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    Southeast Asia 33%
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    Southern Bantu People 17%
    Southern Philippines 12%
    Eastern Bantu Peoples 8%
    Cameroon, Congo & Western Bantu Peoples 4%
    Ethnogene: 51.4% NW European, 21.6% W European, 10.1% Southeastern African, 9.5% Southeast Asian, 4.4% South Asian, 2% Scandinavian, 1% East African
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    Somali Bantu results, she's around 40% Horner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    Somali Bantu results, she's around 40% Horner.

    Yet she is only 35% bantu (same amount I have). 50% horner components +6% BNEA with very low sudanese. On G25% she would probably score 55 to 60% modern Somali. Does she represent a good average for Somali bantus?
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    35.6 Sudanese
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpatsibihugu89 View Post
    Yet she is only 35% bantu (same amount I have). 50% horner components +6% BNEA with very low sudanese. On G25% she would probably score 55 to 60% modern Somali. Does she represent a good average for Somali bantus?
    I don't know much about them tbh.They live in Somalia so users from there would probably know more about this minority group then me.This result and the other result I posted are the only two Bantu minority results I have seen.

    From the discussions I have had with southerners, they usually deny any intermarriage occured with the Bantu but clearly based on these two results posted there was heavy intermixing going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpatsibihugu89 View Post
    Yet she is only 35% bantu (same amount I have). 50% horner components +6% BNEA with very low sudanese. On G25% she would probably score 55 to 60% modern Somali. Does she represent a good average for Somali bantus?
    The second one is either part Bravanese (a more Asian leaning Swahili minority) or possibly a full Bajuni (a more typical Swahili group). I doubt she is a standard Somali Bantu. The earlier result is probably more normative.

    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    From the discussions I have had with southerners, they usually deny any intermarriage occured with the Bantu but clearly based on these two results posted there was heavy intermixing going on.
    Most Somalis who say that mixing is uncommon mean that geneflow from Somali Bantus into ethnic Somali communities is uncommon, not the inverse. The vast majority of Southern ethnic Somalis I have seen on 23andMe score either zero or sub 1% Bantu components.

    Moreover, as an analogy: African Americans have high European admixture, yet European American Southerners have low African admixture or you can use Romanis vs native Balkan people as another example. Admixture can flow primarily in one direction between two populations.
    Last edited by NetNomad; 03-12-2021 at 06:46 PM.

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    We haven't seen enough Raxanweyn or Hawiye results from all their subclans to come to that conclusion.There was even one Raxanweyn who literally had E-M2 as his haplogroup yet was autosomally Horner.I think the vast majority of these Bantu admixed southern "Somalis" from Somalia are actually Af-Maay speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetNomad View Post
    The second one is either part Bravanese (a more Asian leaning Swahili minority) or possibly a full Bajuni (a more typical Swahili group). I doubt she is a standard Somali Bantu. The earlier result is probably more normative.

    Most Somalis who say that mixing is uncommon mean that geneflow from Somali Bantus into ethnic Somali communities is uncommon, not the inverse. The vast majority of Southern ethnic Somalis I have seen on 23andMe score either zero or sub 1% Bantu components.

    Moreover, as an analogy: African Americans have high European admixture, yet European American Southerners have low African admixture or you can use Romanis vs native Balkan people as another example. Admixture can flow primarily in one direction between two populations.
    Banjuni results I have seen usually have much higher south-Asian/Arabian admixture on the same level has Bravenese and Benadiris, but usually have zero or minor Cushitic admixture. I think most of them were from Kenya though.

    If she had Bravenese admixture it was likely from a grandparent or great grant parent judging from her results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    We haven't seen enough Raxanweyn or Hawiye results from all their subclans to come to that conclusion.
    Earlier:
    but clearly based on these two results posted there was heavy intermixing going on
    why do you think that NetNomad's data set of hundreds of Southern ethnic Somalis on 23and is not enough to reach a conclusion but just two results is?

    Quote Originally Posted by NetNomad View Post
    The second one is either part Bravanese (a more Asian leaning Swahili minority) or possibly a full Bajuni (a more typical Swahili group). I doubt she is a standard Somali Bantu. The earlier result is probably more normative.



    Most Somalis who say that mixing is uncommon mean that geneflow from Somali Bantus into ethnic Somali communities is uncommon, not the inverse. The vast majority of Southern ethnic Somalis I have seen on 23andMe score either zero or sub 1% Bantu components.

    Moreover, as an analogy: African Americans have high European admixture, yet European American Southerners have low African admixture or you can use Romanis vs native Balkan people as another example. Admixture can flow primarily in one direction between two populations.

    This analogy is pretty much spot on.

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