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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldemar View Post
    From 2006 to 2017 over 40 DNA samples were obtained from living members of the Rurikid Dynasty and processed through DNA testing, the eventual results grouped the participants into 3 haplogroups (N1c1, R1a1, and I2a1).
    That is what Volkov and Seslavin say; they also say The group that had the highest frequency and was also the most interrelated was the group belonging to subclade N-Y4339 (40%).
    The estimated age of that group and internal structure largely in line with genealogy is very telling to me.

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    News from ESHE:
    https://twitter.com/AmandaGHenry/sta...85030361374720
    Massilani: nuclear and mtDNA from Salkhit fossil (34ka, Mongolia) shows relation to contemporary and modern East Asian groups, also segments of Denisovan DNA that appear in modern populations.
    https://twitter.com/jjhublin/status/1174979389026553857
    Diyendo Massilani at #ESHE2019: Genomic analyses of the 34,000-year-old Salkhit individual from Mongolia (once believed to be “archaic”) is “modern”. Contact of of Homo sapiens with Denisovans occurred in Northern Asia before 40,000 BP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pylsteen View Post
    That is what Volkov and Seslavin say; they also say The group that had the highest frequency and was also the most interrelated was the group belonging to subclade N-Y4339 (40%).
    The estimated age of that group and internal structure largely in line with genealogy is very telling to me.
    Let's see if this calms down the nationalists and their claims of infidelity. Somehow I doubt it.

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    https://twitter.com/AmandaGHenry/sta...78077505986560

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    Sinitsyn: Eastern European sites (beyond the Carpathians) with Initial Upper Paleolithic levels all show own traditions, but also shared techno-typological features related to modern human migration. #ESHE2019
    https://twitter.com/jjhublin/status/1175076637785935874

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    At #ESHE2019 Andrey Sinitsyn is presenting his reflections on the EUP and AMH dispersal in Eastern Europe. Well... In short: it is VERY complicated. BUT it clearly involves some pre - Aurignacian assemblages
    This may point to very different genetic ancestry. We already know that at least one of the earliest AMH didn't leave ancestry. Oase 1.
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    CRC-Lecture Nov 4th by Ron Pinhasi: Progress and new directions in ancient DNA genomics

    by Ron Pinhasi, Department of Evolutionary Anthropology, University of Vienna

    Ancient DNA has revolutionized the study of migrations and the interactions between past populations. During the past 4 years there was a major increase in the number of genome-wide human aDNA studies, some of which now provide paleogenomic data for 100s of prehistoric individuals from numerous archaeological cultures. However, the predominant focus of most studies on Eurasian prehistoric cultures has left certain temporal and geographic gaps. There is also a growing concern regarding the damage is caused by most current bone sampling methods to various skeletal collections. The talk will report address these aspects by discussing the following : (1) new sampling methods which minimize damage to skeletal collections and/or optimize ancient DNA yields, (2) studies of prehistoric cultures from non-temperate world regions, and (3) our new results on the genetic legacy of the Roman Empire.

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    Date, Time:04/11/2019, 16:00 h – 17:30 h

    Location: Hörsaal Geologie (310/EG/030), Zülpicher Str. 49a, Cologne

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    Quote Originally Posted by rozenfeld View Post
    http://sfb806irtg.uni-koeln.de/?p=5109

    CRC-Lecture Nov 4th by Ron Pinhasi: Progress and new directions in ancient DNA genomics

    by Ron Pinhasi, Department of Evolutionary Anthropology, University of Vienna

    Ancient DNA has revolutionized the study of migrations and the interactions between past populations. During the past 4 years there was a major increase in the number of genome-wide human aDNA studies, some of which now provide paleogenomic data for 100s of prehistoric individuals from numerous archaeological cultures. However, the predominant focus of most studies on Eurasian prehistoric cultures has left certain temporal and geographic gaps. There is also a growing concern regarding the damage is caused by most current bone sampling methods to various skeletal collections. The talk will report address these aspects by discussing the following : (1) new sampling methods which minimize damage to skeletal collections and/or optimize ancient DNA yields, (2) studies of prehistoric cultures from non-temperate world regions, and (3) our new results on the genetic legacy of the Roman Empire.

