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    Quote Originally Posted by Piquerobi View Post
    Arkaim has been associated with the Indo-Iranians:


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkaim

    https://www.ancient-origins.net/anci...m-russia-00251

    Says it is a stonehedge like Megalith site of different culture. No samples have been found to date on the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piquerobi View Post
    Arkaim has been associated with the Indo-Iranians:


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkaim

    I wonder how those guys survived winter with houses like that. One heavy snowfall and it's over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Censored View Post
    I wonder how those guys survived winter with houses like that. One heavy snowfall and it's over.
    Usually heavy wooden stuff are lost leaving only stone behind. The stonehedge had those wooden cover & heavy grass like insulation mterial that protects from cold

    ARkaim had elongated skulls as shown in pic

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    David W Anthony:

    Similarities between the rituals excavated at Sintashta and Arkaim and those described later in the RV (Rig Veda) have solved, for many, the problem of Indo-Iranian origins. The parallels include a reference in RV 10.18 to a kurgan ("let them... bury death in this hill"), a roofed burial chamber supported with posts ("let the fathers hold up this pillar for you"), and with shored walls ("I shore up the earth all around you; let me not injure you as I lay down this clod of earth"). This is a precise description of Sintashta and Potapovka-Filatovka grave pits, which had wooden plank roofs supported by timber posts and plank shoring walls. The horse sacrifice at a royal funeral is described in RV 1.162: "Keep the limbs undamaged and place them in the proper pattern. Cut them part, calling out piece by piece". The horse sacrifices in Sintashta, Potapovka, and Filatovka graves match this description, with the lower legs of horses carefully cut apart at the joints and placed in and over the grave. The preference for horses as a sacrificial animals in Sintashta funeral rituals, a species choice setting Sintashta aparta from earlier steppe cultures, was again paralleled in the RV. [...]

    In many small ways the cultures between the upper Don and Tobol rivers in the northern steppes showed a common kinship with the Aryans of the Rig Veda and Avesta. Between 2100 and 1800 BCE they invented the chariot, organized themselves into stronghold-based chiefdoms, armed themselves with new kinds of weapons, created a new style of funeral rituals that involved spectacular public displays of wealth and generosity, and began to mine and produce metals on a scale previously unimagined in the steppes. Their actions reverberated across the Eurasian continent. The northern forest frontier began to dissolve east of the Urals as it had earlier west of the Urals; metallurgy and some aspects of Sintashta settlement designs spread north into the Siberian forests. Chariotry spread west through the Ukrainian steppe MVK culture into southeastern Europe's Monteoru (phase Ic1-Ib), Vattin, and Otomani cultures, perhaps with the satem dialects that later popped up in Armenian, Albanian, and Phrygian, all of which are thought to have evolved in southeastern Europe. (Pre-Greek must have departed before this, as it did not share in the satem innovations). And the Ural frontier was finally broken - herding economies spread eastward across the steppes. With them went the eastern daughters of Sintashta, the offspring who would later emerge into history as the Iranian and Vedic Aryans. These eastern and southern connections finally brought northern steppe cultures into face-to-face contact with the old civilizations of Asia.
    pages 408-411, "The Horse, the Wheel and Language - How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes shaped the Modern World"

    Chariot model, Arkaim (it reminds me of the Bhagavad Gita!):

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piquerobi View Post
    David W Anthony:


    pages 408-411, "The Horse, the Wheel and Language - How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes shaped the Modern World"

    Chariot model, Arkaim (it reminds me of the Bhagavad Gita!):

    yes looks very similar to ones shown in old paintings

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