @ 16.954657
    16 PL @ 20.085995
    17 West_Russian @ 21.864815
    18 Serbian @ 21.866735
    19 East_Finnish @ 22.010309
    20 UA @ 22.200794

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Cornish +50% North_Swedish @ 5.453296


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% DK +25% French_Basque +25% North_Russian @ 3.993427


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French_Basque + NO + NO + North_Russian @ 2.958585
    2 East_Russian + French_Basque + NO + NO @ 2.963485
    3 East_Russian + French_Basque + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.987489
    4 French_Basque + NO + North_Russian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.060425
    5 East_Russian + French_Basque + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.095301
    6 French_Basque + North_Russian + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.232456
    7 Erzya + French_Basque + NO + NO @ 3.315462
    8 Erzya + French_Basque + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.379393
    9 DK + French_Basque + NO + North_Russian @ 3.404340
    10 DK + French_Basque + North_Russian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.417164
    11 East_Finnish + French_Basque + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.443154
    12 East_Finnish + French_Basque + NO + NO @ 3.459716
    13 DK + East_Russian + French_Basque + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.483440
    14 East_Russian + French_Basque + NO + North_Swedish @ 3.487495
    15 East_Finnish + French_Basque + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.496567
    16 Erzya + French_Basque + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.498962
    17 DK + East_Russian + French_Basque + NO @ 3.526393
    18 East_Russian + French_Basque + North_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.607383
    19 DK + Erzya + French_Basque + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.665067
    20 DK + Erzya + French_Basque + NO @ 3.678949

    Done.

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    1 77.6% North_Swedish + 22.4% French_Basque @ 3.72
    2 77.2% Cornish + 22.8% North_Russian @ 3.72
    3 75.6% Cornish + 24.4% East_Russian @ 3.87
    4 78.5% Cornish + 21.5% Erzya @ 4.14
    5 77.7% IE + 22.3% North_Russian @ 4.23
    6 68.8% Cornish + 31.2% South_Finnish @ 4.27
    7 76.1% IE + 23.9% East_Russian @ 4.34
    8 74.9% Cornish + 25.1% East_Finnish @ 4.34
    9 79.4% Orcadian + 20.6% North_Russian @ 4.38
    10 77.8% Orcadian + 22.2% East_Russian @ 4.44
    11 78.3% Cornish + 21.7% Northwest_Russian @ 4.44
    12 74.3% Cornish + 25.7% West_Russian @ 4.45
    13 75.4% IE + 24.6% Ukrainian-Russian @ 4.47
    14 74.3% IE + 25.7% West_Russian @ 4.57
    15 75.8% Cornish + 24.2% Ukrainian-Russian @ 4.57
    16 78.4% IE + 21.6% Northwest_Russian @ 4.6
    17 87.9% North_Swedish + 12.1% Sardinian @ 4.63
    18 74.7% IE + 25.3% UA @ 4.64
    19 75.7% Cornish + 24.3% EE @ 4.67
    20 76.9% Cornish + 23.1% Belorussian @ 4.7


    MDLP K23b

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 44.68
    2 European_Early_Farmers 22.24
    3 Caucasian 18.31
    4 South_Central_Asian 5.63
    5 Ancestral_Altaic 4.84
    6 Amerindian 1.23
    7 Near_East 0.97
    8 Khoisan 0.75
    9 Paleo_Siberian 0.56
    10 Arctic 0.36
    11 East_Siberian 0.3
    12 Melano_Polynesian 0.09
    13 Australoid 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Swede ( ) 3.69
    2 Dane ( ) 4.28
    3 Norwegian_East ( ) 4.57
    4 Icelandic ( ) 6.69
    5 Norwegian_West ( ) 6.82
    6 North_German ( ) 7.18
    7 Dutch ( ) 7.21
    8 Swede_Saami ( ) 7.41
    9 North_European ( ) 7.59
    10 English ( ) 7.81
    11 Irish ( ) 8.32
    12 Belgian ( ) 9.2
    13 CEU ( ) 9.39
    14 Frisian ( ) 9.54
    15 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) 9.61
    16 British ( ) 10.32
    17 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 10.47
    18 Finn_West ( ) 10.53
    19 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 10.54
    20 Welsh ( ) 10.64

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 66.9% Orcadian ( ) + 33.1% Estonian ( ) @ 1.5
    2 78% Icelandic ( ) + 22% Latvian ( ) @ 1.51
    3 69.7% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 30.3% Estonian ( ) @ 1.52
    4 68% Orcadian ( ) + 32% Latvian ( ) @ 1.54
    5 77.5% Icelandic ( ) + 22.5% Balt ( ) @ 1.55
    6 80.2% Icelandic ( ) + 19.8% Mordovian ( ) @ 1.6
    7 79.8% Icelandic ( ) + 20.2% Lithuanian ( ) @ 1.61
    8 76.1% Icelandic ( ) + 23.9% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 1.61
    9 77.1% Icelandic ( ) + 22.9% Estonian ( ) @ 1.62
    10 76% Icelandic ( ) + 24% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 1.63
    11 80.6% Icelandic ( ) + 19.4% Russian_Center ( ) @ 1.68
    12 81.5% Icelandic ( ) + 18.5% Belarusian_Russian ( ) @ 1.71
    13 81.5% Icelandic ( ) + 18.5% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) @ 1.71
    14 75.7% Icelandic ( ) + 24.3% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 1.74
    15 70.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 29.1% Latvian ( ) @ 1.77
    16 77.2% Icelandic ( ) + 22.8% Russian-West ( ) @ 1.78
    17 74.9% Icelandic ( ) + 25.1% Erzya ( ) @ 1.8
    18 79.8% Icelandic ( ) + 20.2% Belarusian_South ( ) @ 1.81
    19 76.9% Icelandic ( ) + 23.1% Moksha ( ) @ 1.82
    20 78.9% Icelandic ( ) + 21.1% Russian_Vologda ( ) @ 1.84