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    Date, Time:04/11/2019, 16:00 h – 17:30 h

    Location: Hörsaal Geologie (310/EG/030), Zülpicher Str. 49a, Cologne
    Does this mean the Moots Stanford paper will be published until November?

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    The Lech Valley CWC/BBC paper is coming tomorrow at Science.

    The genotypes are here, but I'm getting an error...

    https://edmond.mpdl.mpg.de/imeji/col...FcMTgRKNqe4Nzm
    The SNP file appears to have the information, but the file is so large, I wasn't able to load it all (it stopped with Chromosome 18 SNPs).

    If SKS was able to open this file and create a file with only the Y Chromosome SNPs, it would be GREATLY appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wing Genealogist View Post
    The SNP file appears to have the information, but the file is so large, I wasn't able to load it all (it stopped with Chromosome 18 SNPs).

    If SKS was able to open this file and create a file with only the Y Chromosome SNPs, it would be GREATLY appreciated.
    It's just a list of the SNPs covered and L21 isn't included which is a pity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdean View Post
    It's just a list of the SNPs covered and L21 isn't included which is a pity.
    Even the listing of what SNPs are included (and what are not) is very informative. As stated, L21 wasn't included, so other major clades likely are not as well.
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    Here's a list of Y-haplogroups from Mittnik 2019. Haplogroups with A and BT-M42 are most likely false hits where yhaplo didn't get enough data.

