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Thread: Suclade of E-V13, Z16663

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    Suclade of E-V13, Z16663

    So, I got the results from my paternal gr.mother's Y dna.

    E-V13>Z16663, through FTDNA's snp pack.

    Can't find much about it. Any suggestions about its origin etc?
    Other ancestral lines: Y dna: G>M406>M3302, E>V13>Z16663, J>M172>CTS904
    MtDna: I5a, J1d2a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asimakidis View Post
    So, I got the results from my paternal gr.mother's Y dna.

    E-V13>Z16663, through FTDNA's snp pack.

    Can't find much about it. Any suggestions about its origin etc?
    Nice work
    We need a lot more "Balkan"- and indeed all European- people sampled for V13 subclades to create any sort of picture.

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    Well, our curiosity is all we have right !

    From the forum on FTDNA (E-V13) I was told this:
    "Your branch is very rare. According to the Alf's spreadsheet, it is found only in scientific samples - one from the 1000 genome project from Tuscany and one from Sardinia. So definitely present in Italy and probably on the Balkans, but not many people tested deeper, yet."

    I guess I will have to wait until more people test to find new clues.
    Other ancestral lines: Y dna: G>M406>M3302, E>V13>Z16663, J>M172>CTS904
    MtDna: I5a, J1d2a.

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    quote..
    ". Z16663 is a very rare subclade. Up to now it was only found in 2 Sardinian samples and 1 Tuscan sample from large scale scientific studies."
    Other ancestral lines: Y dna: G>M406>M3302, E>V13>Z16663, J>M172>CTS904
    MtDna: I5a, J1d2a.

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    I am seeing some E-Z21371 popping up under Z16663, and one being from the same area as my ancestor (through my paternal gm's side). I have read some about the area that they came from and it seems it was a Fortress during Eastern Roman times. Sebinkarahisar (Mavrokatron =black fortress), named Koloneia ny the Romans. Could there be a link to that, considering E-z16663 usually is found in Italy and W.Europe.
    Other ancestral lines: Y dna: G>M406>M3302, E>V13>Z16663, J>M172>CTS904
    MtDna: I5a, J1d2a.

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    This is an old post, but I thought I'd hop on--I too have been tested down to E-Z16663. My last name is Hoffman, but I don't have any info on my great grandfather from before he migrated to the US from Eckersdorf, Bayreuth, Bavaria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arctangent View Post
    This is an old post, but I thought I'd hop on--I too have been tested down to E-Z16663. My last name is Hoffman, but I don't have any info on my great grandfather from before he migrated to the US from Eckersdorf, Bayreuth, Bavaria.
    Most likely a Roman soldier. Romans settled in areas they conquered, though it may be earlier around 3000 BCE

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    Last edited by Lupriac; 12-09-2018 at 06:00 PM.

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    I have been tested E-Z21371 (big Y in porogress right now) .
    My ancestors come from southern Moravia and I have a paper track up to the 16th century . Name is Stejskal/Stiskal and as it is a typically slavic name, it can be supposed that they have been living in this place since at least 9th century .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomasV View Post
    it can be supposed that they have been living in this place since at least 9th century .
    My advice is to not make such conclusions unless you can back them up with records. A jump of 7 centuries is gargantuan
    YDNA E-Y31991>PF4428>Y134097>Y134104>Y168273>FT17866 (TMRCA ~1000AD) - Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1690 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal - Stonemason, miller.
    mtDNA H20 - Monica Vieira, b. circa 1700 Hidden Content , Porto, Portugal

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