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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    I received my big y results....... I am z19945.......same as a French person.
    We seem to have the same Ancestor from about, 100bc to 100ad

    Ft DNA did the results in about 3 weeks......is that too quick?
    I also match a puert rican which might mean from Spain.
    I have very poor Iberian numbers both from ftdna my origins and every other testing program.
    I have more French/German/alpine at 47percent than ant south European number.
    I can only think that this Puerto Rican must be southern French or even Genoese than Spanish.
    Also as my t marker is rarely found in southern Spain I see an issue with this prican ancestry


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+ )

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    I also match a puert rican which might mean from Spain.
    I have very poor Iberian numbers both from ftdna my origins and every other testing program.
    I have more French/German/alpine at 47percent than ant south European number.
    I can only think that this Puerto Rican must be southern French or even Genoese than Spanish.
    Also as my t marker is rarely found in southern Spain I see an issue with this prican ancestry
    Vettor, dont worry that is not too quick they did mine in 5 weeks, transfer your results to Yfull, they will place you in your proper line, Y-Dna only takes up 2% of your dna, so even if you match a Puerto Rican (he would be Spanish origin) it doesnt really reflect your autosomal only 2%, do you have Southern European or Asia Minor? You 3 could have shared an ancestor living in the Mediterranean around that time frame 100 AD- 100BC like the TMRCA suggests his line ended up in Spain and you and the French match ended up in central Europe, yours went to Northern Italy and the other to France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    I received my big y results....... I am z19945.......same as a French person.
    We seem to have the same Ancestor from about, 100bc to 100ad

    Ft DNA did the results in about 3 weeks......is that too quick?
    Have you and the French person sent your BAM file to YFull to have it analyzed? They might find more or less SNPs in common that FTDNA was not able to find if both of you do it. The FTDNA site does an extremely poor job in the matching and determining which novel SNPs downstream of a specific SNP are really shared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmandoR1b View Post
    Have you and the French person sent your BAM file to YFull to have it analyzed? They might find more or less SNPs in common that FTDNA was not able to find if both of you do it. The FTDNA site does an extremely poor job in the matching and determining which novel SNPs downstream of a specific SNP are really shared.
    I have requested my Bam from Ftdna today...............the french person ...Francois Bernot ~17th century has already done his YFULL

    Gareth from T project basically said this to me via email

    I am writing to both of you to let you know that you have a shared SNP - Z19945 (8397337 C to T) - which is not (yet) shared by anyone else in the Haplogroup T Project.The two Scottish-Irish members who are in your matches lists do not appear to share this SNP. Their branch T-Y17493 is a separate branch of T-CTS8662.

    As this is your only shared SNP below CTS8862 it doesn't make you close relatives - your common ancestor probably lived around 100 BC - 100 AD. I have put you together in a new project group Gamma-1.1-D but it may be that as more T-Z19945 lines the group will be split.

    I expect your designation will be updated when the next version of the tree is released.


    Bernot is YF07168 on YFull?


    Note: CTS8862 in ftdna is equal to yFull CTS8489
    Last edited by vettor; 10-26-2016 at 08:19 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    I have requested my Bam from Ftdna today...............the french person ...Francois Bernot ~17th century has already done his YFULL

    Gareth from T project basically said this to me via email

    I am writing to both of you to let you know that you have a shared SNP - Z19945 (8397337 C to T) - which is not (yet) shared by anyone else in the Haplogroup T Project.The two Scottish-Irish members who are in your matches lists do not appear to share this SNP. Their branch T-Y17493 is a separate branch of T-CTS8662.

    As this is your only shared SNP below CTS8862 it doesn't make you close relatives - your common ancestor probably lived around 100 BC - 100 AD. I have put you together in a new project group Gamma-1.1-D but it may be that as more T-Z19945 lines the group will be split.

    I expect your designation will be updated when the next version of the tree is released.


    Bernot is YF07168 on YFull?


    Note: CTS8862 in ftdna is equal to yFull CTS8489
    Vettor, YFull has updated its tree and Z19945 has been added (the only new branch for T this time). The age estimate is 2,600 years before present i.e. 400 BC. The ages of CTS8862 and CTS54 have been pushed back in time by the results for YF07168.
    Note that YFull show CTS1848 as equivalent to Z19945. You are negative for this SNP but it is recurrent and possibly unreliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarethH View Post
    Vettor, YFull has updated its tree and Z19945 has been added (the only new branch for T this time). The age estimate is 2,600 years before present i.e. 400 BC. The ages of CTS8862 and CTS54 have been pushed back in time by the results for YF07168.
    Note that YFull show CTS1848 as equivalent to Z19945. You are negative for this SNP but it is recurrent and possibly unreliable.
    Thanks
    YF07168 wrote to me yesterday and stated
    he is from - the ancient region of Thiérage, which in those days was partly in France (County of Vermandois) and partly in the Spanish Netherlands (County of Hainaut)

    he also stated he is positive for CTS1848 ................I know you said this SNP is unreliable, but could this SNP be the initial split between myself and Ed?


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    My yfull data is currently being analysed , yet since it started 4 days ago, the completion date is being put back every day .......so, it was to be completed on the 12 December, then went to 18th , then 20th and now 21st ........is this normal ?

    also stated is that my STR will be complete in July 2017 ...........7 months time!


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    My yfull tests are being put further back .
    I currently sit under T-CTS8489

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    I just got my results for Yfull

    I have a question

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    • Best qual (20)
    • Acceptable qual (8)
    Ambiguous qual (20)
    Low qual (0)
    One reading! (0)
    • INDELs (1)


    What does INDEL represent in the Novel SNP section?


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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    I just got my results for Yfull

    I have a question

    Novel SNPs (49)

    • Best qual (20)
    • Acceptable qual (8)
    Ambiguous qual (20)
    Low qual (0)
    One reading! (0)
    • INDELs (1)


    What does INDEL represent in the Novel SNP section?
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