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Finn_West +50% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 2.649538


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Icelandic +25% Icelandic +25% Russian-West @ 1.666560


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Balt + Icelandic + Icelandic + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.640987
    2 Icelandic + Icelandic + Icelandic + Russian-West @ 1.666560
    3 Estonian + Icelandic + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.680544
    4 Icelandic + Icelandic + Icelandic + Russian_Meshtchyora @ 1.683037
    5 Icelandic + Icelandic + Icelandic + Russian-Upper-Volga @ 1.690222
    6 Icelandic + Icelandic + Norwegian_West + Russian_Meshtchyora @ 1.712777
    7 Balt + Icelandic + Icelandic + Orcadian @ 1.718256
    8 Estonian + Norwegian_West + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.720837
    9 Icelandic + Latvian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.733102
    10 Icelandic + Icelandic + Icelandic + Russian-North-West @ 1.750812
    11 Balt + Icelandic + Norwegian_West + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.757480
    12 Estonian + Norwegian_East + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.758341
    13 CEU + Estonian + Icelandic + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.768965
    14 Latvian + Norwegian_West + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.775452
    15 Estonian + Icelandic + Irish + Orcadian @ 1.792585
    16 Dane + Estonian + Orcadian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.799496
    17 Estonian + Icelandic + Irish + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.815084
    18 Dane + Estonian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.819468
    19 Icelandic + Latvian + Orcadian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.823471
    20 Estonian + Icelandic + Orcadian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.829271

    MDLP K13 Ultimate


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 ENF 42.13
    2 WHG-UHG 29.22
    3 ANE 20.85
    4 Caucas-Gedrosia 5.15
    5 Arctic 1.27




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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_German @ 2.204659
    2 Sweden @ 2.664203
    3 Swede @ 2.864393
    4 Germany_North @ 2.866708
    5 English_GBR @ 3.466053
    6 English_Cornwall_GBR @ 3.768858
    7 North_European @ 3.895067
    8 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 4.059425
    9 English_Kent_GBR @ 4.523442
    10 Slovenian2 @ 4.642688
    11 European_Utah @ 4.647291
    12 Welsh @ 4.695847
    13 German @ 4.815155
    14 Sorbs @ 4.863932
    15 Czech @ 5.342691
    16 Orcadian @ 5.429959
    17 Slovak @ 5.437334
    18 Belgian @ 5.452122
    19 Poland @ 5.849391
    20 Czech2 @ 5.994565

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% English_GBR +50% Sweden @ 1.924052


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% English_Kent_GBR +25% Inkeri +25% North_German @ 1.304288


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 English_Kent_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + North_German @ 1.304288
    2 English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + North_European + Orcadian @ 1.317885
    3 English_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.324226
    4 Inkeri + Orcadian + Orcadian + Welsh @ 1.331867
    5 Belgian + Inkeri + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.338578
    6 English_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + Orcadian @ 1.358621
    7 English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + Orcadian + Welsh @ 1.359135
    8 English_Cornwall_GBR + European_Utah + Inkeri + Orcadian @ 1.361657
    9 English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + Norwegian + Welsh @ 1.371872
    10 English_GBR + English_GBR + Icelandic + Inkeri @ 1.379554
    11 English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + North_European + Norwegian @ 1.388418
    12 English_Cornwall_GBR + English_GBR + Inkeri + Orcadian @ 1.390808
    13 Belgian + English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + Norwegian @ 1.394061
    14 English_Kent_GBR + Icelandic + Inkeri + Welsh @ 1.395293
    15 Belgian + Inkeri + Orcadian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.401855
    16 English_Cornwall_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + North_German @ 1.402914
    17 English_GBR + English_GBR + Inkeri + Norwegian @ 1.405090
    18 Inkeri + North_European + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.417791
    19 Belgian + English_Cornwall_GBR + Icelandic + Inkeri @ 1.423811
    20 English_Kent_GBR + Germany_North + Inkeri + Orcadian @ 1.434189


