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    Balkan T-M70 information

    There was only 8 x T-M70 found in the Croatian paper

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...22876/abstract


    4 from Losinj https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lo%C5%A1inj

    and 4 from the Dalmatian coast


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    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Lošinj was not sampled in this study

    Croatian T-M70 :
    4 samples from Dubrovnik (out of 179)
    3 samples from Mljet (out of 39)
    1 sample from Zadar hinterland (out of 25)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zarkusa View Post
    Lošinj was not sampled in this study

    Croatian T-M70 :
    4 samples from Dubrovnik (out of 179)
    3 samples from Mljet (out of 39)
    1 sample from Zadar hinterland (out of 25)
    thanks
    I was told MLJ represented Mali-Losinj

    Mljet makes more sense as its near dubrovnik and home to the ancient
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narentines

    and later in time came under
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ragusa


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    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by zarkusa View Post
    Lošinj was not sampled in this study

    Croatian T-M70 :
    4 samples from Dubrovnik (out of 179)
    3 samples from Mljet (out of 39)
    1 sample from Zadar hinterland (out of 25)
    I have recently discovered my great grandfather came from the Island of Lošinj (Lussin, Austria at the time of his birth), having been born there about 1857, arriving in Australia in 1877. The name he has used in Australia was Dominic Carles, which doesn't have any Croatian 'ring' to it at all! His paternal grandson's DNA path is T-M184 — T-L490 — T-M70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlevick View Post
    I have recently discovered my great grandfather came from the Island of Lošinj (Lussin, Austria at the time of his birth), having been born there about 1857, arriving in Australia in 1877. The name he has used in Australia was Dominic Carles, which doesn't have any Croatian 'ring' to it at all! His paternal grandson's DNA path is T-M184 — T-L490 — T-M70.
    I am chasing another T-M70 from Lussin Croatia....surname Steiner ( Giovanni and I seen records for his father Alvise ( Alvise is venetian form for Luigi ))...........originally from a town called Barbian in South Tyrol Italy ( high in the alps ) ............was in Barbian in the 1730

    Is this any link to you ?


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    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlevick View Post
    I have recently discovered my great grandfather came from the Island of Lošinj (Lussin, Austria at the time of his birth), having been born there about 1857, arriving in Australia in 1877. The name he has used in Australia was Dominic Carles, which doesn't have any Croatian 'ring' to it at all! His paternal grandson's DNA path is T-M184 — T-L490 — T-M70.
    Dominic Carles ...............would have been Domenico Carlesso if you think he was north italian .................there are 466 housholds in italy with surname Carlesso of which only 27 are not in north italy


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    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    I am chasing another T-M70 from Lussin Croatia....surname Steiner ( Giovanni and I seen records for his father Alvise ( Alvise is venetian form for Luigi ))...........originally from a town called Barbian in South Tyrol Italy ( high in the alps ) ............was in Barbian in the 1730

    Is this any link to you ?
    Thank you for your response. At this stage I have no idea if there is any link, just yet. I am seeking the Crew Agreement from one of the ships on which my Dominic Carles served, which will hopefully give a more precise surname/family name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    Dominic Carles ...............would have been Domenico Carlesso if you think he was north italian .................there are 466 housholds in italy with surname Carlesso of which only 27 are not in north italy
    Many thanks for this information. I will see if searches yield anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlevick View Post
    Many thanks for this information. I will see if searches yield anything.
    what dates do you have for domenic carles and i will look it up ( if dates are appropriate )

    I will check venetian archives fro lussin island circa 1790


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    I had a quick look to see if the name was associated with trieste ....it is not..............trieste was never ever venetian or under venice in its history ( even though they spoke venetian ) and only italian in recent times, before this it was mainly austrian

    http://triestestoria.altervista.org/famiglie/c.html


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