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    Oracle-4 Results Comparison From MDLP, Eurogenes, Dodecad and HarappaWorld

    I think it would be interesting to compare our Oracle-4 results from the various ADMIXTURE analysis at GEDmatch. Personally for me the Oracle-4 tool seems to be a really good one and pretty much nails or comes pretty close to nailing my ancestral lines very well when looking at them as a 4 way mix. I have it set at Pct. Calc. Option 2. I think this tool is probably quite good for pretty much everyone. Here are my own results below.

    MDLP World-22:

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 British + Finnish-South + Greek_Center + Orcadian @ 1.597
    2 British + British + Finnish-South + Greek_Center @ 1.683
    3 Finnish-South + Greek_Center + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.716
    4 CEU + Finnish-South + Greek_Center + Orcadian @ 1.741
    5 British + Finnish-South + Greek_East + Orcadian @ 1.743
    6 Finnish-South + Greek_East + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.753
    7 British + Finnish-South + Italian-Center + Welsh @ 1.760
    8 British + Finnish + Italian-South + Norwegian_V @ 1.771
    9 British + Finnish-South + Italian-South + Welsh @ 1.786
    10 British + British + Finnish-South + Italian-Center @ 1.798
    11 British + Finnish-South + Italian-Center + Orcadian @ 1.802
    12 Finnish-South + Italian-South + Orcadian + Welsh @ 1.823
    13 British + Finnish + Italian-Center + Norwegian_V @ 1.832
    14 British + CEU + Finnish-South + Greek_Center @ 1.833
    15 CEU + Finnish-South + Italian-Center + Orcadian @ 1.837
    16 Finnish-South + Italian-Center + Orcadian + Welsh @ 1.842
    17 British + CEU + Finnish-South + Italian-Center @ 1.845
    18 Finnish + Italian-South + Norwegian_V + Orcadian @ 1.856
    19 Finnish-South + French + Greek_North + Orcadian @ 1.871
    20 CEU + Finnish + Italian-South + Norwegian_V @ 1.891


    Eurogenes Jtest:

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 DK + DK + East_Finnish + GR @ 4.464
    2 DK + DK + East_Russian + GR @ 4.618
    3 DK + East_Finnish + GR + NO @ 4.746
    4 DK + DK + GR + North_Russian @ 4.758
    5 DK + DK + East_Russian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.797
    6 DK + DK + North_Russian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.875
    7 DK + DK + East_Finnish + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.892
    8 DK + East_Russian + GR + NO @ 4.906
    9 DK + East_Finnish + English + GR @ 4.918
    10 DK + East_Finnish + GR + NL @ 4.939
    11 DK + DK + Komi + Tuscan @ 4.961
    12 DK + Komi + Tuscan + West_&_Central_German @ 4.975
    13 DK + East_Russian + NO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.015
    14 DK + English + GR + North_Russian @ 5.028
    15 DK + DK + Erzya + GR @ 5.035
    16 DK + East_Finnish + Serbian + Tuscan @ 5.040
    17 DK + DK + GR + South_Finnish @ 5.054
    18 DK + East_Finnish + GR + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.056
    19 East_Finnish + English + GR + NO @ 5.061
    20 DK + DK + Erzya + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.061


    Eurogenes EUtest:

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 DK + DK + East_Finnish + GR @ 3.990
    2 DK + DK + East_Russian + GR @ 4.255
    3 DK + East_Finnish + GR + NO @ 4.260
    4 DK + DK + East_Russian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.376
    5 DK + DK + GR + North_Russian @ 4.432
    6 DK + East_Finnish + GR + NL @ 4.445
    7 DK + East_Finnish + English + GR @ 4.461
    8 DK + DK + East_Finnish + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.489
    9 DK + DK + North_Russian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.500
    10 DK + East_Russian + GR + NO @ 4.536
    11 DK + East_Russian + NO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.563
    12 East_Finnish + English + GR + NO @ 4.566
    13 DK + DK + GR + South_Finnish @ 4.569
    14 DK + East_Finnish + GR + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.580
    15 DK + DK + GR + Komi @ 4.581
    16 DK + DK + Komi + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.602
    17 DK + GR + North_Swedish + South_Finnish @ 4.609
    18 DK + East_Finnish + GR + West_&_Central_German @ 4.610
    19 East_Finnish + GR + NL + NO @ 4.615
    20 DK + DK + Erzya + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.632


    Dodecad K12b:

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Argyll + Dutch + Russian + S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.618
    2 Argyll + Argyll + Ashkenazy_Jews + Russian @ 1.645
    3 Argyll + Argyll + Russian + S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.681
    4 Dutch + Orkney + Russian + S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.748
    5 Argyll + Ashkenazy_Jews + Orcadian + Russian @ 1.751
    6 Cypriots + FIN30 + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.755
    7 Argyll + Orkney + Russian + S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.763
    8 Argyll + Ashkenazy_Jews + Orkney + Russian @ 1.767
    9 Mordovians + Orkney + Orkney + S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.774
    10 Argyll + Argyll + Ashkenazi + Russian @ 1.778
    11 Argyll + Cypriots + FIN30 + Orcadian @ 1.780
    12 Argyll + Ashkenazy_Jews + Irish + Russian @ 1.786
    13 Cypriots + FIN30 + Irish + Orcadian @ 1.788
    14 Cypriots + FIN30 + Orcadian + Orkney @ 1.789
    15 Argyll + Mordovians + Orkney + S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.801
    16 Mixed_Germanic + Orkney + Russian + S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.802
    17 Cypriots + FIN30 + Irish + Orkney @ 1.802
    18 Argyll + Cypriots + FIN30 + Irish @ 1.805
    19 Argyll + CEU30 + Russian + S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.810
    20 Dutch + Orcadian + Russian + S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.814


    HarappaWorld:


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 ashkenazy-jew + finnish + orcadian + utahn-white @ 1.869
    2 ashkenazy-jew + finnish + orcadian + utahn-white @ 1.967
    3 ashkenazy-jew + british + finnish + utahn-white @ 1.978
    4 lithuanian + morocco-jew + orcadian + russian @ 1.988
    5 ashkenazy-jew + british + finnish + orcadian @ 2.046
    6 ashkenazy-jew + british + finnish + utahn-white @ 2.055
    7 ashkenazy-jew + british + british + finnish @ 2.087
    8 ashkenazy-jew + finnish + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 2.125
    9 ashkenazy-jew + finnish + n-european + orcadian @ 2.126
    10 ashkenazy-jew + finnish + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 2.172
    11 lithuanian + mordovian + morocco-jew + orcadian @ 2.220
    12 british + lithuanian + morocco-jew + russian @ 2.223
    13 ashkenazy-jew + british + finnish + n-european @ 2.233
    14 ashkenazy-jew + finnish + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 2.257
    15 belorussian + lithuanian + morocco-jew + orcadian @ 2.281
    16 lithuanian + orcadian + russian + sephardic-jew @ 2.303
    17 british + lithuanian + lithuanian + morocco-jew @ 2.316
    18 ashkenazy-jew + finnish + orcadian + orcadian @ 2.322
    19 ashkenazi + british + finnish + utahn-white @ 2.326
    20 ashkenazi + finnish + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 2.385



    It would be interesting to compare with and see the results of other people here.

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    Well, the first one is shockingly bad. Eurogenes probably yields the closest results. I think Oracle-X is actually better for me than Oracle-4. What I think I should look like is Scottish-English-English-Mixed Germanic or something like that.....

    MDLP World 22
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 German + German_V + Kosovar + Swedish_V @ 1.546
    2 French + Gagauz + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.557
    3 Estonian + Kosovar + Kosovar + Swedish_V @ 1.586
    4 Bosnian + Kosovar + Swedish + Swedish_V @ 1.608
    5 German + German_V + Italian-North + Swedish @ 1.639
    6 Gagauz + German-South + Norwegian_V + Swedish @ 1.647
    7 German + German_V + Kosovar + Swedish @ 1.678
    8 CEU + Gagauz + German-South + Swedish_V @ 1.680
    9 German-South + German_V + Macedonian + Norwegian_V @ 1.688
    10 German + German + Kosovar + Norwegian_V @ 1.697
    11 British + Greek_North + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.727
    12 British + German-South + Kosovar + Russian_North @ 1.738
    13 German + German-South + Italian_North + Swedish @ 1.744
    14 British + Gagauz + German-South + Swedish_V @ 1.749
    15 Bulgarian + French + German + Swedish @ 1.761
    16 French + German + Macedonian + Norwegian_V @ 1.762
    17 Macedonian + Provancestralal + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.764
    18 Estonian + Italian_North + Kosovar + Norwegian_V @ 1.766
    19 CEU_V + French + Kosovar + Russian_North @ 1.767
    20 German-South + German-South + Macedonian + Swedish_V @ 1.773

