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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Hades View Post
    Pretty much just means populations that are a blend of Anatolian farmer + CHG + Natufian HG.

    Although on the North side of the East Med it was more like Anatolian farmer + CHG + Steppe EMBA.
    East med=ANF+Iran N/Levant PPNB and CHG.

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    Possible Remains of Hungarian King Andrew I Found in Tihany

    The excavation in the crypt of the Abbey of Tihany, where the tomb of the Hungarian king, Andrew I, can be found, has been completed. Archeologists have discovered bones presumably belonging to Hungary’s medieval royal family, the Árpád dynasty.

    At a press conference in Tihany on Monday, lead anthropologist Ágoston Takács noted that the bones collected in the crypt are most likely the remains of the founder of the abbey, King Andrew I, or one of his relatives. Over the centuries, many have been buried in the crypt whose identification based on the bones is not easy, however, once the age and sex have been determined, it will become clear whether the remains in question belong to a member of the Árpád family. The DNA-survey of the bones is expected to bear results by September. (...) The Abbey of Tihany is important for linguistic reasons as well, as its founding charter, issued in 1055, is the first scattered record of the Hungarian language.

    https://hungarytoday.hu/tihany-king-...mb-excavation/

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    If the remains are of Andrew, he hopefully shares the R1a that was found in Béla; his mother's family is local Hungarian, but not very well known.

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    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021...-family-groups

    Ancient genomes offer rare glimpse of Neanderthal family groups

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    Quote Originally Posted by rozenfeld View Post
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021...-family-groups

    Ancient genomes offer rare glimpse of Neanderthal family groups
    Unbelievable, fantastic!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rozenfeld View Post
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021...-family-groups

    Ancient genomes offer rare glimpse of Neanderthal family groups
    Its remarkable how they still ignore the elephant in the room: Human groups did compete and there were constant replacements, especially of the males, by newly incoming and conquering people. And apparently, this was the case even before fully modern humans, because these Neandertals show the same pattern. A modern human lineage spread up to Siberia, most likely spreading new genetic and cultural innovations, while the female mtDNA diversity stood high. That's a clear signal and little bit more than just the usual patrilocality of married couples. Its also a massive blow against that "invented patriarchy" nonsense, because its a human trait which was very important for our evolution in a positive way, exactly by spreading innovations on both the cultural and genetic level.

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    Τα μυστικά της Αρχαίας Θεσσαλονίκης – Η ανάλυση 4.500 σκελετών
    Κατά τη διάρκεια των εργασιών για την κατασκευή του Μετρό Θεσσαλονίκης, οι ανασκαφές στα δύο αρχαία νεκροταφεία της πόλης έφεραν στο φως χιλιάδες σκελετούς. Ο αρχαιολογικός θησαυρός μεταφέρθηκε στο Εργαστήριο Φυσικής Ανθρωπολογίας στην Κομοτηνή για να μελετηθεί σε βάθος.
    https://www.kathimerini.gr/visual/56...-500-skeleton/

    Translation:

    The Secrets of Ancient Thessaloniki: Analysis of 4,500 Skeletons
    During the construction of the Thessaloniki Metro, excavations of two ancient cemeteries revealed thousands of skeletons. These archaeological treasures were transferred to the Laboratory of Natural Anthropology in Komotini for in-depth study.

    Here's a Youtube video of the scientists involved (some of whom are people who worked on the Aegean Palatial paper) talking about the project:


    I've criticized the Greek labs before for some shoddy conclusions, but this is a goldmine of samples so I don't really care what they say about them as long as they make the samples available.
    Ελευθερία ή θάνατος.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michalis Moriopoulos View Post
    I've criticized the Greek labs before for some shoddy conclusions, but this is a goldmine of samples so I don't really care what they say about them as long as they make the samples available.
    Indeed. What's the time horizon for the cemeteries? I can sometimes understand a little bit of various European languages, but Greek is not among them. Watching the video, I just understood they check for diseases and habits etc., but other than that nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverman View Post
    Indeed. What's the time horizon for the cemeteries? I can sometimes understand a little bit of various European languages, but Greek is not among them. Watching the video, I just understood they check for diseases and habits etc., but other than that nothing.
    They say from the foundation of the city towards late/post-Byzantine times. They said they will analyze DNA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverman View Post
    Indeed. What's the time horizon for the cemeteries?
    From the classical period and beyond the Byzantine era.
    Ελευθερία ή θάνατος.

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