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    Any idea when the results from these papers(?) are going to come out?

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    Very curious to the Y-dna of the Swiss samples (POA-236).

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    Very interested in this one:

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    The Genomics of Megaliths: An Irish case study into the reconstruction of prehistoric societal landscapes through ancient DNA analysis

    Lara M Cassidy 1

    1 Trinity College Dublin (Ireland)

    The Irish Neolithic (circa 3,800-2,500) marks the emergence of complex civilization on the island, alongside the establishment of continued contacts with other Atlantic regions, which intensify in the succeeding Copper and Bronze Ages. In addition to these cultural upheavals, the Neolithic period has been demonstrated to both begin and end with mass migration into the island, potentially from multiple external sources. However, the variable interplay between geography and culture in the catalyzation of these population movements has remained an open question. Indeed, the archaeological record would suggest regional heterogeneity in the uptake of British and continental traditions at both transition points.

    Here, the potential social and cultural implications of such events are explored through the prism of ancient genomics. Imputed diploid genotypes for over 50 individuals sampled from the Mesolithic to Bronze Age periods, encompassing a diversity of megalithic structures, are presented and dissected through the use of haplotypic-sharing methods, as well as estimations of kinship and inbreeding. Combined with Y chromosome analysis these provide the first evidence of genetic structure on the island during specific prehistoric time intervals, which can be interpreted along both geographical and cultural lines. Furthermore, candidate refugiums that may recurrently act as reservoirs for older traditions and genetic ancestries are identified, as well as hub regions, which appear more susceptible to demographic disturbances on the continent, highlighting the immovable constraints of geography on both cultural and genomic evolution.
    Very curious about the part I put in bold above. Pretty obviously they are talking about the arrival of Neolithic farmers at the start of the Neolithic and of Kurgan Bell Beaker people at the end of it. I just want to see how that played out genomically and how extensive population replacement was in both cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pylsteen View Post
    Very curious to the Y-dna of the Swiss samples (POA-236).
    Yes me too. I can only assume the results will be similar to the Bell Beaker YDNA (largely P312+) as they came to a similar overall conclusion.
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    thanks rozenfeld for sharing this
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    POB-162 Phenotype and phylogeny of Neolithic Japanese hunter-gatherers, Jomon people, based on whole nuclear genome sequences

    Hideaki Kanzawa-Kiriyama 1 , Timothy Jinam 2, Yoshuke Kawai 3, Takehiro Sato 4, Kazuyoshi Hosomichi 4, Atsushi Tajima 4, Kryukov Kirill 5, Noboru Adachi 6, Naruya Saitou 2, 7, Ken-ichi Shinoda 1

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    Funadomari Jomon are 3,500-3,800 year-old northern Japanese hunter-gatherer. Here, we determined high depth and low depth nuclear genome sequences from Funadomari Jomon female (F23) and male (F5). F5 belongs to Y chromosome haplogroup D1b2b, which is rare haplogroup in modern Japanese. We genotyped the genome of F23, and HLA class-I type (homozygous for A*24:02:01, B*15:01:01, and C*03:03:01) and many phenotypic traits (e.g. non-shovel shape incisor and wet-type earwax) were determined. We observed high HBD similar to modern southern Native Americans, but long HBD tracts longer than 10cM is small, suggesting no close consanguineous mating but small population size in northern Jomon populations. MSMC analysis also suggested their small population size for more than 10,000 years. Phylogenetic relationship between F23 and modern/ancient Eurasians and Native Americans showed a deep divergence of F23 in East Eurasia, probably before the split of the ancestor of Native Americans from East Eurasians, but after the split of 40,000-year-old Tianyuan. This indicates that Northern Jomon people are genetically isolated from continental East Eurasians for long time. Intriguingly, we found that not only modern three Japanese (Ainu, mainland Japanese, and Ryukyuan) but also Ulchi, Koreans, the aboriginal Taiwanese and the Philippines are genetically closer to F23 compared to Han Chinese at the significant level (Z>3). These informations are one of a key to reconstruct ancient population structure and history in East Eurasia.

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    finally some ancient D for godsake .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADW_1981 View Post
    Yes me too. I can only assume the results will be similar to the Bell Beaker YDNA (largely P312+) as they came to a similar overall conclusion.
    I agree with you, but I find it curious that the abstract mentions Corded Ware and says nothing about Kurgan Bell Beaker.

    . . . In the 3rd millennium BP a second migration into Central Europe occurred originating from the Pontic steppe linked to the spread of the Corded Ware Complex ranging as far southwest as modern day Switzerland . . . Here, we investigate genomic data from 69 individuals from the Swiss Plateau and Southern Germany that span the transition of the Neolithic to the Bronze Age (5500 to 4000 BP). Our results show a similar genetic process as reported for the Middle-Elbe-Saale region suggesting that the migration from the Pontic steppe reached all the way into the Swiss plateau . . .
    So, apparently they've included samples from southern Germany, as well as Switzerland, but I wonder about the emphasis on Corded Ware.