    Eurogenes Jtest:
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 English + French_Basque + PL + Scottish @ 3.020
    2 French_Basque + Orcadian + PL + Scottish @ 3.171
    3 French_Basque + PL + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.185
    4 French_Basque + HU + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.247
    5 Cornish + French_Basque + PL + Scottish @ 3.263
    6 French_Basque + Scottish + Scottish + UA @ 3.304
    7 French_Basque + IE + PL + Scottish @ 3.308
    8 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + PL @ 3.311
    9 English + French_Basque + Orcadian + PL @ 3.333
    10 English + French_Basque + IE + PL @ 3.355
    11 French_Basque + HU + NO + Scottish @ 3.379
    12 French_Basque + NL + PL + Scottish @ 3.406
    13 French_Basque + IE + Orcadian + PL @ 3.408
    14 AT + French_Basque + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.413
    15 English + French_Basque + Scottish + UA @ 3.417
    16 French_Basque + Orcadian + Scottish + UA @ 3.441
    17 Cornish + French_Basque + Orcadian + PL @ 3.443
    18 French_Basque + PL + Scottish + West_&_Central_German @ 3.506
    19 Cornish + French_Basque + IE + PL @ 3.529
    20 French_Basque + IE + Scottish + UA @ 3.540

    Eurogenes EUtest
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 English + French_Basque + PL + Scottish @ 3.073
    2 French_Basque + HU + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.081
    3 French_Basque + Orcadian + PL + Scottish @ 3.117
    4 French_Basque + PL + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.161
    5 French_Basque + IE + PL + Scottish @ 3.166
    6 French_Basque + Scottish + Scottish + UA @ 3.218
    7 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + PL @ 3.235
    8 French_Basque + IE + Orcadian + PL @ 3.236
    9 French_Basque + HU + NO + Scottish @ 3.238
    10 Cornish + French_Basque + PL + Scottish @ 3.276
    11 French_Basque + IE + IE + PL @ 3.294
    12 English + French_Basque + IE + PL @ 3.294
    13 French_Basque + Orcadian + Scottish + UA @ 3.331
    14 AT + French_Basque + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.333
    15 French_Basque + IE + Scottish + UA @ 3.339
    16 English + French_Basque + Orcadian + PL @ 3.373
    17 French_Basque + NL + PL + Scottish @ 3.396
    18 English + French_Basque + Scottish + UA @ 3.409
    19 Cornish + French_Basque + IE + PL @ 3.435
    20 Cornish + French_Basque + Orcadian + PL @ 3.443

    Dodecad K12b:
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 British + Dutch + N_Italian + Swedish @ 0.757
    2 Dutch + Irish + N_Italian + Swedish @ 0.761
    3 Dutch + N_Italian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 0.800
    4 Dutch + North_Italian + Orkney + Swedish @ 0.807
    5 Argyll + Dutch + North_Italian + Swedish @ 0.840
    6 British_Isles + Dutch + N_Italian + Swedish @ 0.871
    7 Dutch + N_Italian + Orkney + Swedish @ 0.876
    8 Mixed_Germanic + North_Italian + Orkney + Swedish @ 0.880
    9 Orkney + Orkney + Swedish + TSI30 @ 0.897
    10 Dutch + North_Italian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 0.936
    11 English + English + N_Italian + Swedish @ 0.943
    12 Dutch + English + N_Italian + Swedish @ 0.947
    13 CEU30 + English + N_Italian + Swedish @ 0.948
    14 Mixed_Germanic + N_Italian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 0.958
    15 CEU30 + CEU30 + N_Italian + Swedish @ 0.958
    16 Mixed_Germanic + N_Italian + Orkney + Swedish @ 0.963
    17 British + Norwegian + Norwegian + TSI30 @ 0.968
    18 Cornwall + Norwegian + Norwegian + TSI30 @ 0.969
    19 Irish + Mixed_Germanic + N_Italian + Swedish @ 0.970
    20 Cornwall + Dutch + N_Italian + Swedish @ 0.979

    Harrappa World
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 french + french + orcadian + utahn-white @ 1.142
    2 italian + orcadian + orcadian + orcadian @ 1.161
    3 n-european + orcadian + spaniard + utahn-white @ 1.234
    4 french + french + n-european + orcadian @ 1.257
    5 spaniard + utahn-white + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 1.311
    6 orcadian + spaniard + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 1.344
    7 n-european + n-european + orcadian + spaniard @ 1.348
    8 spaniard + utahn-white + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 1.436
    9 french + french + orcadian + utahn-white @ 1.449
    10 n-european + orcadian + spaniard + utahn-white @ 1.471
    11 n-european + n-european + orcadian + spaniard @ 1.536
    12 orcadian + orcadian + slovenian + spaniard @ 1.555
    13 french + french + orcadian + orcadian @ 1.562
    14 n-european + orcadian + spaniard + utahn-white @ 1.568
    15 british + french + french + orcadian @ 1.569
    16 orcadian + spaniard + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 1.596
    17 british + french + french + utahn-white @ 1.604
    18 british + spaniard + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 1.605
    19 n-european + spaniard + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 1.611
    20 spaniard + utahn-white + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 1.624
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    MDLP World-22

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 German-North + Greek_Azov + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.926
    2 Greek_Azov + Orcadian + Swedish + Welsh @ 1.931
    3 British + Greek_Azov + Swedish + Welsh @ 1.938
    4 German + Greek_Azov + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.954
    5 CEU + German-North + Greek_Azov + Orcadian @ 2.011
    6 CEU + Greek_Azov + Swedish + Welsh @ 2.025
    7 British + German-North + Greek_Azov + Orcadian @ 2.032
    8 CEU + Greek_Azov + Orcadian + Swedish @ 2.053
    9 British + Greek_Azov + Orcadian + Swedish @ 2.056
    10 German-North + Greek_Azov + Orcadian + Welsh @ 2.099
    11 British + British + Greek_Azov + Swedish @ 2.130
    12 British + CEU + Greek_Azov + Swedish @ 2.138
    13 Greek_Azov + Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 2.144
    14 CEU_V + Greek_Azov + Orcadian + Swedish @ 2.166
    15 CEU_V + Greek_Azov + Orcadian + Welsh @ 2.193
    16 British + German + Greek_Azov + Orcadian @ 2.211
    17 CEU + CEU + Greek_Azov + Swedish @ 2.229
    18 Greek_Azov + Swedish + Welsh + Welsh @ 2.231
    19 British + British + Greek_Azov + Swedish_V @ 2.240
    20 Basque + Greek_Azov + Russian_North + Welsh @ 2.242

    Eurogenes Jtest

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 IE + IE + NO + Tuscan @ 3.236
    2 IE + IE + NL + North_Italian @ 3.317
    3 IE + IE + North_Italian + West_&_Central_German @ 3.327
    4 IE + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.334
    5 IE + IE + NO + North_Italian @ 3.360
    6 IE + NO + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 3.399
    7 IE + IE + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 3.400
    8 IE + NL + North_Italian + Orcadian @ 3.404
    9 IE + NO + Scottish + Tuscan @ 3.411
    10 IE + Orcadian + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 3.416
    11 IE + North_Italian + Orcadian + West_&_Central_German @ 3.441
    12 IE + IE + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.441
    13 IE + IE + IE + Tuscan @ 3.446
    14 DK + IE + IE + North_Italian @ 3.464
    15 IE + NO + North_Italian + Orcadian @ 3.492
    16 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 3.493
    17 IE + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.508
    18 IE + North_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.508
    19 IE + IE + North_Italian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.514
    20 IE + IE + North_Italian + Orcadian @ 3.518

    Eurogenes Eutest

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 IE + IE + NO + Tuscan @ 2.981
    2 IE + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.088
    3 IE + IE + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.115
    4 IE + IE + NO + North_Italian @ 3.150
    5 IE + IE + North_Italian + West_&_Central_German @ 3.183
    6 IE + IE + NL + North_Italian @ 3.206
    7 IE + NO + Scottish + Tuscan @ 3.210
    8 IE + NO + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 3.232
    9 IE + IE + IE + Tuscan @ 3.257
    10 IE + IE + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 3.296
    11 IE + IE + North_Italian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.310
    12 IE + North_Swedish + Scottish + Tuscan @ 3.311
    13 IE + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.316
    14 DK + IE + IE + North_Italian @ 3.326
    15 IE + NO + North_Italian + Orcadian @ 3.344
    16 IE + NL + North_Italian + Orcadian @ 3.366
    17 IE + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.375
    18 IE + North_Italian + Orcadian + West_&_Central_German @ 3.381
    19 IE + IE + North_Italian + Orcadian @ 3.386
    20 IE + Orcadian + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 3.391

    Dodecad K12b

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Argyll + Cornwall + Hungarians + O_Italian @ 1.627
    2 Argyll + Argyll + Hungarians + Tuscan @ 1.650
    3 Argyll + British + Hungarians + O_Italian @ 1.702
    4 Argyll + Dutch + Dutch + Greek @ 1.737
    5 Argyll + German + Greek + Irish @ 1.751
    6 Argyll + Argyll + German + Greek @ 1.755
    7 Argyll + Argyll + Hungarians + TSI30 @ 1.764
    8 Argyll + German + Greek + Orcadian @ 1.772
    9 Argyll + German + Mixed_Germanic + O_Italian @ 1.781
    10 Argyll + Dutch + Greek + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.783
    11 Dutch + Greek + Mixed_Germanic + Orkney @ 1.786
    12 Argyll + Argyll + Hungarians + O_Italian @ 1.816
    13 English + German + Mixed_Germanic + O_Italian @ 1.818
    14 CEU30 + German + Mixed_Germanic + O_Italian @ 1.818
    15 Argyll + Hungarians + Irish + O_Italian @ 1.822
    16 Argyll + Argyll + C_Italian + Hungarians @ 1.826
    17 Cornwall + Hungarians + O_Italian + Orcadian @ 1.826
    18 German + Kent + Mixed_Germanic + O_Italian @ 1.834
    19 Cornwall + Hungarians + Irish + O_Italian @ 1.839
    20 Argyll + British + German + Greek @ 1.843

