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Thread: L513 (L21>DF13>L513) & Z249 and Subclades L193, L706.2, L577, CTS3087, L69.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnus.AlmRosenblad View Post
    Hi,

    I am a "new" Scandinavian L513, just transferred my Geno 2.0 data to FTDNA and have also ordered Geno 2 NGS but have no results yet.

    If I order another test, I'd like to get some advice on which one to choose. I would very much like to contribute to the L513 project.

    Looking at my data, I could see 4 of the CTS SNPs that were mentioned by Mikewww as downstream L513 to be interesting for scandis:

    # L513/S215/DF1*>*S6365*>*Z16361*> CTS750
    CTS3087,Y,G,G (14655169-G-A)

    #*L513/S215/DF1*>*S6365*> L705
    L705,Y,T,T (3436215-G-T)
    L706,Y,A,A (3436218-G-A)
    CTS6621,Y,T,T (17014155-T-C)
    CTS6942,Y,G,G ( 17203952-G-T )
    CTS11744,Y,G,G (23246598-G-A)

    I tried to find others but have not seen any (just searching manually though).

    My oldest verified ancestor was born 1866 in the east of southern Sweden, 150 km south of Tibbhult (fN29541, Sunesson).


    /Magnus Alm Rosenblad
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    Welcome. Please also join the R1b-L513-project yahoo group. I will look at your results tonight or tomorrow. Do you have any Y STRs? You have to have some STRs to show up on the project displays.

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    Hi, thanks for reply ...

    Sorry, but I only have Geno 2.0 data, will transfer Geno 2 NGS when the result arrives.

    Is it any good to also order some other test? Y111? Or is it better to wait until Geno 2 NGS has been analyzed?
    Although I work with DNA analysis, human data of this kind is new to me.

    Will check Yahoo group!

    /Magnus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnus.AlmRosenblad View Post
    Hi, thanks for reply ...

    Sorry, but I only have Geno 2.0 data, will transfer Geno 2 NGS when the result arrives.

    Is it any good to also order some other test? Y111? Or is it better to wait until Geno 2 NGS has been analyzed?
    Although I work with DNA analysis, human data of this kind is new to me.

    Will check Yahoo group!

    /Magnus
    For R1b-L513, we pretty much need 67 Y STRs to tell much. Two of our key STR markers are DYS406s1=11 and DYS617=13 or "11-13". Our original project was name the "11-13 Combo" project for these two markers before we knew they were an underlying indicator of the L513+ SNP status. You have to have the 38-67 STR panel (which means ordering all 67) to see your status. There are many other key markers for the various subgroupings.

    If you can go all the way to 111 Y STRs. Almost half of our project is at 111 STRs. At that point, we can check your matches and may find there are only one or two SNPs that are pertinent and you need to test for.

    In any case, 111 STRs is a good investment for FTDNA's matching database.

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    Many thanks Mike,

    have now ordered y111.

    Looking forward to seeing the results!

    /Magnus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnus.AlmRosenblad View Post
    Many thanks Mike,

    have now ordered y111.

    Looking forward to seeing the results!

    /Magnus
    Very good, Magnus. We have a couple of different Scandinavian subgroups in the project. It has always been intriguing the figure out how we are connected. That Sunneson has an MDKA back to the 16th century in Sweden and is my subgroup.

    There is one solid Swedish group. Some think they are related to a tribe called the Menapi.

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    Richard R, can you see the read for these two Sardinians, 1016 and 1017, at 02700269 ?

    We have found that 06795128-G-A is FGC9776 and we think FGC9776 might be an equivalent to S5668, a very large and early branch of L513.

    S5668 is 02700269-A-G. If you find that this is ancestral, this could mean that FGC9776 is older than S5668. This could also imply that these Sardinian L513 folks have been there a long time, and are not recent immigrants from NW Europe.


    Quote Originally Posted by R.Rocca View Post
    Mike, in the supplementary material, there are two L21+ samples (1016 &1017). None of the SNPs below L513 that you mentioned above are in the supplied data, so they are either negative for all of them, or in some cases, fell outside the testing mask they used to sequence. The two samples share the following SNPs:

    15654428 C>G (L21)
    7340450 C>T (L513)
    19068703 C>T
    6795128 G>A
    17660414 A>G
    14382701 C>T
    15224008 T>C

    The five additional SNPs these two samples share are not found in any of the databases I've checked. Dare we call it "The Sardinian Cluster"???

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