    HarappaWorld


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Euro 51.77
    2 Mediterranean 31.56
    3 Baloch 7.9
    4 Caucasian 5.68
    5 Beringian 1.61
    6 American 1.25
    7 E-African 0.18
    8 Siberian 0.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 n-european (xing) 2.75
    2 utahn-white (hapmap) 2.94
    3 utahn-white (1000genomes) 3.24
    4 british (1000genomes) 4.46
    5 orcadian (hgdp) 5.98
    6 french (hgdp) 10.73
    7 hungarian (behar) 11.26
    8 slovenian (xing) 11.94
    9 ukranian (yunusbayev) 16.07
    10 belorussian (behar) 19.2
    11 mordovian (yunusbayev) 21.09
    12 russian (behar) 21.81
    13 spaniard (behar) 22.62
    14 russian (hgdp) 22.79
    15 spaniard (1000genomes) 23.49
    16 lithuanian (behar) 23.75
    17 romanian-a (behar) 24.65
    18 italian (hgdp) 26.48
    19 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 26.86
    20 chuvash (behar) 28.92

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 94.8% n-european (xing) + 5.2% basque (hgdp) @ 2.16
    2 94.5% n-european (xing) + 5.5% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 2.18
    3 97.6% utahn-white (hapmap) + 2.4% west-greenlander (rasmussen) @ 2.41
    4 98.2% utahn-white (hapmap) + 1.8% east-greenlander (rasmussen) @ 2.42
    5 62.2% n-european (xing) + 37.8% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 2.42
    6 74.7% n-european (xing) + 25.3% british (1000genomes) @ 2.44
    7 97.5% n-european (xing) + 2.5% sardinian (hgdp) @ 2.46
    8 95.2% n-european (xing) + 4.8% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 2.49
    9 97.3% n-european (xing) + 2.7% colombian (1000genomes) @ 2.5
    10 98.4% utahn-white (hapmap) + 1.6% chukchi (rasmussen) @ 2.51
    11 98.4% n-european (xing) + 1.6% west-greenlander (rasmussen) @ 2.53
    12 98.8% n-european (xing) + 1.2% east-greenlander (rasmussen) @ 2.53
    13 90.7% n-european (xing) + 9.3% french (hgdp) @ 2.53
    14 98.4% utahn-white (hapmap) + 1.6% koryak (rasmussen) @ 2.54
    15 96.6% utahn-white (hapmap) + 3.4% colombian (1000genomes) @ 2.55
    16 97.2% n-european (xing) + 2.8% puerto-rican (1000genomes) @ 2.57
    17 97.7% utahn-white (hapmap) + 2.3% mexican (1000genomes) @ 2.57
    18 98.5% n-european (xing) + 1.5% mexican (1000genomes) @ 2.58
    19 99% n-european (xing) + 1% chukchi (rasmussen) @ 2.58
    20 97.9% utahn-white (hapmap) + 2.1% ecuadorian (bryc) @ 2.58

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 n-european @ 2.842192
    2 utahn-white @ 3.035679
    3 utahn-white @ 3.410458
    4 british @ 4.761682
    5 orcadian @ 6.513896
    6 french @ 11.794836
    7 hungarian @ 12.416348
    8 slovenian @ 13.089838
    9 ukranian @ 17.354206
    10 belorussian @ 20.746397
    11 mordovian @ 22.611242
    12 serbian @ 22.807835
    13 russian @ 23.577967
    14 russian @ 24.465027
    15 spaniard @ 24.760263
    16 spaniard @ 25.702843
    17 lithuanian @ 25.785271
    18 romanian-a @ 27.412260
    19 italian @ 29.378506
    20 bulgarian @ 29.899443

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% n-european +50% utahn-white @ 2.529198


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% n-european +25% n-european +25% utahn-white @ 2.516703


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 lithuanian + orcadian + slovenian + spain-basc @ 2.014610
    2 british + lithuanian + slovenian + spain-basc @ 2.035368
    3 hungarian + lithuanian + orcadian + spain-basc @ 2.086063
    4 basque + lithuanian + slovenian + utahn-white @ 2.091486
    5 basque + lithuanian + orcadian + slovenian @ 2.096568
    6 hungarian + lithuanian + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.099779
    7 lithuanian + slovenian + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.132672
    8 lithuanian + slovenian + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.150773
    9 basque + hungarian + lithuanian + utahn-white @ 2.165107
    10 basque + british + lithuanian + slovenian @ 2.170069
    11 basque + lithuanian + slovenian + utahn-white @ 2.208316
    12 basque + belorussian + orcadian + ukranian @ 2.220471
    13 british + hungarian + lithuanian + spain-basc @ 2.229809
    14 hungarian + lithuanian + n-european + spain-basc @ 2.253763
    15 basque + lithuanian + n-european + slovenian @ 2.260628
    16 basque + hungarian + lithuanian + n-european @ 2.265586
    17 basque + hungarian + lithuanian + orcadian @ 2.271411
    18 hungarian + lithuanian + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.285755
    19 lithuanian + n-european + slovenian + spain-basc @ 2.359700
    20 basque + belorussian + british + ukranian @ 2.369625


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    Quote Originally Posted by anglesqueville View Post
    I'll post his only regional ancestral composition with 23&me, because the old man does'nt like the subregional one ( not enough "scandinavian" for the "viking myth", you understand. In fact eveyone can imagine it: a mix of irish&british, french&german and broadly northern european, with a pinch of finnish in the three modes).
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    Eurogenes K13