    HarappaWorld

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 ashkenazi + orcadian + orcadian + utahn-white @ 2.656
    2 ashkenazi + orcadian + orcadian + orcadian @ 2.700
    3 ashkenazi + orcadian + orcadian + utahn-white @ 2.779
    4 ashkenazi + british + orcadian + orcadian @ 2.784
    5 ashkenazi + n-european + orcadian + orcadian @ 2.785
    6 ashkenazi + british + orcadian + utahn-white @ 2.961
    7 ashkenazy-jew + orcadian + orcadian + orcadian @ 2.971
    8 ashkenazy-jew + orcadian + orcadian + utahn-white @ 2.976
    9 hungarian + orcadian + orcadian + tuscan @ 3.003
    10 hungarian + orcadian + orcadian + tuscan @ 3.038
    11 french + orcadian + romanian + utahn-white @ 3.063
    12 hungarian + orcadian + orcadian + tuscan @ 3.065
    13 british + bulgarian + orcadian + romany @ 3.070
    14 bulgarian + orcadian + orcadian + romany @ 3.071
    15 french + orcadian + romanian + utahn-white @ 3.075
    16 british + orcadian + romanian + romany @ 3.081
    17 orcadian + orcadian + slovenian + tuscan @ 3.089
    18 ashkenazi + orcadian + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 3.094
    19 ashkenazy-jew + n-european + orcadian + orcadian @ 3.094
    20 ashkenazi + british + british + orcadian @ 3.096

    The tests that focus completely on Europe are not entirely appropriate for me, even though I'm close to 98% Euro. The problem seems to be that even my tiny 2% Native American -- which shows up quite consistently across a variety of calculators -- seems to muck things up a bit. At FTDNA, for example, I apparently don't have enough NA ancestry to trigger a second continent. But that means that the algorithm then has to "figure out" what to do with the NA SNPs. I think its solution is to "push" at least some of my ancestry as far to the east as it can without leaving Europe. Or at least that seems to be what allows the best fit.

    So, for example, I get "Russian and Finnish" as two of my four populations. I'm actually not aware of any Russian or Finnish ancestry, or even any other European ancestry from that far to the east. Nor do I have any Tuscan or Italian ancestry that I know of, but these might at least be closer approximations to ancestries I do have. However, the most important point is that even if were to have Finnish, Russian, or Tuscan ancestry, they would very much be in the minority.

    On paper, and it seems pretty solid though not 100%, I'm about half German. This is mostly southern and southwestern, not northern. I'm also about a quarter British, most of which is Scottish and Scots-Irish. I'm an eighth Spanish, and though it's a smaller component than the first two, it's also somewhat more recent. (My maternal grandmother is half Spanish.) Presumably that means that it's likely to be less "chopped up", possibly even covering most of a few chromosomes. My German and British ancestors were intermarrying so many generations ago that I have ancestors with German names who are actually mostly Scottish (and vice versa). The remainder of my ancestry includes Dutch, Swiss, French, Irish, and Native American (possibly Chitimacha).

    My brother also has Population Finder results, although his are based on his 23andMe data file. His results are similar to mine, although he has a more colorful map. Whereas mine's a uniform dark blue, his map at least has some orange. Population Finder pronounces him 72.63% Western European -- French, Spanish 72.63% -- 9.04%; and 27.27% generic "European" -- Finnish, Russian -- again, 9.04%. For me it was just "100% European, 0.01%", with the same populations except for Tuscan instead of French.

    Our sister's results were a little more interesting. In her case, the algorithm seems to have found enough of her ancestry to be "non-European" to assign a second continent. But it didn't assign America, but Asia. Population Finder says that she's 97.43% Western European (all French), 0.26%; and 2.57% East Asian, 0.26%. For "East Asian", it lists these populations: Han, Japanese, Lahu, Malay, Mongolian, Yakut, Cambodian. Ancestry Composition actually shows almost exactly the same "East Asian and Native American" -- 2.5%. Only it correctly identifies over 2% of this as "Native American", and all but 0.1% of the rest of it as "nonspecific East Asian and Native American". There's a tiny "chunk" identified as "East Asian", but it's completely surrounded by "Native American" segments.

    Sorry to stray a bit from just the Oracle-4 results, but it's fascinating seeing how much variation there can be -- probably more for some of us than for others. (Especially some of us for whom "4 populations" is just getting warmed up.)
    Last edited by geebee; 03-08-2013 at 06:01 PM.
    Besides British-German-Catalan, ancestry includes smaller amounts of French, Irish, Swiss, Choctaw & another NA tribe, possibly Catawba. Avatar picture is: my father, his father, & his father's father; baby is my eldest brother.

    GB

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  7. #4
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    H2a2b [RSRS]

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    Eurogenes is probably the best fit for me. Here are my results....

    MDLP World-22:

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 German + German-North + Kosovar + Norwegian_V @ 2.203
    2 German + Kosovar + Norwegian_V + Swedish @ 2.208
    3 German-North + German-North + Kosovar + Norwegian_V @ 2.308
    4 British + Kosovar + Norwegian_V + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.315
    5 British + British + Gagauz + Swedish @ 2.316
    6 British + CEU + Gagauz + Swedish @ 2.333
    7 CEU + Kosovar + Norwegian_V + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.348
    8 German_V + Kosovar + Swedish + Swedish_V @ 2.348
    9 German_V + Kosovar + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.370
    10 CEU + German + Kosovar + Swedish_V @ 2.400
    11 British + German_V + Norwegian_V + Romania @ 2.419
    12 German-North + Kosovar + Norwegian_V + Swedish @ 2.426
    13 CEU + CEU + Gagauz + Swedish @ 2.427
    14 British + German + Kosovar + Swedish_V @ 2.428
    15 British + British + Gagauz + Swedish_V @ 2.432
    16 German + Kosovar + Swedish_V + Welsh @ 2.434
    17 Kosovar + Norwegian_V + Orcadian + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.451
    18 German-North + German_V + Kosovar + Swedish_V @ 2.475
    19 British + Gagauz + Orcadian + Swedish @ 2.478
    20 CEU + Gagauz + Orcadian + Swedish @ 2.485

    Eurogenes Jtest:

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 English + English + English + NL @ 3.123
    2 English + English + NL + NL @ 3.211
    3 English + English + English + English @ 3.218
    4 English + English + IE + NL @ 3.228
    5 English + English + NL + Orcadian @ 3.309
    6 English + IE + NL + NL @ 3.309
    7 English + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 3.309
    8 English + English + English + IE @ 3.324
    9 English + English + IE + West_&_Central_German @ 3.350
    10 English + English + English + Orcadian @ 3.380
    11 English + NL + NL + Orcadian @ 3.410
    12 Cornish + English + English + NL @ 3.444
    13 English + English + Orcadian + West_&_Central_German @ 3.455
    14 English + NL + NL + NL @ 3.467
    15 English + English + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 3.470
    16 DK + English + English + English @ 3.470
    17 English + English + English + NO @ 3.481
    18 DK + English + English + NL @ 3.481
    19 English + IE + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 3.505
    20 Cornish + English + English + English @ 3.506

    Eurogenes EUtest:

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 English + English + English + NL @ 3.091
    2 English + English + IE + NL @ 3.129
    3 English + English + NL + NL @ 3.139
    4 English + IE + NL + NL @ 3.169
    5 English + English + English + English @ 3.218
    6 English + English + IE + West_&_Central_German @ 3.221
    7 English + English + NL + Orcadian @ 3.254
    8 English + English + English + IE @ 3.264
    9 English + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 3.264
    10 English + NL + NL + Orcadian @ 3.320
    11 English + IE + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 3.332
    12 English + English + English + Orcadian @ 3.356
    13 English + NL + NL + NL @ 3.357
    14 IE + NL + NL + NL @ 3.376
    15 English + English + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 3.381
    16 English + English + Orcadian + West_&_Central_German @ 3.381
    17 Cornish + English + English + NL @ 3.395
    18 English + English + English + NO @ 3.410
    19 DK + English + English + NL @ 3.423
    20 DK + English + English + English @ 3.439

    Dodecad K12b:

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French + German + Kent + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.462
    2 CEU30 + French + German + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.495
    3 English + French + German + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.520
    4 Cornwall + French + German + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.595
    5 French + German + Kent + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.598
    6 CEU30 + French + German + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.653
    7 English + French + German + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.675
    8 French + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.679
    9 Cornwall + French + German + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.699
    10 Dutch + French + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.735
    11 British_Isles + French + German + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.736
    12 British + French + German + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.746
    13 French + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.746
    14 Cornwall + Cornwall + French + Hungarians @ 1.753
    15 Dutch + French + German + Kent @ 1.762
    16 French + German + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.779
    17 Argyll + Cornwall + French + Hungarians @ 1.792
    18 Cornwall + Cornwall + French + Hungarians @ 1.804
    19 CEU30 + Cornwall + French + Hungarians @ 1.810
    20 Cornwall + English + French + Hungarians @ 1.819

