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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
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    Could you check the G2a samples as well, if it's not too much trouble? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    Would you be able to check the Y-DNA J Middle Neolithic sample from Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja, Osijek as well please?

    Also if possible could you clear your PM inbox?
    Done and done. POP04 belongs to the same clade as the previously published Sopot sample (I5078):

    POP04; 4700-4300 BC; Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja, Osijek; Croatia; Sopot_MN; J2a-Z36834>Z36829* (xZ36800)


    Z36834 level: Z36834+ G>A (1A)

    Z36829 level: Z36833+ T>C (1C)

    Z36800 level: 22 ancestral SNPs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Done and done. POP04 belongs to the same clade as the previously published Sopot sample (I5078):

    POP04; 4700-4300 BC; Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja, Osijek; Croatia; Sopot_MN; J2a-Z36834>Z36829* (xZ36800)


    Z36834 level: Z36834+ G>A (1A)

    Z36829 level: Z36833+ T>C (1C)

    Z36800 level: 22 ancestral SNPs
    Thanks!....The question now is this. Are POP04 and I5078 actually the same sample from different papers with different codes? Or are they actually two different separate samples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    Thanks!....The question now is this. Are POP04 and I5078 actually the same sample from different papers with different codes? Or are they actually two different separate samples?
    And there we have it again J-Z6057 was major in the Neolithic Balkans!
    My Y Line: J2a-L210>Y15245
    My Maternal Y: R-Z36>Y156527
    My Paternal Grandmother's Y: R-U152>L2
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    Thanks!....The question now is this. Are POP04 and I5078 actually the same sample from different papers with different codes? Or are they actually two different separate samples?
    Those two are different samples, location of I5078 is Hermanov vinograd, and location of POP04 is Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Those two are different samples, location of I5078 is Hermanov vinograd, and location of POP04 is Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja.
    Ahhh great thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peloponnesian View Post
    Could you check the G2a samples as well, if it's not too much trouble? Thanks

    POP30: G2a2a-PF3147>Z36520>Z36525>pre-Z45700

    POP33: G2a2b-P303>CTS796>L140>PF3346>PF3345 (xCTS342,L497,Z39367,BY1433,L1266,L13)

    POP36: G2a2a-PF3147>PF3148 (xFGC34436,L91,FGC6669,FGC34725)

    JAG06, JAG34, JAG58, JAG78 and JAG82: G2a2a-L91>Z6484>Z6284>Z6128>Y140837>pre-Y140827

    POP35: C1a2-V20>V86>Y83490>pre-F16270

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    POP07 and POP24 are M223+ and Y3259-, so I checked the SNPs at FT355000 level, formed by two Mesolithic Grotta Continenza samples (R7 and R15). As expected, POP07 and POP24 belong to that clade, and will in fact split that level.


    POP07; 4790-4558 BC; Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja, Osijek; Croatia; Sopot_MN; I2a2a-M223>pre-FT355000

    FT355000 level: FT355004+ T>A (3A); FT355005+ T>C (1C); FT355000- C>T (3C); FT355001- C>T (3C); FT355002- G>T (2G); FT355003- A>T (1A)


    POP24; 4700-4300 BC; Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja, Osijek; Croatia; Sopot_MN; I2a2a-M223>pre-FT355000

    FT355000 level: FT355005+ T>C (2C); FT355006+ C>A (1A); FT355002- G>T (1G); FT355003- A>T (2A);
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    Quote Originally Posted by Principe View Post
    And there we have it again J-Z6057 was major in the Neolithic Balkans!
    So yes then now we have two Neolithic J-Z6057 samples from the Sopot culture! Of course we also have the Neolithic J-Z6057 sample(s) from Italy as well. Really interesting stuff!

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