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    Let's have some serious testing for mtDNA in the Plymouth area and nearby areas! Circumstantial evidence is that my U5b2b2 came from there. I won't go into details, but I latched onto that via the old SMGF (or whatever it was = Sorensen lab). My rare HVR1+HVR2 is unique and is almost surely U5b2b2/G228A back there. I myself had the full FMS done. I don't have a paper trail (names and dates) going back that far in my direct maternal line, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimore1937 View Post
    Let's have some serious testing for mtDNA in the Plymouth area and nearby areas!

    Well the Warren girls (and Elizabeth Walker Warren) were all H1j, as far as I know.

    (Mrs) Elizabeth Warren – Wife of Mayflower passenger Richard Warren. Came over with 5 daughters. In 1623 land division he is listed as “Richard Waren” with 5 shares. In the 1627 cattle division the family is listed with 9 shares – parents and 7 children. Richard Warren died in 1628. After her husband’s death, she became an after-the-fact member of the 1626 Purchaser investment group as “Elizabeth Warren, widow.” She died in 1673, aged ninety years.[75]
    Abigail Warren (daughter) – later married Anthony Snow.[16]
    Ann (Anna) Warren (daughter) – later married Thomas Little.[16]
    Elizabeth Warren (jr) (daughter) – later married Richard Church.[16]
    Mary Warren (daughter) – later married Robert Bartlett, Anne passenger.[16]
    Sarah Warren (daughter) – later married Mayflower passenger John Cooke.[16]
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    Y-cousin: 6DRIF-23 (DF19>>Z17112+, S17075+)

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    expanded explanation: I don't claim that my direct maternal line necessarily goes back to the Mayflower specifically. But that U5b2b2 is from the Great Migration period. Ann Johnson, wife of William(or etc.) Makepeace, is the point person. She had females descended from her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    Well the Warren girls (and Elizabeth Walker Warren) were all H1j, as far as I know.
    Do you know of any "umbilical" descendants? That is lines which came strictly from mother to daughter all the way down to the present day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wing Genealogist View Post
    Do you know of any "umbilical" descendants? That is lines which came strictly from mother to daughter all the way down to the present day?
    Yes, unless I have the genealogy wrong, my dad:

    Elizabeth (Walker) Warren b. 1583 Baldock Hertfordshire > Sarah Warren > Mary Cooke b. 1651 > Lydia Taber b. 1673 > Lydia Mosher b. 1717 > Hannah Deuel* b. 1753 > Lydia Griffith* b. 1775 > Phebe Minerva Dixon* b. 1809 > Minerva Phoebe Harrington* b. 1831 > Annie Minerva Mead* b. 1875 > my grandmother* b. 1903 > my dad b. 1937 (still living).

    Dad is the last along that specific mtDNA line, both he and his mom were only children.

    *These women are all buried in Vermont.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (S17075-)

    Y-cousin: 6DRIF-23 (DF19>>Z17112+, S17075+)

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    That "Umbilical" method is how I traced my HVR1+HVR2 line back to Massachusetts in the first place. That was from information seen at the SMGF website. Although there were pages and pages of HVR1-only matches, there were only two matches that had both HVR1+HVR2 (G228A). One line I could only trace back to around 1800 or a bit earlier in Pennsylvania. But the other female to female line was from Canada. That line was traceable via the female line right back to earliest Massachusetts. That Canadian line was apparently Loyalist that moved to Canada back in the day.

    Some surnames downstream on Ann Johnson's female lines: Makepeace, Davis, Paine, Douglas, Evans, Cole, Hathaway, Gage, Cleveland, Wetherell, Peirce, Chase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    Yes, unless I have the genealogy wrong, my dad:

    Elizabeth (Walker) Warren b. 1583 Baldock Hertfordshire > Sarah Warren > Mary Cooke b. 1651 > Lydia Taber b. 1673 > Lydia Mosher b. 1717 > Hannah Deuel* b. 1753 > Lydia Griffith* b. 1775 > Phebe Minerva Dixon* b. 1809 > Minerva Phoebe Harrington* b. 1831 > Annie Minerva Mead* b. 1875 > my grandmother* b. 1903 > my dad b. 1937 (still living).

    Dad is the last along that specific mtDNA line, both he and his mom were only children.

    *These women are all buried in Vermont.
    BTW, Wing G, Lydia Griffith (on her father's side) is also the second great granddaughter of Beulah Wing, daughter of Daniel Wing.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (S17075-)

    Y-cousin: 6DRIF-23 (DF19>>Z17112+, S17075+)

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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