Genetic Genealogy & Ancient DNA in the News (DISCUSSION ONLY)

[peloponnesian]

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Could you check the G2a samples as well, if it's not too much trouble? Thanks

[Pribislav]

Would you be able to check the Y-DNA J Middle Neolithic sample from Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja, Osijek as well please?

Also if possible could you clear your PM inbox?

Done and done. POP04 belongs to the same clade as the previously published Sopot sample (I5078):

POP04; 4700-4300 BC; Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja, Osijek; Croatia; Sopot_MN; J2a-Z36834>Z36829* (xZ36800)


Z36834 level: Z36834+ G>A (1A)

Z36829 level: Z36833+ T>C (1C)

Z36800 level: 22 ancestral SNPs

[J Man]

Done and done. POP04 belongs to the same clade as the previously published Sopot sample (I5078):

POP04; 4700-4300 BC; Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja, Osijek; Croatia; Sopot_MN; J2a-Z36834>Z36829* (xZ36800)


Z36834 level: Z36834+ G>A (1A)

Z36829 level: Z36833+ T>C (1C)

Z36800 level: 22 ancestral SNPs

Thanks!....The question now is this. Are POP04 and I5078 actually the same sample from different papers with different codes? Or are they actually two different separate samples?

[Principe]

Thanks!....The question now is this. Are POP04 and I5078 actually the same sample from different papers with different codes? Or are they actually two different separate samples?

And there we have it again J-Z6057 was major in the Neolithic Balkans!

[Pribislav]

Thanks!....The question now is this. Are POP04 and I5078 actually the same sample from different papers with different codes? Or are they actually two different separate samples?

Those two are different samples, location of I5078 is Hermanov vinograd, and location of POP04 is Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja.

[J Man]

Those two are different samples, location of I5078 is Hermanov vinograd, and location of POP04 is Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja.

Ahhh great thanks!

[Pribislav]

Could you check the G2a samples as well, if it's not too much trouble? Thanks

POP30: G2a2a-PF3147>Z36520>Z36525>pre-Z45700

POP33: G2a2b-P303>CTS796>L140>PF3346>PF3345 (xCTS342,L497,Z39367,BY1433,L1266,L13)

POP36: G2a2a-PF3147>PF3148 (xFGC34436,L91,FGC6669,FGC34725)

JAG06, JAG34, JAG58, JAG78 and JAG82: G2a2a-L91>Z6484>Z6284>Z6128>Y140837>pre-Y140827

POP35: C1a2-V20>V86>Y83490>pre-F16270

[Pribislav]

POP07 and POP24 are M223+ and Y3259-, so I checked the SNPs at FT355000 level, formed by two Mesolithic Grotta Continenza samples (R7 and R15). As expected, POP07 and POP24 belong to that clade, and will in fact split that level.


POP07; 4790-4558 BC; Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja, Osijek; Croatia; Sopot_MN; I2a2a-M223>pre-FT355000

FT355000 level: FT355004+ T>A (3A); FT355005+ T>C (1C); FT355000- C>T (3C); FT355001- C>T (3C); FT355002- G>T (2G); FT355003- A>T (1A)


POP24; 4700-4300 BC; Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja, Osijek; Croatia; Sopot_MN; I2a2a-M223>pre-FT355000

FT355000 level: FT355005+ T>C (2C); FT355006+ C>A (1A); FT355002- G>T (1G); FT355003- A>T (2A);

[peloponnesian]

POP30: G2a2a-PF3147>Z36520>Z36525>pre-Z45700

POP33: G2a2b-P303>CTS796>L140>PF3346>PF3345 (xCTS342,L497,Z39367,BY1433,L1266,L13)

POP36: G2a2a-PF3147>PF3148 (xFGC34436,L91,FGC6669,FGC34725)

JAG06, JAG34, JAG58, JAG78 and JAG82: G2a2a-L91>Z6484>Z6284>Z6128>Y140837>pre-Y140827

POP35: C1a2-V20>V86>Y83490>pre-F16270

Thanks a lot!

[J Man]

And there we have it again J-Z6057 was major in the Neolithic Balkans!

So yes then now we have two Neolithic J-Z6057 samples from the Sopot culture! Of course we also have the Neolithic J-Z6057 sample(s) from Italy as well. Really interesting stuff!