    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 45.68
    2 Baltic 29.27
    3 West_Med 15.46
    4 West_Asian 5.61
    5 Amerindian 1.89


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Swedish @ 7.395151
    2 North_German @ 7.503983
    3 North_Dutch @ 7.888863
    4 Norwegian @ 8.117766
    5 Danish @ 8.387772
    6 Orcadian @ 8.530278
    7 Irish @ 9.181323
    8 Southeast_English @ 9.591058
    9 Southwest_English @ 10.134337
    10 West_Scottish @ 10.328784
    11 South_Dutch @ 10.477957
    12 East_German @ 11.157239
    13 West_German @ 11.394754
    14 North_Swedish @ 11.649766
    15 Austrian @ 12.124599
    16 French @ 16.687845
    17 Hungarian @ 17.312307
    18 Southwest_Finnish @ 19.080364
    19 South_Polish @ 21.258793
    20 Croatian @ 22.025162

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% East_German +50% Irish @ 4.973002


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Danish +25% French_Basque +25% Lithuanian @ 4.114629


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French_Basque + Irish + Lithuanian + Swedish @ 3.025540
    2 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.062947
    3 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Norwegian + Swedish @ 3.170568
    4 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.242232
    5 French_Basque + Irish + Lithuanian + Norwegian @ 3.254847
    6 French_Basque + Lithuanian + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 3.330807
    7 French_Basque + Lithuanian + North_Dutch + Swedish @ 3.332335
    8 Estonian + French_Basque + Norwegian + Swedish @ 3.346931
    9 Estonian + French_Basque + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.381425
    10 French_Basque + Norwegian + Russian_Smolensk + Swedish @ 3.422065
    11 French_Basque + Lithuanian + North_German + Norwegian @ 3.459769
    12 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 3.468710
    13 French_Basque + Polish + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.474941
    14 Estonian + French_Basque + North_German + Swedish @ 3.498419
    15 Danish + French_Basque + Lithuanian + Norwegian @ 3.513151
    16 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.515236
    17 French_Basque + Russian_Smolensk + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.516353
    18 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.527264
    19 Estonian + French_Basque + Irish + Swedish @ 3.527664
    20 Estonian + French_Basque + North_Dutch + Swedish @ 3.531902


    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 70.9% Southwest_English + 29.1% Polish @ 3.61
    2 76.8% Southwest_English + 23.2% Lithuanian @ 3.69
    3 74.4% Southwest_English + 25.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.82
    4 76.5% Southwest_English + 23.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.84
    5 75% Southwest_English + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 3.9
    6 74.3% Southwest_English + 25.7% Estonian @ 3.9
    7 74.4% Irish + 25.6% Ukrainian @ 3.93
    8 71.9% Southwest_English + 28.1% Ukrainian @ 3.95
    9 73.9% Irish + 26.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.96
    10 79% Southwest_English + 21% Erzya @ 3.98
    11 90.2% Swedish + 9.8% Sardinian @ 4.01
    12 71.3% Southwest_English + 28.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.03
    13 74% Irish + 26% Polish @ 4.04
    14 80% Swedish + 20% Southwest_French @ 4.13
    15 75.7% Southwest_English + 24.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.14
    16 71.8% West_Scottish + 28.2% Ukrainian @ 4.18
    17 71.1% West_Scottish + 28.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.18
    18 75.6% Southwest_English + 24.4% Southwest_Russian @ 4.19
    19 75.2% Southwest_English + 24.8% Belorussian @ 4.19
    20 76.2% Orcadian + 23.8% Polish @ 4.26





    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 32.17
    2 Atlantic 27.17
    3 Eastern_Euro 13.39
    4 Baltic 12.95
    5 West_Med 10.10
    6 West_Asian 2.37
    7 Amerindian 1.42


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_German @ 6.758311
    2 Danish @ 7.296163
    3 Southwest_English @ 7.745912
    4 South_Dutch @ 7.817040
    5 Southeast_English @ 7.978297
    6 North_Dutch @ 8.034369
    7 Irish @ 8.621555
    8 West_Scottish @ 8.908905
    9 Norwegian @ 9.519853
    10 East_German @ 10.237940
    11 Swedish @ 10.540458
    12 North_Swedish @ 10.727185
    13 West_German @ 10.815099
    14 Orcadian @ 10.877260
    15 West_Norwegian @ 11.781225
    16 Southwest_Finnish @ 13.275576
    17 French @ 13.332002
    18 Austrian @ 15.817643
    19 Hungarian @ 16.678617
    20 Finnish @ 17.387712

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% East_German +50% West_Scottish @ 4.415026


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_Swedish +25% Southwest_French +25% West_Scottish @ 3.677287