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    1_AITI_119 R-L2            R-L2            R1b1a2a1a2b1             
    2_AITI_120 R-L2            R-L2            R1b1a2a1a2b1             
    3_AITI_2 BT-M94          BT-M42          BT                       
    32_AITI_3_d A               A               A                        
    28_AITI_32_d A               A               A                        
    29_AITI_33_d A               A               A                        
    30_AITI_35_d A               A               A                        
    4_AITI_36 CT-Z17711       CT-M168         CT                       
    31_AITI_37_d A               A               A                        
    5_AITI_40 R-L2            R-L2            R1b1a2a1a2b1             
    6_AITI_43 BT-M94          BT-M42          BT                       
    36_AITI_5_d A               A               A                        
    7_AITI_50 BT-M94          BT-M42          BT                       
    33_AITI_51_d CT-M5690        CT-M168         CT                       
    34_AITI_53_d A               A               A                        
    35_AITI_55_d A               A               A                        
    37_AITI_62A_d A               A               A                        
    38_AITI_62B_d A               A               A                        
    39_AITI_65adult_d A               A               A                        
    40_AITI_65child_d A               A               A                        
    41_AITI_66_d A               A               A                        
    8_AITI_70 R-V75.2         R-V75.2         R1b1a2a1a2c1g2a1a2b1     
    9_AITI_72 BT-M299         BT-M42          BT                       
    42_AITI_77A_d A               A               A                        
    43_AITI_77B_d A               A               A                        
    10_AITI_78 BT-M94          BT-M42          BT                       
    11_AITI_86 R-P224          R-M207          R                        
    44_AITI_87_d A               A               A                        
    45_AITI_92_d A               A               A                        
    46_AITI_95_d A               A               A                        
    12_AITI_98 R-P312          R-P312          R1b1a2a1a2               
    47_ALT_1_d A               A               A                        
    48_ALT_2_d A               A               A                        
    49_ALT_3_d A               A               A                        
    50_ALT_4_d R-P310          R-P311          R1b1a2a1a                
    51_AMP_1_d R-PF6495        R-M269          R1b1a2                   
    52_FMW_d A               A               A                        
    53_HUGO_167_d BT-Z11984       BT-M42          BT                       
    54_HUGO_168_d A0-T-L1105      A0-T-L1085      A0-T                     
    55_HUGO_169Sk1_d G-M3267         G-P287          G2                       
    56_HUGO_171_d A               A               A                        
    57_HUGO_180Sk1_d R-L743          R-L743          R1b1a2a1a2c1k1a1a        
    58_HUGO_180Sk2_d R-PF6495        R-M269          R1b1a2                   
    59_HUGO_190_d A               A               A                        
    60_OBKR_117_d I-L258          I-L258          I1a1b3a1                 
    61_OBKR_2_d A               A               A                        
    62_OBKR_47_d A               A               A                        
    63_OBKR_50_d J-PF4524        J-M304          J                        
    66_OBKR_6_d A               A               A                        
    64_OBKR_66_d A               A               A                        
    65_OBKR_67_d R-M343          R-M343          R1b                      
    67_OBKR_73_d A               A               A                        
    68_OBKR_76_d A               A               A                        
    13_OBKR_80 BT-M94          BT-M42          BT                       
    69_OBKR_81_d A               A               A                        
    70_OBKR_82_d A               A               A                        
    71_OBKR_84_d A               A               A                        
    72_OBKR_86_d R-M343          R-M343          R1b                      
    73_OBKR_93_d A               A               A                        
    74_OBKR_95_d A               A               A                        
    75_OBKR_96_d A               A               A                        
    76_OBKR_9A_d G-Z16575        G-Z7947         G2a1a1a1a1a1b1           
    77_OTTM_100_d A               A               A                        
    78_OTTM_109_d A               A               A                        
    79_OTTM_110_d A               A               A                        
    80_OTTM_141_d A               A               A                        
    14_OTTM_141A A               A               A                        
    81_OTTM_142_d A               A               A                        
    82_OTTM_151ind1_d A               A               A                        
    83_OTTM_151ind2_d BT-Z11985       BT-M42          BT                       
    84_OTTM_152_d A               A               A                        
    15_OTTM_154 BT-M9001        BT-M42          BT                       
    16_OTTM_156 IJK-L16         IJK-L15         IJK                      
    85_OTTM_165_d A               A               A                        
    86_OTTM_79_d A               A               A                        
    87_OTTM_81_d A               A               A                        
    88_OTTM_84_d A               A               A                        
    89_OTTM_87_d E-Y1193.2       E-M132          E1a                      
    90_OTTM_91_d A               A               A                        
    91_OTTM_92_d A               A               A                        
    92_OTTM_94_d A               A               A                        
    93_OTTM_97_d A               A               A                        
    98_POST_1_d A               A               A                        
    94_POST_12_d A               A               A                        
    95_POST_131_d A               A               A                        
    96_POST_140_d BT-M9069        BT-M42          BT                       
    97_POST_16_d A               A               A                        
    99_POST_2_d A1-L1112        A1-P305         A1                       
    17_POST_28 R-P312          R-P312          R1b1a2a1a2               
    100_POST_32_d A               A               A                        
    101_POST_35_d A               A               A                        
    18_POST_44 BT-M94          BT-M42          BT                       
    19_POST_47 D-M179          D-M55           D1b                      
    20_POST_50 BT-M94          BT-M42          BT                       
    21_POST_6 BT-M94          BT-M42          BT                       
    102_POST_85_d A               A               A                        
    103_POST_99_d A               A               A                        
    104_UNTA121_FK61_d A               A               A                        
    105_UNTA58_147_d A               A               A                        
    106_UNTA58_149_d BT-M9242        BT-M42          BT                       
    107_UNTA58_152_d A               A               A                        
    22_UNTA58_153 R-L23           R-L23           R1b1a2a                  
    108_UNTA58_67_d C-K520          C-K516          C2e2a1                   
    23_UNTA58_68Sk1 BT-M94          BT-M42          BT                       
    109_UNTA58_68Sk2_d A               A               A                        
    110_UNTA85_1336_d A               A               A                        
    24_UNTA85_1343 BT-M94          BT-M42          BT                       
    25_UNTA85_1412 R-L150.1        R-M269          R1b1a2                   
    111_UNTA89_FK231_d A               A               A                        
    26_WEHR_1192SkA BT-M94          BT-M42          BT                       
    112_WEHR_1192SkB_d F-P158          F-M89           F                        
    113_WEHR_1193_d A               A               A                        
    114_WEHR_1414_d BT-M9214        BT-M42          BT                       
    115_WEHR_1415adult_d A               A               A                        
    27_WEHR_1415child R-L2            R-L2            R1b1a2a1a2b1             
    116_WEHR_1474_d G-M3609         G-M201          G                        
    117_WEHR_1564_d CT-M5782        CT-M168         CT                       
    118_WEHR_1586_d A               A               A
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