    HarappaWorld

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 basque + british + lithuanian + serbian @ 1.703
    2 basque + lithuanian + serbian + utahn-white @ 1.752
    3 british + lithuanian + serbian + spain-basc @ 1.903
    4 basque + lithuanian + serbian + utahn-white @ 2.006
    5 lithuanian + serbian + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.022
    6 basque + lithuanian + orcadian + serbian @ 2.040
    7 british + british + french + slovenian @ 2.066
    8 basque + belorussian + orcadian + serbian @ 2.086
    9 british + french + slovenian + utahn-white @ 2.094
    10 british + french + hungarian + utahn-white @ 2.105
    11 british + french + hungarian + utahn-white @ 2.107
    12 british + british + french + hungarian @ 2.121
    13 french + hungarian + orcadian + utahn-white @ 2.223
    14 french + hungarian + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 2.238
    15 belorussian + orcadian + serbian + spain-basc @ 2.249
    16 french + hungarian + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 2.259
    17 british + french + slovenian + utahn-white @ 2.265
    18 french + slovenian + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 2.265
    19 lithuanian + orcadian + serbian + spain-basc @ 2.267
    20 british + french + hungarian + n-european @ 2.310

    Clinton P
    Last edited by Clinton P; 03-08-2013 at 07:32 PM. Reason: HarappaWorld added
    FullGenomes ID:....FG1048A
    YFull ID :...............YF01371 & YF02740

    y-DNA
    Hg: R-U106 > Z2265 > BY30097 > FGC3861 > Z8053 > S1855 > S1859 > FGC3883........
    Shorthand: R-FGC3883


    mt-DNA
    Hg: H2a2b
    Extra Mutations: 309.1'C', 315.1'C', A16235'G', T16357'C', C16519'T'.

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    MLDP World 22-

    1 British_derived + German_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 2.192497
    2 CEU_derived + German_V_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Swedish_derived @ 2.252666
    3 British_derived + German_V_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Swedish_V_derived @ 2.265726
    4 CEU_derived + German_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Welsh_derived @ 2.278979
    5 British_derived + German_V_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Swedish_derived @ 2.287452
    6 CEU_V_derived + German_V_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 2.295037
    7 CEU_derived + German_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 2.299039
    8 German_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Norwegian_V_derived + Welsh_derived @ 2.309612
    9 CEU_derived + German-North_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 2.316746
    10 German_V_derived + German_V_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 2.328170
    11 CEU_derived + German_V_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Swedish_V_derived @ 2.337860
    12 British_derived + German_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Welsh_derived @ 2.345126
    13 British_derived + German-North_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 2.349918
    14 British_derived + German_V_derived + German_V_derived + Mordovian_derived @ 2.374382
    15 German_V_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Norwegian_V_derived + Welsh_derived @ 2.378027
    16 German-North_derived + German_V_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 2.383503
    17 German_V_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Norwegian_V_derived + Swedish_derived @ 2.404039
    18 British_derived + German_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Swedish_derived @ 2.419900
    19 German_V_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Orcadian_derived + Swedish_derived @ 2.439723
    20 German-North_derived + Latvian_V_derived + Norwegian_V_derived + Welsh_derived @ 2.446803

    Eurogenes EUTest V2 k15-

    1 Ukrainian_Lviv + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.317771
    2 Hungarian + Swedish + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Norwegian @ 3.452305
    3 Hungarian + Swedish + Ukrainian + West_Norwegian @ 3.464911
    4 Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.493808
    5 Hungarian + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.536721
    6 Hungarian + Ukrainian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.579174
    7 Hungarian + Norwegian + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Norwegian @ 3.676624
    8 Hungarian + Norwegian + Ukrainian + West_Norwegian @ 3.716327
    9 Moldavian + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.730388
    10 Estonian + Moldavian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.740688
    11 Hungarian + Swedish + Swedish + Ukrainian @ 3.753606
    12 Moldavian + Ukrainian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.755219
    13 Ukrainian + Ukrainian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.759194
    14 Norwegian + Ukrainian_Lviv + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Norwegian @ 3.762307
    15 Hungarian + Swedish + Swedish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.786824
    16 Hungarian + Norwegian + Swedish + Ukrainian @ 3.818210
    17 Hungarian + Norwegian + Swedish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.820414
    18 Swedish + Ukrainian_Lviv + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Norwegian @ 3.875891
    19 South_Polish + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.905919
    20 Norwegian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Norwegian @ 3.924060

    Dodecahedron k12b-

    Argyll_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.514724
    2 Argyll_1000Genomes + Argyll_1000Genomes + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Lithuanian_Dodecad @ 1.638446
    3 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev @ 1.651274
    4 Hungarians_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 1.664829
    5 Hungarians_Behar + Kent_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev @ 1.697134
    6 Argyll_1000Genomes + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Lithuanians_Behar @ 1.708160
    7 Argyll_1000Genomes + Argyll_1000Genomes + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Lithuanian_Dodecad @ 1.708169
    8 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Russian_B_Behar @ 1.719962
    9 Argyll_1000Genomes + Argyll_1000Genomes + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 1.751525
    10 Argyll_1000Genomes + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 1.752731
    11 German_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.759014
    12 Argyll_1000Genomes + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad + Lithuanian_Dodecad @ 1.761822
    13 German_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Russian_B_Behar @ 1.769889
    14 Hungarians_Behar + Kent_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 1.789933
    15 Argyll_1000Genomes + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 1.802526
    16 Orkney_1000Genomes + Orkney_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.805277
    17 CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 1.807317
    18 French_HGDP + German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev @ 1.812239
    19 French_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev @ 1.818042
    20 English_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev @ 1.820438

    Harappa World-

    1 orcadian_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + serbian_harappa + ukranian_yunusbayev @ 1.161834
    2 belorussian_behar + british_1000genomes + orcadian_hgdp + serbian_harappa @ 1.387877
    3 belorussian_behar + british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + serbian_harappa @ 1.436424
    4 french_hgdp + lithuanian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + serbian_harappa @ 1.498655
    5 british_1000genomes + orcadian_hgdp + serbian_harappa + ukranian_yunusbayev @ 1.533126
    6 belorussian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + serbian_harappa + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.538085
    7 belorussian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + romanian-a_behar @ 1.551640
    8 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + romanian-a_behar @ 1.582440
    9 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + bulgarian_yunusbayev + lithuanian_behar @ 1.614458
    10 british_1000genomes + bulgarian_yunusbayev + lithuanian_behar + orcadian_hgdp @ 1.642812
    11 hungarian_behar + ukranian_yunusbayev + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.657948
    12 british_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + romanian-a_behar + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.662231
    13 orcadian_hgdp + serbian_harappa + ukranian_yunusbayev + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.708309
    14 belorussian_behar + british_1000genomes + serbian_harappa + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.730034
    15 belorussian_behar + bulgarian_yunusbayev + orcadian_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp @ 1.735623
    16 bulgarian_yunusbayev + lithuanian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.736143
    17 british_1000genomes + hungarian_behar + ukranian_yunusbayev + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.762614
    18 belorussian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + serbian_harappa @ 1.781277
    19 lithuanian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + romanian-a_behar + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.781988
    20 hungarian_behar + ukranian_yunusbayev + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.794462

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    This was a really cool exercise for me! Thank you for the idea!

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    MDLP World-22:

     

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Gagauz_derived + Mozabite_derived + Mozabite_derived + Mozabite_derived @ 2.030716
    2 Bulgarian_derived + Mozabite_derived + Mozabite_derived + Mozabite_derived @ 2.166330
    3 Ashkenazim_V_derived + Jew-Ethiopia_derived + Mozabite_derived + Sardinian_derived @ 2.360578
    4 Ashkenazim_V_derived + Jew_Ethiopia_derived + Mozabite_derived + Sardinian_derived @ 2.413966
    5 Ashkenazim_V_derived + Jew-Ethiopia_derived + Moroccan_derived + Sardinian_derived @ 2.433067
    6 Ashkenazim_V_derived + Jew_Ethiopia_derived + Moroccan_derived + Sardinian_derived @ 2.467402
    7 Macedonian_derived + Mozabite_derived + Mozabite_derived + Mozabite_derived @ 2.521620
    8 Basque_derived + Bedouin_derived + Moroccan_derived + Moroccan_derived @ 2.561304
    9 Bulgarian_derived + Jew-Ethiopia_derived + Mozabite_derived + Otzi_derived @ 2.624050
    10 Gagauz_derived + Jew-Ethiopia_derived + Mozabite_derived + Otzi_derived @ 2.627065
    11 Italian_North_derived + Jew_Ethiopia_derived + Mozabite_derived + Otzi_derived @ 2.638663
    12 Italian_North_derived + Jew_Ethiopia_derived + Moroccan_derived + Otzi_derived @ 2.666793
    13 Bulgarian_derived + Moroccan_derived + Mozabite_derived + Mozabite_derived @ 2.693141
    14 Gagauz_derived + Moroccan_derived + Mozabite_derived + Mozabite_derived @ 2.724385
    15 Basque_derived + Bedouin_derived + Moroccan_derived + Mozabite_derived @ 2.761651
    16 Italian_North_derived + Jew-Ethiopia_derived + Mozabite_derived + Otzi_derived @ 2.794620
    17 Bulgarian_derived + Jew_Ethiopia_derived + Mozabite_derived + Otzi_derived @ 2.828025
    18 Italian_North_derived + Jew-Ethiopia_derived + Moroccan_derived + Otzi_derived @ 2.848244
    19 Egyptian_derived + Moroccan_derived + Mozabite_derived + Spaniard_derived @ 2.881742
    20 Ashkenazim_V_derived + Ethiopian_derived + Mozabite_derived + Sardinian_derived @ 2.902503


