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    Not an ancient DNA, but may be of interest for you: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/05/15/1721372115 ...[cut]...
    Hopefully some researcher will explore DNA testing of the remains at some point (and the sooner, the better). I would personally be very interested in the Y-DNA results, to see if U106 (and hopefully which subclades of U106) is found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rozenfeld View Post
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-27325-0

    Article | Open | Published: 12 June 2018

    Investigating Holocene human population history in North Asia using ancient mitogenomes

    Gülşah Merve Kılınç, Natalija Kashuba, Reyhan Yaka, Arev Pelin Sümer, Eren Yüncü, Dmitrij Shergin, Grigorij Leonidovich Ivanov, Dmitrii Kichigin, Kjunnej Pestereva, Denis Volkov, Pavel Mandryka, Artur Kharinskii, Alexey Tishkin, Evgenij Ineshin, Evgeniy Kovychev, Aleksandr Stepanov, Aanatolij Alekseev, Svetlana Aleksandrovna Fedoseeva, Mehmet Somel, Mattias Jakobsson, Maja Krzewińska, Jan Storċ & Anders Götherström

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    Archaeogenomic studies have largely elucidated human population history in West Eurasia during the Stone Age. However, despite being a broad geographical region of significant cultural and linguistic diversity, little is known about the population history in North Asia. We present complete mitochondrial genome sequences together with stable isotope data for 41 serially sampled ancient individuals from North Asia, dated between c.13,790 BP and c.1,380 BP extending from the Palaeolithic to the Iron Age. Analyses of mitochondrial DNA sequences and haplogroup data of these individuals revealed the highest genetic affinity to present-day North Asian populations of the same geographical region suggesting a possible long-term maternal genetic continuity in the region. We observed a decrease in genetic diversity over time and a reduction of maternal effective population size (Ne) approximately seven thousand years before present. Coalescent simulations were consistent with genetic continuity between present day individuals and individuals dating to 7,000 BP, 4,800 BP or 3,000 BP. Meanwhile, genetic differences observed between 7,000 BP and 3,000 BP as well as between 4,800 BP and 3,000 BP were inconsistent with genetic drift alone, suggesting gene flow into the region from distant gene pools or structure within the population. These results indicate that despite some level of continuity between ancient groups and present-day populations, the region exhibits a complex demographic history during the Holocene.

    The 14.865 to 14.590 (cal.) BC sample Yak25 was mtDNA R1. Considering the R3 in AG3 and the fact that R1 is found in India in some UP Brahmins, in some NW Caucasian people and some Russians and Poles, this is interesting. The sample could possibly be ANE. That would extend ANE to beyond lake Baikal. Khaiyrgas Cave at the Lena rive.

    EDIT: O yeah. I missed Kurds. The list is admittedly from Wikipedia
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    Also Yamna
    RISE786 (YamnayaKaragash_EMBA), Yamnaya, 3018-2887 BC
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    Y-DNA: R-CTS1843 (R1b1a2a2c1)

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    Hopefully Yak25 gets some autosomal testing later down the line. It looks like they had great mt-dna coverage (at least compared to other samples), so hopefully there's a good amount of autosomal to work with.
    So far we have mt-R1 is AfontovaGora3, KO1, and bunch of samples from the recent Caucasus paper.
    PM me for d-stats. If I have the samples I will run them. Also, here is a collection of 14,000. Part 1: Hidden Content Part 2: Hidden Content Part 3: Hidden Content

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    In the amidst Kurds and Pakistanis are gentlemen R1b-CTs8722.
    Their ancestor is RISE786 (YamnayaKaragash_EMBA)
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    Anyone heard of any new ancient DNA papers about Europe, Near East or Central Asia that may be coming out soon?

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