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 East_Finnish + French_Basque + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.013219
    2 French_Basque + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 3.059927
    3 East_Finnish + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.140803
    4 French_Basque + Kargopol_Russian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.176139
    5 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Southwest_Finnish + West_Norwegian @ 3.233554
    6 French_Basque + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 3.252011
    7 French_Basque + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Swedish @ 3.296985
    8 East_Finnish + French_Basque + Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.326730
    9 Finnish + French_Basque + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.358926
    10 Finnish + French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.390854
    11 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.402786
    12 Finnish + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.408637
    13 Estonian + French_Basque + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.424889
    14 East_Finnish + French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.437434
    15 Estonian + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.564334
    16 French_Basque + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.565781
    17 Finnish + French_Basque + Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.566589
    18 French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.575367
    19 Finnish + French_Basque + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.598326
    20 Finnish + French_Basque + Norwegian + Swedish @ 3.612419

    1 75% North_Swedish + 25% French_Basque @ 3
    2 80% Southwest_English + 20% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.05
    3 82.6% Southwest_English + 17.4% Erzya @ 3.22
    4 79.8% Southwest_English + 20.2% Estonian_Polish @ 3.31
    5 66% Southwest_English + 34% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.34
    6 76.3% Southwest_English + 23.7% Polish @ 3.42
    7 77% Southwest_English + 23% East_Finnish @ 3.5
    8 78.3% Southwest_English + 21.7% Estonian @ 3.52
    9 80.4% Southwest_English + 19.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.55
    10 80.3% Southwest_English + 19.7% Belorussian @ 3.59
    11 80.4% Southeast_English + 19.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.63
    12 79.6% Southwest_English + 20.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.68
    13 82.8% Southeast_English + 17.2% Erzya @ 3.69
    14 80.9% Southwest_English + 19.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.73
    15 82.6% Southwest_English + 17.4% Lithuanian @ 3.74
    16 80.1% Southeast_English + 19.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.8
    17 76.4% Southeast_English + 23.6% Polish @ 3.83
    18 73.2% Southwest_English + 26.8% Finnish @ 3.86
    19 54.4% West_Scottish + 45.6% East_German @ 3.88
    20 69.8% North_Swedish + 30.2% Southwest_French @ 3.92


    EUtest

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 ATLANTIC 25.40
    2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 24.78
    3 EAST_EURO 17.09
    4 SOUTH_BALTIC 15.81
    5 WEST_MED 12.93
    6 WEST_ASIAN 3.07


    Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
    13 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 NO @ 7.300683
    2 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.847395
    3 DK @ 7.960257
    4 NL @ 8.064288
    5 Orcadian @ 8.565112
    6 West_&_Central_German @ 8.882803
    7 North_Swedish @ 9.026586
    8 IE @ 9.057719
    9 Cornish @ 9.113873
    10 English @ 9.882864
    11 Scottish @ 10.601312
    12 AT @ 12.889522
    13 FR @ 15.888428
    14 South_Finnish @ 16.686949
    15 HU @ 16.954657
    16 PL @ 20.085995
    17 West_Russian @ 21.864815
    18 Serbian @ 21.866735
    19 East_Finnish @ 22.010309
    20 UA @ 22.200794

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Cornish +50% North_Swedish @ 5.453296


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% DK +25% French_Basque +25% North_Russian @ 3.993427


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French_Basque + NO + NO + North_Russian @ 2.958585
    2 East_Russian + French_Basque + NO + NO @ 2.963485
    3 East_Russian + French_Basque + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.987489
    4 French_Basque + NO + North_Russian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.060425
    5 East_Russian + French_Basque + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.095301
    6 French_Basque + North_Russian + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.232456
    7 Erzya + French_Basque + NO + NO @ 3.315462
    8 Erzya + French_Basque + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.379393
    9 DK + French_Basque + NO + North_Russian @ 3.404340
    10 DK + French_Basque + North_Russian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.417164
    11 East_Finnish + French_Basque + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.443154
    12 East_Finnish + French_Basque + NO + NO @ 3.459716
    13 DK + East_Russian + French_Basque + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.483440
    14 East_Russian + French_Basque + NO + North_Swedish @ 3.487495
    15 East_Finnish + French_Basque + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.496567
    16 Erzya + French_Basque + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.498962
    17 DK + East_Russian + French_Basque + NO @ 3.526393
    18 East_Russian + French_Basque + North_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.607383
    19 DK + Erzya + French_Basque + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.665067
    20 DK + Erzya + French_Basque + NO @ 3.678949

    Done.

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    1 77.6% North_Swedish + 22.4% French_Basque @ 3.72
    2 77.2% Cornish + 22.8% North_Russian @ 3.72
    3 75.6% Cornish + 24.4% East_Russian @ 3.87
    4 78.5% Cornish + 21.5% Erzya @ 4.14
    5 77.7% IE + 22.3% North_Russian @ 4.23
    6 68.8% Cornish + 31.2% South_Finnish @ 4.27
    7 76.1% IE + 23.9% East_Russian @ 4.34
    8 74.9% Cornish + 25.1% East_Finnish @ 4.34
    9 79.4% Orcadian + 20.6% North_Russian @ 4.38
    10 77.8% Orcadian + 22.2% East_Russian @ 4.44
    11 78.3% Cornish + 21.7% Northwest_Russian @ 4.44
    12 74.3% Cornish + 25.7% West_Russian @ 4.45
    13 75.4% IE + 24.6% Ukrainian-Russian @ 4.47
    14 74.3% IE + 25.7% West_Russian @ 4.57
    15 75.8% Cornish + 24.2% Ukrainian-Russian @ 4.57
    16 78.4% IE + 21.6% Northwest_Russian @ 4.6
    17 87.9% North_Swedish + 12.1% Sardinian @ 4.63
    18 74.7% IE + 25.3% UA @ 4.64
    19 75.7% Cornish + 24.3% EE @ 4.67
    20 76.9% Cornish + 23.1% Belorussian @ 4.7