    Eurogenes Jtest:

     

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Algerian + Algerian + Moroccan + Moroccan @ 3.603691
    2 Algerian + Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan @ 4.123343
    3 Algerian + Moroccan + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.833926
    4 Algerian + Algerian + Algerian + Moroccan @ 4.846876
    5 Algerian + Algerian + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.905013
    6 AJ + Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.685925
    7 AJ + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.818523
    8 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.879523
    9 Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.901052
    10 Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan @ 5.970909
    11 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Tuscan @ 6.020968
    12 AJ + Algerian + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 6.090017
    13 Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 6.100814
    14 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian @ 6.205831
    15 Algerian + Algerian + Algerian + Mozabite_Berber @ 6.266472
    16 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.330816
    17 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + PT @ 6.435003
    18 AJ + Moroccan + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 6.585401
    19 GR + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 6.665764
    20 AJ + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 6.677334


    Eurogenes EUtest:

     

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Algerian + Algerian + Moroccan + Moroccan @ 2.284470
    2 Algerian + Algerian + Algerian + Moroccan @ 3.390172
    3 Algerian + Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan @ 3.625870
    4 Algerian + Algerian + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.068694
    5 Algerian + Moroccan + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.360813
    6 AJ + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.089873
    7 AJ + Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.205752
    8 Algerian + Algerian + Algerian + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.310544
    9 Bedouin + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.376442
    10 Bedouin + ES + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.435738
    11 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.484872
    12 AJ + Algerian + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.645748
    13 Algerian + Algerian + Algerian + Algerian @ 5.653853
    14 Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.749757
    15 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Tuscan @ 5.834280
    16 Bedouin + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + PT @ 5.865031
    17 Bedouin + ES + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.877573
    18 Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan @ 5.939651
    19 Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.969886
    20 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian @ 6.006405


    Dodecad K12b:

     

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++
    1 Algerian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar + Moroccans_Behar @ 3.503588
    2 Algerian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Moroccan_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar @ 3.587142
    3 Algerian_Dodecad + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar @ 3.677874
    4 Algerian_Dodecad + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Moroccan_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar @ 3.753133
    5 Algerian_Dodecad + Moroccan_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 3.882253
    6 Algerian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar + Moroccans_Behar @ 3.888651
    7 Algerian_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar + Moroccans_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 3.901638
    8 Algerian_Dodecad + Moroccan_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 3.902624
    9 Algerian_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar + Moroccans_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 3.904658
    10 Algerian_Dodecad + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Moroccans_Behar + Moroccans_Behar @ 3.987439
    11 Algerian_Dodecad + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Moroccan_Dodecad @ 4.006733
    12 Algerian_Dodecad + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar + Moroccans_Behar @ 4.054497
    13 Algerian_Dodecad + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Moroccan_Dodecad + Moroccan_Dodecad @ 4.087075
    14 Algerian_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar + Moroccans_Behar + Tuscan_HGDP @ 4.237486
    15 Algerian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Moroccan_Dodecad + Moroccan_Dodecad @ 4.288105
    16 Algerian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Moroccan_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar @ 4.318129
    17 Algerian_Dodecad + Algerian_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 4.324829
    18 Algerian_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar + Moroccans_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 4.345148
    19 Greek_Dodecad + Moroccan_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar + Moroccans_Behar @ 4.346493
    20 Algerian_Dodecad + Algerian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Moroccans_Behar @ 4.402218


    HarappaWorld:

     

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 egyptian_behar + italian_hgdp + saharawi_henn2012 + tunisia_henn2012 @ 3.829180
    2 egypt_henn2012 + italian_hgdp + saharawi_henn2012 + saharawi_henn2012 @ 3.860356
    3 egyptian_behar + italian_hgdp + moroccan_behar + tunisia_henn2012 @ 3.999571
    4 egyptian_behar + italian_hgdp + morocco-n_henn2012 + saharawi_henn2012 @ 4.049734
    5 egyptian_behar + saharawi_henn2012 + tunisia_henn2012 + tuscan_hapmap @ 4.091214
    6 egyptian_behar + saharawi_henn2012 + tunisia_henn2012 + tuscan_hgdp @ 4.150751
    7 egypt_henn2012 + italian_hgdp + mozabite_hgdp + saharawi_henn2012 @ 4.166348
    8 egypt_henn2012 + saharawi_henn2012 + tunisia_henn2012 + tuscan_hgdp @ 4.177927
    9 egypt_henn2012 + saharawi_henn2012 + tunisia_henn2012 + tuscan_hapmap @ 4.180832
    10 ashkenazi_harappa + libya_henn2012 + morocco-s_henn2012 + tunisia_henn2012 @ 4.187409
    11 egypt_henn2012 + saharawi_henn2012 + tunisia_henn2012 + tuscan_1000genomes @ 4.193637
    12 egyptian_behar + saharawi_henn2012 + tunisia_henn2012 + tuscan_1000genomes @ 4.197876
    13 egypt_henn2012 + italian_hgdp + morocco-n_henn2012 + saharawi_henn2012 @ 4.206510
    14 egyptian_behar + italian_hgdp + mozabite_hgdp + tunisia_henn2012 @ 4.225610
    15 egypt_henn2012 + italian_hgdp + moroccan_behar + tunisia_henn2012 @ 4.248930
    16 egyptian_behar + italian_hgdp + saharawi_henn2012 + saharawi_henn2012 @ 4.259159
    17 algeria_henn2012 + egypt_henn2012 + italian_hgdp + saharawi_henn2012 @ 4.310183
    18 ashkenazi_harappa + libya_henn2012 + moroccan_behar + tunisia_henn2012 @ 4.338475
    19 egypt_henn2012 + italian_hgdp + saharawi_henn2012 + tunisia_henn2012 @ 4.377252
    20 egyptian_behar + mozabite_hgdp + tunisia_henn2012 + tuscan_hapmap @ 4.395980

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    Y-DNA (P)
    R1a - Z284

    England Norway Germany Poland
    MDLP World 22

     
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++
    1 CEU_V_derived + German_V_derived + Montenegrin_derived + Swedish_V_derived @ 0.514801
    2 CEU_V_derived + CEU_V_derived + Macedonian_derived + Swedish_derived @ 0.662292
    3 CEU_V_derived + German-North_derived + Macedonian_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 0.677580
    4 German-North_derived + German-South_derived + Serbian_derived + Swedish_V_derived @ 0.685833
    5 CEU_derived + Montenegrin_derived + Slovenian_derived + Swedish_V_derived @ 0.701833
    6 CEU_derived + German-North_derived + Macedonian_derived + Swedish_derived @ 0.755557
    7 CEU_V_derived + German-North_derived + Montenegrin_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 0.779078
    8 German-North_derived + German_V_derived + Montenegrin_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 0.785596
    9 German_V_derived + Macedonian_derived + Swedish_V_derived + Welsh_derived @ 0.787063
    10 British_derived + Macedonian_derived + Slovenian_derived + Swedish_V_derived @ 0.787394
    11 CEU_V_derived + CEU_V_derived + Montenegrin_derived + Swedish_derived @ 0.802318
    12 Bosnian_derived + German-North_derived + German-South_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 0.808017
    13 Montenegrin_derived + Norwegian_V_derived + Slovenian_derived + Swedish_derived @ 0.808919
    14 Bulgarian_derived + German-North_derived + Swedish_derived + Welsh_derived @ 0.822656
    15 British_derived + Montenegrin_derived + Slovenian_derived + Swedish_V_derived @ 0.823950
    16 German-South_derived + Kosovar_derived + Latvian_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 0.841068
    17 Hungarian_derived + Montenegrin_derived + Norwegian_V_derived + Swedish_derived @ 0.857040
    18 German-South_derived + Provancestralal_derived + Swedish_V_derived + Ukrainian-Center_derived @ 0.864537
    19 Croatian_derived + Montenegrin_derived + Norwegian_V_derived + Swedish_derived @ 0.865238
    20 British_derived + Hungarian_derived + Serbian_derived + Swedish_V_derived @ 0.880165


