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    T in YFULL

    I was viewing the T ydna tree in Yfull and wanting to know the accuracy of the dates.......as per below ( red )

    T-CTS54 ..CTS54 * Z19896 * Z19926+23 SNPsformed 6400 ybp, TMRCA 2800 ybpinfo

    T-CTS54*
    id:NA20758TSI
    T-CTS8489 ..CTS10538 * CTS8489 * CTS9984+3 SNPsformed 2800 ybp, TMRCA 2200 ybpinfo
    T-CTS8489*
    id:HG01051PUR
    id:HG01530IBS
    T-Y17493.. Y17497 * Y17499 * Y17500+11 SNPsformed 2200 ybp, TMRCA 375 ybpinfo
    id:YF04232
    id:YF04203USA [US-NC]

    now, ybp = the year 1950, so
    1950 - 375 = 1575AD
    since T-Y17493 are only people from the USA and we know europeans first settled in USA ~1600 then is not this TMRCA for this SNP in error. ?

    I imagine T-Y17493 was only created in the USA as no other areas that I know of in the world has it.

    BYW.....as per Yfull, the oldest T ydna in the Arabian peninsula is only from 550AD ..................that is an eye-opener
    Last edited by vettor; 05-18-2016 at 06:53 PM.


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    95% confidence interval is from 850 to 150 ybp so it is consistent with a common ancestor living in the USA. But then again, you can't exclude a common ancestor back in the "original" (pre-migration/colonization) region either based on the confidence interval.

    Edit: Let me add to that that the TMRCA estimate is based on the listed kits that are positive for a certain mutation. If you have a US-biased testing community you can end up with too low true TMRCAs. A kit from somewhere else in the world can completely change the TMRCA.
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    I see that the site semargl

    is now using Yfull notations

    I am

    T1a2 L131>Y6033/L446>CTS933>CTS11984>CTS8862+ Europe

    are they the same people?


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


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    A branch of mine recently placed in yfull from Sardinia

    T-CTS8489CTS10538 * CTS8489 * CTS9984+3 SNPsformed 2800 ybp, TMRCA 2200 ybpinfo

    T-CTS8489*
    id:ERS256892ITA [IT-CA]new
    id:HG01051PUR
    id:HG01530IBS


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    I see that the site semargl

    is now using Yfull notations

    I am

    T1a2 L131>Y6033/L446>CTS933>CTS11984>CTS8862+ Europe

    are they the same people?
    As I had explained in another thread they have a person from Semargl on the YFull team

    (aka Semargl): active participant of the DNA genealogical community, the DNA database "semargl.me" developer, FTDNA group administrator and co-administrator, developer of the Z-series SNPs (for R1a, I, J2b), developer of the Y-series SNPs (for R1a, J2b, R2a, Q, O etc).
    http://www.isogg.org/wiki/YFull
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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    A branch of mine recently placed in yfull from Sardinia

    T-CTS8489CTS10538 * CTS8489 * CTS9984+3 SNPsformed 2800 ybp, TMRCA 2200 ybpinfo

    T-CTS8489*
    id:ERS256892ITA [IT-CA]new
    id:HG01051PUR
    id:HG01530IBS
    I had also explained two weeks ago in another thread that id:ERS256892ITA [IT-CA]new is from Cagliari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmandoR1b View Post
    I had also explained two weeks ago in another thread that id:ERS256892ITA [IT-CA]new is from Cagliari.
    yes you did, so what are you trying to say?

    That this sardinian is incorrectly placed on the tree?


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    I have purchased a Big Y ( ready in early December )..............I was wondering if the ftdna project people initiate my data to go to Yfull or is that my decision only ( I know I pay yfull at the end ). or ?


    On a side note:
    I recently discovered that the person in the link below sits next to me in a group of only 3 people in the ftdna project
    http://leefamily.biz/my-dna/

    we share very similar markers ( maybe we are over 1000 years apart )
    His ancestors are part of the Drakes of Plymouth and also the Jamison family ( which was noted in past Faux papers as Vikings from Iceland IIRC )


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    I have purchased a Big Y ( ready in early December )..............I was wondering if the ftdna project people initiate my data to go to Yfull or is that my decision only ( I know I pay yfull at the end ). or ?
    Only you, or someone to whom you have given your password, can access your BAM file. Project administrators cannot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    I have purchased a Big Y ( ready in early December )..............I was wondering if the ftdna project people initiate my data to go to Yfull or is that my decision only ( I know I pay yfull at the end ). or ?


    On a side note:
    I recently discovered that the person in the link below sits next to me in a group of only 3 people in the ftdna project
    http://leefamily.biz/my-dna/

    we share very similar markers ( maybe we are over 1000 years apart )
    His ancestors are part of the Drakes of Plymouth and also the Jamison family ( which was noted in past Faux papers as Vikings from Iceland IIRC )
    I received my big y results....... I am z19945.......same as a French person.
    We seem to have the same Ancestor from about, 100bc to 100ad

    Ft DNA did the results in about 3 weeks......is that too quick?


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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