    MDLP K23b

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 44.68
    2 European_Early_Farmers 22.24
    3 Caucasian 18.31
    4 South_Central_Asian 5.63
    5 Ancestral_Altaic 4.84
    6 Amerindian 1.23
    7 Near_East 0.97
    8 Khoisan 0.75
    9 Paleo_Siberian 0.56
    10 Arctic 0.36
    11 East_Siberian 0.3
    12 Melano_Polynesian 0.09
    13 Australoid 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Swede ( ) 3.69
    2 Dane ( ) 4.28
    3 Norwegian_East ( ) 4.57
    4 Icelandic ( ) 6.69
    5 Norwegian_West ( ) 6.82
    6 North_German ( ) 7.18
    7 Dutch ( ) 7.21
    8 Swede_Saami ( ) 7.41
    9 North_European ( ) 7.59
    10 English ( ) 7.81
    11 Irish ( ) 8.32
    12 Belgian ( ) 9.2
    13 CEU ( ) 9.39
    14 Frisian ( ) 9.54
    15 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) 9.61
    16 British ( ) 10.32
    17 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 10.47
    18 Finn_West ( ) 10.53
    19 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 10.54
    20 Welsh ( ) 10.64

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 66.9% Orcadian ( ) + 33.1% Estonian ( ) @ 1.5
    2 78% Icelandic ( ) + 22% Latvian ( ) @ 1.51
    3 69.7% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 30.3% Estonian ( ) @ 1.52
    4 68% Orcadian ( ) + 32% Latvian ( ) @ 1.54
    5 77.5% Icelandic ( ) + 22.5% Balt ( ) @ 1.55
    6 80.2% Icelandic ( ) + 19.8% Mordovian ( ) @ 1.6
    7 79.8% Icelandic ( ) + 20.2% Lithuanian ( ) @ 1.61
    8 76.1% Icelandic ( ) + 23.9% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 1.61
    9 77.1% Icelandic ( ) + 22.9% Estonian ( ) @ 1.62
    10 76% Icelandic ( ) + 24% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 1.63
    11 80.6% Icelandic ( ) + 19.4% Russian_Center ( ) @ 1.68
    12 81.5% Icelandic ( ) + 18.5% Belarusian_Russian ( ) @ 1.71
    13 81.5% Icelandic ( ) + 18.5% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) @ 1.71
    14 75.7% Icelandic ( ) + 24.3% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 1.74
    15 70.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 29.1% Latvian ( ) @ 1.77
    16 77.2% Icelandic ( ) + 22.8% Russian-West ( ) @ 1.78
    17 74.9% Icelandic ( ) + 25.1% Erzya ( ) @ 1.8
    18 79.8% Icelandic ( ) + 20.2% Belarusian_South ( ) @ 1.81
    19 76.9% Icelandic ( ) + 23.1% Moksha ( ) @ 1.82
    20 78.9% Icelandic ( ) + 21.1% Russian_Vologda ( ) @ 1.84

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Finn_West +50% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 2.649538


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Icelandic +25% Icelandic +25% Russian-West @ 1.666560


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Balt + Icelandic + Icelandic + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.640987
    2 Icelandic + Icelandic + Icelandic + Russian-West @ 1.666560
    3 Estonian + Icelandic + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.680544
    4 Icelandic + Icelandic + Icelandic + Russian_Meshtchyora @ 1.683037
    5 Icelandic + Icelandic + Icelandic + Russian-Upper-Volga @ 1.690222
    6 Icelandic + Icelandic + Norwegian_West + Russian_Meshtchyora @ 1.712777
    7 Balt + Icelandic + Icelandic + Orcadian @ 1.718256
    8 Estonian + Norwegian_West + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.720837
    9 Icelandic + Latvian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.733102
    10 Icelandic + Icelandic + Icelandic + Russian-North-West @ 1.750812
    11 Balt + Icelandic + Norwegian_West + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.757480
    12 Estonian + Norwegian_East + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.758341
    13 CEU + Estonian + Icelandic + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.768965
    14 Latvian + Norwegian_West + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.775452
    15 Estonian + Icelandic + Irish + Orcadian @ 1.792585
    16 Dane + Estonian + Orcadian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.799496
    17 Estonian + Icelandic + Irish + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.815084
    18 Dane + Estonian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.819468
    19 Icelandic + Latvian + Orcadian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.823471
    20 Estonian + Icelandic + Orcadian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.829271