    Eurogenes JTest

     
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 English + English + English + NO @ 6.664396
    2 English + English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.706358
    3 English + English + NO + NO @ 6.850126
    4 DK + English + English + NO @ 6.863525
    5 DK + English + English + English @ 6.865826
    6 DK + English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.919582
    7 English + English + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.956458
    8 DK + DK + English + English @ 6.969843
    9 English + English + NL + NO @ 6.983306
    10 English + English + English + English @ 6.985528
    11 English + English + NL + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.052379
    12 English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.086251
    13 DK + English + English + NL @ 7.130310
    14 English + English + NO + Orcadian @ 7.149193
    15 English + English + NO + West_&_Central_German @ 7.168865
    16 English + English + IE + NO @ 7.175890
    17 English + English + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.184793
    18 English + English + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.195745
    19 English + English + English + NL @ 7.200880
    20 DK + English + NL + NO @ 7.217129


    Eurogenes EUTest

     
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 English + English + English + NO @ 6.813350
    2 English + English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.863496
    3 English + English + NO + NO @ 6.880950
    4 DK + English + English + NO @ 6.937246
    5 English + English + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.983972
    6 DK + English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.006121
    7 DK + English + English + English @ 7.071640
    8 English + English + NL + NO @ 7.098633
    9 DK + DK + English + English @ 7.099576
    10 English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.125519
    11 English + English + NL + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.175613
    12 English + English + NO + Orcadian @ 7.226000
    13 English + English + IE + NO @ 7.226264
    14 English + English + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.244087
    15 English + NL + NO + NO @ 7.252519
    16 DK + English + NL + NO @ 7.263143
    17 English + English + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.270944
    18 English + English + English + English @ 7.275686
    19 English + English + NO + West_&_Central_German @ 7.279565
    20 DK + DK + English + NO @ 7.291561


    Dodecad K12b

     

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++
    1 Argyll_1000Genomes + Argyll_1000Genomes + Baleares_1000Genomes + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.094221
    2 Argyll_1000Genomes + Norwegian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + Romanians_Behar @ 1.119809
    3 Argyll_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 1.158477
    4 Irish_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + Romanians_Behar @ 1.183587
    5 Norwegian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + Orcadian_HGDP + Romanians_Behar @ 1.190576
    6 Argyll_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 1.205501
    7 Irish_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 1.222519
    8 Hungarians_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 1.235502
    9 Hungarians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 1.253337
    10 Argyll_1000Genomes + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.257642
    11 Argyll_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Kent_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 1.262929
    12 Argyll_1000Genomes + Norwegian_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 1.271647
    13 Irish_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 1.275890
    14 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + Orcadian_HGDP @ 1.276125
    15 Norwegian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + Orkney_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 1.282184
    16 Dutch_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 1.282273
    17 Hungarians_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 1.288235
    18 Argyll_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 1.291231
    19 Argyll_1000Genomes + Argyll_1000Genomes + Norwegian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 1.293067
    20 Dutch_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 1.301026


    HarappaWorld

     
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 british_1000genomes + french_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + ukranian_yunusbayev @ 1.219496
    2 orcadian_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + serbian_harappa @ 1.225746
    3 hungarian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.237992
    4 hungarian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.263831
    5 british_1000genomes + hungarian_behar + n-european_xing + orcadian_hgdp @ 1.315448
    6 hungarian_behar + n-european_xing + orcadian_hgdp + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.321482
    7 orcadian_hgdp + slovenian_xing + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.348040
    8 french_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + ukranian_yunusbayev + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.373670
    9 french_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + ukranian_yunusbayev @ 1.395826
    10 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + hungarian_behar + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.398002
    11 british_1000genomes + hungarian_behar + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.423324
    12 british_1000genomes + hungarian_behar + utahn-white_hapmap + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.427499
    13 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + hungarian_behar + n-european_xing @ 1.439324
    14 british_1000genomes + hungarian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.446952
    15 hungarian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + utahn-white_hapmap + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.487033
    16 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + slovenian_xing + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.493845
    17 british_1000genomes + orcadian_hgdp + slovenian_xing + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.500210
    18 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + slovenian_xing + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.501250
    19 british_1000genomes + hungarian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.515503
    20 orcadian_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + serbian_harappa + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.553889
    Y-DNA R1a - Z284
    MtDNA - W1g

    Ancestry
    Mostly English with minor East German/Polish.
    *Eurogenes K15 - West_German + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 6.696671
    *MDLP K23B - Dane_ + Dutch_ + Dutch_ + Dutch_ @ 1.366235
    *PuntDNAL K12 Ancient - Vatya_SG_RISE479 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.023980

    Dad - Y-DNA R1a Z284 / MtDNA U5b2b1a1
    Mum - Y-DNA I1 / MtDNA W1g
    Granddad ( Mother's side ) - Y-DNA I1 / MtDNA H3y

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    British

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    MDLP World 22:

     
    Me

    1 CEU_derived + Colville_derived + Lumbee_derived + Tatar_Lithuania_derived @ 5.148993
    2 Lumbee_derived + Swedish_V_derived + Uygur_derived + Welsh_derived @ 5.153595
    3 CEU_V_derived + Lumbee_derived + Swedish_V_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.168618
    4 Colville_derived + Lumbee_derived + Norwegian_V_derived + Tatar_Lithuania_derived @ 5.185127
    5 CEU_derived + Lumbee_derived + Swedish_V_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.202582
    6 Lumbee_derived + Swedish_derived + Uygur_derived + Welsh_derived @ 5.207565
    7 CEU_V_derived + Lumbee_derived + Swedish_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.208916
    8 British_derived + Lumbee_derived + Swedish_V_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.226909
    9 German-North_derived + Lumbee_derived + Norwegian_V_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.239590
    10 Lumbee_derived + Norwegian_V_derived + Swedish_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.257958
    11 Lumbee_derived + Orcadian_derived + Swedish_V_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.267688
    12 Lumbee_derived + Swedish_derived + Swedish_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.271781
    13 German_V_derived + Lumbee_derived + Swedish_V_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.281742
    14 CEU_derived + Lumbee_derived + Swedish_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.290050
    15 British_derived + Colville_derived + Lumbee_derived + Tatar_Lithuania_derived @ 5.305171
    16 Austrian_derived + Lumbee_derived + Swedish_V_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.325542
    17 Lumbee_derived + Orcadian_derived + Swedish_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.340166
    18 Colville_derived + German-South_derived + Lumbee_derived + Tatar_Lithuania_derived @ 5.349885
    19 British_derived + Lumbee_derived + Swedish_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.363359
    20 German-North_derived + Lumbee_derived + Orcadian_derived + Uygur_derived @ 5.377340

    Mum

    1 Burma_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived + Tatar_Lithuania_derived @ 4.831252
    2 Burma_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived + Tatar_derived @ 5.522550
    3 Indian_East_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived + Tatar_Lithuania_derived @ 5.777694
    4 Burma_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived + Tartar_Mishar_derived @ 6.248818
    5 Burma_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived + Tatar_Kryashen_derived @ 6.283100
    6 Indian_East_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived + Tatar_derived @ 6.291108
    7 Aleut_derived + Burma_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived @ 6.790743
    8 Indian_East_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived + Tatar_Kryashen_derived @ 6.902495
    9 Burma_derived + Chuvash_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived @ 6.921219
    10 Biaka_Pygmies_derived + Burma_derived + Romania_derived + Swedish_V_derived @ 6.996747
    11 Colville_derived + Indian_East_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived @ 7.055290
    12 Biaka_Pygmies_derived + Burma_derived + Norwegian_V_derived + Romania_derived @ 7.084789
    13 Indian_East_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived + Tartar_Mishar_derived @ 7.110349
    14 Biaka_Pygmies_derived + Indian_East_derived + Romania_derived + Swedish_V_derived @ 7.150832
    15 Burma_derived + Colville_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived @ 7.157237
    16 Biaka_Pygmies_derived + Burma_derived + Romania_derived + Swedish_derived @ 7.175219
    17 Aleut_derived + Indian_East_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived @ 7.179541
    18 Burma_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived + Lumbee_derived @ 7.220393
    19 Biaka_Pygmies_derived + Burma_derived + Macedonian_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 7.236917
    20 Biaka_Pygmies_derived + Bulgarian_derived + Burma_derived + Norwegian_V_derived @ 7.267134

    Dad

    1 Basque_derived + German-North_derived + German-North_derived + Polish_V_derived @ 1.659383
    2 Basque_derived + German-North_derived + German-North_derived + Ukrainian-East_derived @ 1.892441
    3 Basque_derived + German-North_derived + German-North_derived + Russian_South_derived @ 1.922103
    4 Basque_derived + German_V_derived + German_V_derived + Lithuanian_V_derived @ 1.963174
    5 Basque_derived + British_derived + German_V_derived + Lithuanian_derived @ 1.971900
    6 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic_ancestral + Estonian_derived + Latvian_derived + Latvian_V_derived @ 1.984378
    7 Basque_derived + Belarusian_V_derived + German-North_derived + German-North_derived @ 1.989383
    8 Basque_derived + German-North_derived + German-South_derived + Latvian_derived @ 2.000726
    9 Basque_derived + German-North_derived + Polish_V_derived + Swedish_derived @ 2.006184
    10 Basque_derived + German-North_derived + Swedish_derived + Ukrainian-East_derived @ 2.016749
    11 Basque_derived + German-North_derived + German-North_derived + Polish_derived @ 2.021077
    12 Basque_derived + British_derived + Polish_V_derived + Ukrainian-Center_derived @ 2.023541
    13 Basque_derived + CEU_V_derived + German_V_derived + Lithuanian_V_derived @ 2.036119
    14 Basque_derived + British_derived + German_V_derived + Latvian_derived @ 2.037895
    15 Basque_derived + CEU_derived + German_V_derived + Lithuanian_derived @ 2.038650
    16 Basque_derived + German-North_derived + Russian_South_derived + Swedish_derived @ 2.043471
    17 Basque_derived + German-North_derived + German_V_derived + Polish_derived @ 2.068949
    18 Basque_derived + German-North_derived + German-North_derived + Ukrainian_derived @ 2.080122
    19 Basque_derived + German_V_derived + Latvian_derived + Welsh_derived @ 2.084918
    20 Basque_derived + Orcadian_derived + Polish_V_derived + Ukrainian-Center_derived @ 2.089525


