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    Not sure where to begin

    I've been researching my family tree for a very long time and have finally connected my paternal lineage from Chapmans in PEI, Canada to Cornwall, England. My DNA results coming back as Irish threw me a curve. Either my ancestors moved south from Ireland or originated from the cluster that eventually settled in Ireland. Hopefully I can finally connect with a Chapman in the UK that shares my DNA.

    Johnny

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    Hi Johnny, welcome.
    What information have you learned that Your DNA is Irish?
    Some things that I have learned about genetic genealogy are that the location of origin (a notion pretty difficult to nail down for a group of people who are more or less on the move for millennia) and the location of settlement(s) in historical times, and the location of settlement(s) since the stabilization of surnames are often surprisingly different from each other.
    As the crow flies, the northern coast of central Cornwall is about 225 km/140 mi/120 nm from the coast of County Wexford. The coast of Wales is about half that distance from both. I don't know the seas or the currents. So, I don't know the best way, but they did. To the coastal people, who fished and traded as a way of life, the sea was not a barrier, it was a highway.

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    FGC4077 is found in Ireland, Scotland, England and France. The only sub-group with any obvious geographical focus (within the last 800 years) is the FGC5856 group I'm in which is limited to central Scotland so far.
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    Johnny, please pardon this slow response. I'm not as active in DNA matters as I used to be.

    I looked at your haplotype in the R-M222 and Subclades Project. You are actually a member of the R-A725 branch of R-FGC4077. It remains the case that people in this more limited subdivision are still found in Ireland, Scotland and England, so your search field is still wider than you might like. It is the case, however, that a very few members of this predominantly Irish and Scottish group are found in Devon and Cornwall, so you should not feel completely at sea in looking for roots. Good luck in the hunt.

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    I don't know whether your ancestry does have Irish origins or how far you have traced it back but there was substantial Irish migration to Cornwall as well as other places during the Industrial revolution, mostly associated with mining I would think. Your surname seems to have an Anglo/Saxon origin though. Good luck with your search. John
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    Hi Johnny, I see that you are in the A725+ sub-group of our Ireland yDNA Project. Looking at Alex Williamson's Big Y chart, I see Ireland and Scotland feature:http://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php...563&star=false

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    We have 31 A725 in the FGC4077 group. Here is a count of the self-identified countries of origin for those who know it.

    A725-------------- 31
    Ireland----------- 14
    Scotland---------- 6
    England----------- 3
    Northern Ireland-- 3
    Unknown/other----- 5


    Of the three who list England, one lists Liverpool as place of birth, one lists German's Week, Devon as place of death, and one is unknown.

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