    MDLP K13 Ultimate


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 ENF 42.13
    2 WHG-UHG 29.22
    3 ANE 20.85
    4 Caucas-Gedrosia 5.15
    5 Arctic 1.27




    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_German @ 2.204659
    2 Sweden @ 2.664203
    3 Swede @ 2.864393
    4 Germany_North @ 2.866708
    5 English_GBR @ 3.466053
    6 English_Cornwall_GBR @ 3.768858
    7 North_European @ 3.895067
    8 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 4.059425
    9 English_Kent_GBR @ 4.523442
    10 Slovenian2 @ 4.642688
    11 European_Utah @ 4.647291
    12 Welsh @ 4.695847
    13 German @ 4.815155
    14 Sorbs @ 4.863932
    15 Czech @ 5.342691
    16 Orcadian @ 5.429959
    17 Slovak @ 5.437334
    18 Belgian @ 5.452122
    19 Poland @ 5.849391
    20 Czech2 @ 5.994565

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% English_GBR +50% Sweden @ 1.924052


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% English_Kent_GBR +25% Inkeri +25% North_German @ 1.304288


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 English_Kent_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + North_German @ 1.304288
    2 English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + North_European + Orcadian @ 1.317885
    3 English_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.324226
    4 Inkeri + Orcadian + Orcadian + Welsh @ 1.331867
    5 Belgian + Inkeri + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.338578
    6 English_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + Orcadian @ 1.358621
    7 English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + Orcadian + Welsh @ 1.359135
    8 English_Cornwall_GBR + European_Utah + Inkeri + Orcadian @ 1.361657
    9 English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + Norwegian + Welsh @ 1.371872
    10 English_GBR + English_GBR + Icelandic + Inkeri @ 1.379554
    11 English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + North_European + Norwegian @ 1.388418
    12 English_Cornwall_GBR + English_GBR + Inkeri + Orcadian @ 1.390808
    13 Belgian + English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + Norwegian @ 1.394061
    14 English_Kent_GBR + Icelandic + Inkeri + Welsh @ 1.395293
    15 Belgian + Inkeri + Orcadian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.401855
    16 English_Cornwall_GBR + English_Kent_GBR + Inkeri + North_German @ 1.402914
    17 English_GBR + English_GBR + Inkeri + Norwegian @ 1.405090
    18 Inkeri + North_European + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.417791
    19 Belgian + English_Cornwall_GBR + Icelandic + Inkeri @ 1.423811
    20 English_Kent_GBR + Germany_North + Inkeri + Orcadian @ 1.434189


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Euro 51.77
    2 Mediterranean 31.56
    3 Baloch 7.9
    4 Caucasian 5.68
    5 Beringian 1.61
    6 American 1.25
    7 E-African 0.18
    8 Siberian 0.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 n-european (xing) 2.75
    2 utahn-white (hapmap) 2.94
    3 utahn-white (1000genomes) 3.24
    4 british (1000genomes) 4.46
    5 orcadian (hgdp) 5.98
    6 french (hgdp) 10.73
    7 hungarian (behar) 11.26
    8 slovenian (xing) 11.94
    9 ukranian (yunusbayev) 16.07
    10 belorussian (behar) 19.2
    11 mordovian (yunusbayev) 21.09
    12 russian (behar) 21.81
    13 spaniard (behar) 22.62
    14 russian (hgdp) 22.79
    15 spaniard (1000genomes) 23.49
    16 lithuanian (behar) 23.75
    17 romanian-a (behar) 24.65
    18 italian (hgdp) 26.48
    19 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 26.86
    20 chuvash (behar) 28.92

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 94.8% n-european (xing) + 5.2% basque (hgdp) @ 2.16
    2 94.5% n-european (xing) + 5.5% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 2.18
    3 97.6% utahn-white (hapmap) + 2.4% west-greenlander (rasmussen) @ 2.41
    4 98.2% utahn-white (hapmap) + 1.8% east-greenlander (rasmussen) @ 2.42
    5 62.2% n-european (xing) + 37.8% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 2.42
    6 74.7% n-european (xing) + 25.3% british (1000genomes) @ 2.44
    7 97.5% n-european (xing) + 2.5% sardinian (hgdp) @ 2.46
    8 95.2% n-european (xing) + 4.8% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 2.49
    9 97.3% n-european (xing) + 2.7% colombian (1000genomes) @ 2.5
    10 98.4% utahn-white (hapmap) + 1.6% chukchi (rasmussen) @ 2.51
    11 98.4% n-european (xing) + 1.6% west-greenlander (rasmussen) @ 2.53
    12 98.8% n-european (xing) + 1.2% east-greenlander (rasmussen) @ 2.53
    13 90.7% n-european (xing) + 9.3% french (hgdp) @ 2.53
    14 98.4% utahn-white (hapmap) + 1.6% koryak (rasmussen) @ 2.54
    15 96.6% utahn-white (hapmap) + 3.4% colombian (1000genomes) @ 2.55
    16 97.2% n-european (xing) + 2.8% puerto-rican (1000genomes) @ 2.57
    17 97.7% utahn-white (hapmap) + 2.3% mexican (1000genomes) @ 2.57
    18 98.5% n-european (xing) + 1.5% mexican (1000genomes) @ 2.58
    19 99% n-european (xing) + 1% chukchi (rasmussen) @ 2.58
    20 97.9% utahn-white (hapmap) + 2.1% ecuadorian (bryc) @ 2.58