    Eurogenes J Test

     
    Me

    1 DK + FR + IE + KZ @ 11.769851
    2 FR + IE + IE + KZ @ 11.788961
    3 Cornish + Cornish + Cornish + KZ @ 11.798228
    4 DK + FR + KZ + Scottish @ 11.810424
    5 Cornish + Cornish + IE + KZ @ 11.812415
    6 Cornish + Cornish + English + KZ @ 11.816271
    7 FR + IE + KZ + Orcadian @ 11.819411
    8 Cornish + English + IE + KZ @ 11.837302
    9 FR + IE + KZ + Scottish @ 11.850390
    10 DK + FR + KZ + Orcadian @ 11.852318
    11 English + FR + IE + KZ @ 11.853237
    12 Cornish + Cornish + KZ + NL @ 11.857335
    13 Cornish + Cornish + KZ + Orcadian @ 11.860627
    14 FR + KZ + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 11.866177
    15 Cornish + IE + KZ + NL @ 11.867915
    16 Cornish + FR + IE + KZ @ 11.870710
    17 Cornish + Cornish + DK + KZ @ 11.875117
    18 DK + IE + KZ + PT @ 11.876254
    19 DK + KZ + PT + Scottish @ 11.884411
    20 FR + KZ + Orcadian + Scottish @ 11.885966

    Mum

    1 DK + Luhya + NL + Northern_Han_Chinese @ 11.254146
    2 DK + DK + Luhya + Northern_Han_Chinese @ 11.278464
    3 DK + NL + Northern_Han_Chinese + Yoruba @ 11.339865
    4 Luhya + NL + NL + Northern_Han_Chinese @ 11.359251
    5 DK + DK + Northern_Han_Chinese + Yoruba @ 11.360826
    6 DK + IE + Luhya + Northern_Han_Chinese @ 11.365305
    7 DK + English + Luhya + Northern_Han_Chinese @ 11.370570
    8 Luhya + NL + Northern_Han_Chinese + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 11.385550
    9 DK + Luhya + Northern_Han_Chinese + West_&_Central_German @ 11.386817
    10 Luhya + NL + NO + Northern_Han_Chinese @ 11.390013
    11 Cornish + DK + Luhya + Northern_Han_Chinese @ 11.393625
    12 DK + Luhya + Northern_Han_Chinese + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 11.423321
    13 IE + Luhya + NL + Northern_Han_Chinese @ 11.436384
    14 DK + Luhya + NO + Northern_Han_Chinese @ 11.438629
    15 Chinese + DK + Luhya + NL @ 11.443088
    16 NL + NL + Northern_Han_Chinese + Yoruba @ 11.447330
    17 DK + IE + Northern_Han_Chinese + Yoruba @ 11.448359
    18 Cornish + Luhya + Northern_Han_Chinese + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 11.449677
    19 DK + Luhya + Northern_Han_Chinese + Orcadian @ 11.451968
    20 DK + English + Northern_Han_Chinese + Yoruba @ 11.452761

    Dad

    1 Scottish + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.202588
    2 IE + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.229807
    3 Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.351435
    4 IE + IE + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.367619
    5 IE + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.462245
    6 English + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.537333
    7 Cornish + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.561601
    8 Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.592814
    9 IE + IE + IE + Scottish @ 4.606110
    10 IE + IE + Orcadian + Scottish @ 4.670478
    11 Cornish + IE + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.696908
    12 English + IE + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.709167
    13 IE + Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish @ 4.789181
    14 Cornish + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.836195
    15 English + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.892142
    16 Cornish + IE + IE + Scottish @ 4.925393
    17 IE + IE + IE + IE @ 4.930151
    18 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish @ 4.943446
    19 NL + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.963150
    20 English + IE + IE + Scottish @ 4.974907


    Eurogenes EU Test

     
    Me

    1 FR + IE + IE + KZ @ 11.864448
    2 Cornish + IE + IE + KZ @ 11.892945
    3 Cornish + Cornish + IE + KZ @ 11.916039
    4 English + IE + IE + KZ @ 11.945221
    5 IE + IE + KZ + NL @ 11.947206
    6 IE + IE + IE + KZ @ 11.964156
    7 FR + IE + KZ + Orcadian @ 11.966336
    8 Cornish + English + IE + KZ @ 11.967116
    9 Cornish + IE + KZ + NL @ 11.979151
    10 FR + IE + KZ + Scottish @ 11.983729
    11 Cornish + IE + KZ + Orcadian @ 11.985645
    12 DK + FR + IE + KZ @ 11.988435
    13 Cornish + Cornish + Cornish + KZ @ 12.027478
    14 Cornish + Cornish + KZ + Orcadian @ 12.028416
    15 IE + IE + KZ + Orcadian @ 12.039796
    16 Cornish + DK + IE + KZ @ 12.044742
    17 IE + IE + KZ + West_&_Central_German @ 12.057983
    18 English + IE + KZ + Orcadian @ 12.058025
    19 IE + KZ + NL + Orcadian @ 12.068879
    20 DK + IE + IE + KZ @ 12.069341

    Mum

    1 DK + Luhya + NL + North_Han_Chinese @ 11.202377
    2 DK + DK + Luhya + North_Han_Chinese @ 11.237980
    3 Luhya + NL + NL + North_Han_Chinese @ 11.302326
    4 Luhya + NL + North_Han_Chinese + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 11.320111
    5 DK + English + Luhya + North_Han_Chinese @ 11.325062
    6 Luhya + NL + NO + North_Han_Chinese @ 11.325404
    7 DK + IE + Luhya + North_Han_Chinese @ 11.326006
    8 DK + Luhya + North_Han_Chinese + West_&_Central_German @ 11.341134
    9 Cornish + DK + Luhya + North_Han_Chinese @ 11.345762
    10 DK + Luhya + North_Han_Chinese + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 11.378366
    11 IE + Luhya + NL + North_Han_Chinese @ 11.383078
    12 DK + NL + North_Han_Chinese + Yoruba @ 11.384274
    13 DK + Luhya + NO + North_Han_Chinese @ 11.390755
    14 Cornish + Luhya + North_Han_Chinese + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 11.391109
    15 Chinese + DK + Luhya + NL @ 11.394173
    16 English + Luhya + North_Han_Chinese + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 11.396826
    17 English + Luhya + NL + North_Han_Chinese @ 11.406019
    18 DK + Luhya + North_Han_Chinese + Orcadian @ 11.408001
    19 IE + Luhya + North_Han_Chinese + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 11.409664
    20 DK + DK + North_Han_Chinese + Yoruba @ 11.419868

    Dad

    1 Scottish + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.218397
    2 IE + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.306630
    3 Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.428554
    4 IE + IE + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.482878
    5 IE + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.590800
    6 Cornish + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.655436
    7 English + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.677641
    8 Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.728839
    9 IE + IE + IE + Scottish @ 4.737347
    10 IE + IE + Orcadian + Scottish @ 4.828804
    11 Cornish + IE + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.847000
    12 English + IE + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.900527
    13 IE + Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish @ 4.963667
    14 Cornish + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.991364
    15 IE + IE + IE + IE @ 5.058229
    16 English + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 5.087485
    17 NL + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 5.096509
    18 Cornish + IE + IE + Scottish @ 5.106809
    19 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish @ 5.127801
    20 IE + IE + IE + Orcadian @ 5.140992


    Dodecad K12B

     
    Me

    1 French_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 9.611245
    2 French_HGDP + Khasi_Chaubey + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 9.621655
    3 French_HGDP + German_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 9.624342
    4 CEU30_1000Genomes + French_HGDP + German_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey @ 9.629489
    5 CEU30_1000Genomes + French_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey @ 9.629917
    6 French_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 9.630904
    7 French_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes + Khasi_Chaubey @ 9.631120
    8 French_HGDP + German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes + Khasi_Chaubey @ 9.633474
    9 English_Dodecad + French_HGDP + German_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey @ 9.635083
    10 Argyll_1000Genomes + French_HGDP + German_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey @ 9.636615
    11 Khasi_Chaubey + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 9.637022
    12 English_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey @ 9.638396
    13 Argyll_1000Genomes + French_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey @ 9.652287
    14 Dutch_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 9.652450
    15 Dutch_Dodecad + French_HGDP + Khasi_Chaubey + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 9.658565
    16 Cornwall_1000Genomes + French_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey @ 9.660819
    17 Dutch_Dodecad + French_HGDP + German_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey @ 9.661418
    18 Cornwall_1000Genomes + French_HGDP + German_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey @ 9.664905
    19 Dutch_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Khasi_Chaubey @ 9.670213
    20 Argyll_1000Genomes + Khasi_Chaubey + N_Italian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 9.677576