    We know, for example, that about 2425 BC there was a destruction phase at Sion in Switzerland and at nearby Aosta in northern Italy connected to the arrival of Kurgan Bell Beaker people from the east (Harrison and Heyd, 2007). The results from Olalde et al showed y-dna R1b-M269 and R1b-L151 and steppe dna from skeletons in one of the first post-destruction burial cists.

    Anyway, this new paper should be interesting. (I think they meant "In the 3rd millennium BC" rather than BP.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    I agree with you, but I find it curious that the abstract mentions Corded Ware and says nothing about Kurgan Bell Beaker.



    So, apparently they've included samples from southern Germany, as well as Switzerland, but I wonder about the emphasis on Corded Ware.

    We know, for example, that about 2425 BC there was a destruction phase at Sion in Switzerland and at nearby Aosta in northern Italy connected to the arrival of Kurgan Bell Beaker people from the east (Harrison and Heyd, 2007). The results from Olalde et al showed y-dna R1b-M269 and R1b-L151 and steppe dna from skeletons in one of the first post-destruction burial cists.

    Anyway, this new paper should be interesting. (I think they meant "In the 3rd millennium BC" rather than BP.)
    The big archaeological difference is that in Sion, Bell Beaker replace local Copper Age groups, whereas in other places in Switzerland Southern Germany, Bell Beaker replaced Corded Ware. The arrival of Bell Beaker to the north of the Alps also sees the abandonment of Corded Ware lake villages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.Rocca View Post
    The big archaeological difference is that in Sion, Bell Beaker replace local Copper Age groups, whereas in other places in Switzerland Southern Germany, Bell Beaker replaced Corded Ware. The arrival of Bell Beaker to the north of the Alps also sees the abandonment of Corded Ware lake villages.
    Was the replacement of Corded Ware by Bell Beaker there earlier than the destruction phase at Sion and Aosta, c. 2425 BC?

    This upcoming paper is supposed to include samples extending from 5500 to 4000 BP (about 3500 BC to 2000 BC). It will be interesting to see what they catch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    Was the replacement of Corded Ware by Bell Beaker there earlier than the destruction phase at Sion and Aosta, c. 2425 BC?

    This upcoming paper is supposed to include samples extending from 5500 to 4000 BP (about 3500 BC to 2000 BC). It will be interesting to see what they catch.
    I have the book in storage, but I think it happened around the same time.
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    Medieval graves were discovered by Polish archaeologists in Sicily - http://naukawpolsce.pap.pl/aktualnos...a-sycylii.html

    The burials from over eight hundred years were discovered by Polish archaeologists during excavations next to the medieval church of San Michele del Golfo in Sicily near Palermo. According to scientists, they could belong to the Normans, or descendants of the Vikings.

    "Some of the dead buried in the cemetery undoubtedly belonged to representatives of the elite or the clergy, as indicated by the form of some graves" - told PAP head of excavations of Prof. Sławomir Moździoch from the Institute of Archeology and Ethnology of the Polish Academy of Sciences in Wroclaw.

    This year, archaeologists came across a total of 10 burials, including three women and two children. Other skeletons were difficult to identify. According to the discoverers, it was a cemetery associated with a church hospital mentioned in a document from the 12th century. Unfortunately, no equipment was found in any of the graves.

    However, it was possible to predetermine the origin of the dead - there are many indications that they were visitors from western Europe (northern France) - Normans, or descendants of the Vikings.

    "According to the local anthropologist, this is the origin of high growth and massive construction of skeletons of people buried here," says the scientist. This is not a great surprise for researchers.

    "In the second half of the 11th century, the island was recaptured from the hands of the Arabs by the Norman ruler - Roger from the Hauteville family," explains the scientist. Interestingly, the defensive church began to appear before the reflection of nearby Palermo from the hands of Muslims. That's why the construction was erected on a hill in a strategic place. It was a trapezoidal building, one nave, erected on a cruciform plan.

    This is not the first research season of Poles in Sicily. During the last year's research, also burials were found. Researchers learned the results of the first DNA analyzes made by prof. Wojciech Branicki from the Jagiellonian University. "These findings go hand in hand with our concept of + the northern + pedigree of the church and the buried deceased, because it shows that the deceased had lighter shades of skin, hair and eyes compared to the then dominant communities in Sicily," explained Professor . Moździoch.

    Excavations were also carried out inside the ruins of a medieval church. "The Western European form of the church, its architecture, but also the finds of coins minted in Champagne or Lucca, indicate that its builders and users could have been visitors from Normandy and the north of the Apennine peninsula," the excavation director believes. Previous research confirms earlier findings of researchers that the temple was founded in the twelfth century

    "Our research so far has changed the existing conceptions about the construction of the church, indicating that it had a form referring more to the western European churches of the 11th and 12th centuries than to the buildings of this type originating in Sicily at the time. craftsmen imported from there "- sums up prof. Moździoch.

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