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 n-european @ 2.842192
    2 utahn-white @ 3.035679
    3 utahn-white @ 3.410458
    4 british @ 4.761682
    5 orcadian @ 6.513896
    6 french @ 11.794836
    7 hungarian @ 12.416348
    8 slovenian @ 13.089838
    9 ukranian @ 17.354206
    10 belorussian @ 20.746397
    11 mordovian @ 22.611242
    12 serbian @ 22.807835
    13 russian @ 23.577967
    14 russian @ 24.465027
    15 spaniard @ 24.760263
    16 spaniard @ 25.702843
    17 lithuanian @ 25.785271
    18 romanian-a @ 27.412260
    19 italian @ 29.378506
    20 bulgarian @ 29.899443

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% n-european +50% utahn-white @ 2.529198


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% n-european +25% n-european +25% utahn-white @ 2.516703


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 lithuanian + orcadian + slovenian + spain-basc @ 2.014610
    2 british + lithuanian + slovenian + spain-basc @ 2.035368
    3 hungarian + lithuanian + orcadian + spain-basc @ 2.086063
    4 basque + lithuanian + slovenian + utahn-white @ 2.091486
    5 basque + lithuanian + orcadian + slovenian @ 2.096568
    6 hungarian + lithuanian + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.099779
    7 lithuanian + slovenian + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.132672
    8 lithuanian + slovenian + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.150773
    9 basque + hungarian + lithuanian + utahn-white @ 2.165107
    10 basque + british + lithuanian + slovenian @ 2.170069
    11 basque + lithuanian + slovenian + utahn-white @ 2.208316
    12 basque + belorussian + orcadian + ukranian @ 2.220471
    13 british + hungarian + lithuanian + spain-basc @ 2.229809
    14 hungarian + lithuanian + n-european + spain-basc @ 2.253763
    15 basque + lithuanian + n-european + slovenian @ 2.260628
    16 basque + hungarian + lithuanian + n-european @ 2.265586
    17 basque + hungarian + lithuanian + orcadian @ 2.271411
    18 hungarian + lithuanian + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.285755
    19 lithuanian + n-european + slovenian + spain-basc @ 2.359700
    20 basque + belorussian + british + ukranian @ 2.369625


    Without betraying his trust.
    What is his level of British Irish

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    I take it that his mother was Flemish?

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    tchekitchek: his mother was of flemish birth (Ostende), but in fact she had likely nothing actually flemish: 1/2 frisian + 1/2 ??
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    If you suspect a line that was Viking 1100 years ago then stayed in Normandy and or went to England after 200 years later..how much Scandinavian Viking do you think you would see in the autosomal profile if very few of the people your ancestor married were Scandinavian? Maybe not too much after staying 1100 +/- years in Normandy and or 800 years in England unless they were always marrying Scandinavian women. You can also have a person who was a Viking raider and yet their haplogroup isn't typical Scandinavian. You can have a person with a very Scandinavian haplogroup who's line were never Viking too.

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    How about a peek at the sub-regional resolution level?

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    I'm not that much interested ( and a little tired ...) by all these viking stories now. But my father, who is only half normand, has always been obsessed by them, and he is too old to change. I have explained him that he has more recent affinities with Finland than with Denmark and Norway, but I know that he spent hours to list his scandinavian relatives. About the subregional level, he maintains it is bullshit ( 3% before phasing, 0.2% after in standard). The same happened with my mother one year ago, and she is 100% normand (likely, 75% certain). She wrote to 23&me in order to cancel the phasing and recover her non phased Ancestral Composition, which is impossible. A shame for me. I hope my father will not do the same.

    edit: while I'm at it, I did'nt post his map with SPA22. The friends who have worked with SPA some months ago are well aware that it's far from being undoubtable. Just for the fun, here is my father's map:
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    Il you compare against the results of 23&me and the few oracles I posted, it's not so bad after all.
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    If the 23andme results show some Finnish even in conservative mode, some ancestry from the region is indeed very likely. You should try a IBD/IBS segments test to confirm it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatAust21 View Post
    If the 23andme results show some Finnish even in conservative mode, some ancestry from the region is indeed very likely. You should try a IBD/IBS segments test to confirm it.
    This was the major reason why I got him tested, and that was not easy to make him accept. I had to know his Mt Haplo, and overall to verify that my unusually many finnish matches were not false positives. I've made a hard work, and for me there is no doubt, but no surprise either, as the analyses of close familial relatives on his line were giving too converging results. His mother had very likely a finnish origin, more likely east-finnish, not very ancient ( not before the XVIIth century in any case). I have even identified a group of three families which may be connected with him (and me). Now the ball is in the genealogic court.
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    You may have mentioned this before, but how much higher is the Finnish signal in your father versus yourself? Does this show signs of being a persistent element that is passed down in its entirety for generations?

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