    Mum

    1 Argyll_1000Genomes + Bantu_N.E._HGDP + Burmanese_Chaubey + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.836735
    2 Argyll_1000Genomes + Burmanese_Chaubey + LWK30_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.848292
    3 Bantu_N.E._HGDP + Burmanese_Chaubey + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.868712
    4 Burmanese_Chaubey + Cornwall_1000Genomes + LWK30_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.880216
    5 Bantu_N.E._HGDP + British_Dodecad + Burmanese_Chaubey + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.881777
    6 British_Dodecad + Burmanese_Chaubey + LWK30_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.893259
    7 Bantu_N.E._HGDP + Burmanese_Chaubey + Kent_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.893738
    8 Bantu_N.E._HGDP + Burmanese_Chaubey + Irish_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.893956
    9 Bantu_N.E._HGDP + Burmanese_Chaubey + English_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.895918
    10 Bantu_N.E._HGDP + Burmanese_Chaubey + CEU30_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.899088
    11 Burmanese_Chaubey + Kent_1000Genomes + LWK30_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.905200
    12 Burmanese_Chaubey + Irish_Dodecad + LWK30_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.905417
    13 Bantu_N.E._HGDP + Burmanese_Chaubey + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 6.907292
    14 Burmanese_Chaubey + English_Dodecad + LWK30_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.907376
    15 Burmanese_Chaubey + CEU30_1000Genomes + LWK30_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 6.910542
    16 Burmanese_Chaubey + LWK30_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 6.918731
    17 Bantu_N.E._HGDP + Burmanese_Chaubey + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 6.940276
    18 Burmanese_Chaubey + LWK30_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 6.951661
    19 Argyll_1000Genomes + Bantu_N.E._HGDP + Burmanese_Chaubey + Dutch_Dodecad @ 6.965680
    20 Bantu_N.E._HGDP + Burmanese_Chaubey + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad @ 6.971748

    Dad

    1 British_Isles_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes + Kent_1000Genomes @ 0.914905
    2 British_Isles_Dodecad + CEU30_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes @ 0.954844
    3 CEU30_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes + Kent_1000Genomes @ 1.005491
    4 British_Isles_Dodecad + English_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes @ 1.007870
    5 CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes @ 1.034042
    6 English_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes + Kent_1000Genomes @ 1.034908
    7 German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes + Kent_1000Genomes + Kent_1000Genomes @ 1.037859
    8 CEU30_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes @ 1.051767
    9 British_Isles_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 1.051994
    10 English_Dodecad + English_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes @ 1.073958
    11 British_Isles_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + German_Dodecad @ 1.089874
    12 British_Isles_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar @ 1.117404
    13 British_Isles_Dodecad + CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad @ 1.119518
    14 CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad @ 1.123704
    15 CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + German_Dodecad @ 1.137613
    16 British_Dodecad + British_Isles_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar @ 1.138212
    17 British_Isles_Dodecad + British_Isles_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 1.145000
    18 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes @ 1.145036
    19 British_Isles_Dodecad + CEU30_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + German_Dodecad @ 1.146290
    20 British_Isles_Dodecad + Dutch_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes @ 1.149684


    Harappaworld

     
    Me

    1 french_hgdp + khasi_chaubey + orcadian_hgdp + utahn-white_hapmap @ 8.271855
    2 khasi_chaubey + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 8.290915
    3 british_1000genomes + khasi_chaubey + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 8.292521
    4 french_hgdp + khasi_chaubey + n-european_xing + orcadian_hgdp @ 8.316313
    5 french_hgdp + khasi_chaubey + orcadian_hgdp + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 8.319078
    6 british_1000genomes + french_hgdp + khasi_chaubey + orcadian_hgdp @ 8.335208
    7 french_hgdp + khasi_chaubey + orcadian_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp @ 8.338610
    8 british_1000genomes + french_hgdp + khasi_chaubey + utahn-white_hapmap @ 8.342399
    9 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + khasi_chaubey + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 8.343368
    10 french_hgdp + khasi_chaubey + utahn-white_hapmap + utahn-white_hapmap @ 8.370645
    11 khasi_chaubey + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 8.379515
    12 british_1000genomes + khasi_chaubey + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 8.380557
    13 french_hgdp + khasi_chaubey + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 8.403678
    14 british_1000genomes + khasi_chaubey + n-european_xing + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 8.412604
    15 british_1000genomes + french_hgdp + khasi_chaubey + n-european_xing @ 8.413092
    16 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + french_hgdp + khasi_chaubey @ 8.414129
    17 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + khasi_chaubey + n-european_xing @ 8.418229
    18 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + khasi_chaubey + utahn-white_hapmap @ 8.418719
    19 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + khasi_chaubey @ 8.423621
    20 khasi_chaubey + orcadian_hgdp + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 8.426064

    Mum

    1 british_1000genomes + miao_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + siddi_reich @ 4.488018
    2 miao_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + siddi_reich @ 4.537076
    3 british_1000genomes + burmanese_chaubey + orcadian_hgdp + siddi_reich @ 4.578895
    4 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + miao_hgdp + siddi_reich @ 4.592860
    5 burmanese_chaubey + orcadian_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + siddi_reich @ 4.646859
    6 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + burmanese_chaubey + siddi_reich @ 4.658203
    7 miao_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + siddi_reich + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 4.669999
    8 burmanese_chaubey + orcadian_hgdp + siddi_reich + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 4.739275
    9 british_1000genomes + miao_hgdp + siddi_reich + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 4.825069
    10 miao_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + siddi_reich + utahn-white_hapmap @ 4.837780
    11 british_1000genomes + burmanese_chaubey + siddi_reich + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 4.873456
    12 british_1000genomes + orcadian_hgdp + siddi_reich + singapore-chinese_sgvp @ 4.899315
    13 burmanese_chaubey + lithuanian_behar + siddi_reich + spain-basc_henn2012 @ 4.909729
    14 british_1000genomes + miao_hgdp + siddi_reich + utahn-white_hapmap @ 4.918452
    15 burmanese_chaubey + orcadian_hgdp + siddi_reich + utahn-white_hapmap @ 4.918726
    16 orcadian_hgdp + orcadian_hgdp + siddi_reich + singapore-chinese_sgvp @ 4.946167
    17 british_1000genomes + burmanese_chaubey + siddi_reich + utahn-white_hapmap @ 4.978200
    18 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + siddi_reich + singapore-chinese_sgvp @ 4.994207
    19 miao_hgdp + n-european_xing + orcadian_hgdp + siddi_reich @ 5.024001
    20 basque_hgdp + burmanese_chaubey + lithuanian_behar + siddi_reich @ 5.039124

    Dad

    1 basque_hgdp + hungarian_behar + lithuanian_behar + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.759104
    2 basque_hgdp + british_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + slovenian_xing @ 1.800248
    3 british_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + slovenian_xing + spain-basc_henn2012 @ 1.807170
    4 n-european_xing + n-european_xing + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.815400
    5 basque_hgdp + lithuanian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + slovenian_xing @ 1.815416
    6 basque_hgdp + lithuanian_behar + slovenian_xing + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.820560
    7 hungarian_behar + lithuanian_behar + spain-basc_henn2012 + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.830905
    8 basque_hgdp + lithuanian_behar + slovenian_xing + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.853388
    9 n-european_xing + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.865432
    10 hungarian_behar + lithuanian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + spain-basc_henn2012 @ 1.872177
    11 basque_hgdp + hungarian_behar + lithuanian_behar + orcadian_hgdp @ 1.898812
    12 british_1000genomes + hungarian_behar + lithuanian_behar + spain-basc_henn2012 @ 1.902713
    13 lithuanian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + slovenian_xing + spain-basc_henn2012 @ 1.904772
    14 basque_hgdp + belorussian_behar + orcadian_hgdp + ukranian_yunusbayev @ 1.923203
    15 lithuanian_behar + slovenian_xing + spain-basc_henn2012 + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.928821
    16 n-european_xing + n-european_xing + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.940686
    17 british_1000genomes + n-european_xing + n-european_xing + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.940843
    18 british_1000genomes + british_1000genomes + lithuanian_behar + spaniard_behar @ 1.945108
    19 hungarian_behar + lithuanian_behar + spain-basc_henn2012 + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 1.955091
    20 n-european_xing + utahn-white_1000genomes + utahn-white_hapmap + utahn-white_hapmap @ 1.959455
    Last edited by JFWinstone; 03-27-2018 at 06:10 PM.
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    Papertrail @ 2xggrandparents: 37.5% London, 25% Dorset, 25% Mauritius, 6.25% Netherlands, 6.25% Hampshire

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