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    E1a1 among Ashkenazi Jews

    I'm of Ashkenazi Jewish background and I learned ,after a 23andme DNA test, that my Y-DNA haplogroup is E1a1(E-M33/M44). Now this is weird because I know that this haplogroup is not very common among Jews at all, and its highest frequencies are found in West Africa (and particularly among the Dogon people of Mali). I have almost 0% Sub-Saharan African autosomal ancestry (I only have 0,1% East African [but NOT West African!] "ancestry" according to my "conservative" ancestry painting), yet I tested positive for this (arguably) very "SSA-ish" marker! I'm rather confused right now, because I couldn't find a satisfying source explaining how and when such an haplogroup entered the Ashkenazi Jewish gene pool. Do any of you guys have any ideas and/or theories concerning the presence of E-M44 among Ashkenazi Jews?
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    maybe this could help
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...t?pref=2&pli=1
    some clades of e1a1 are old
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    It probably spread out of africa into the near east along with E-V68.

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    It's present in North Africa as well as other Mediterranean populations (like Sardinians).
    Paternal Y-DNA haplogroup: E-M35>E-Z827>L19>M81>M183
    Maternal [grandfather] Y-DNA: E-M35>E-Z827>L19>M81>M183>PF2477>PF2546
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    My uncle has an Ashkenazi match with E1a1, the match has ancestry from Hungary/Slovakia and the Baltic..

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    Another possibility is from Mali to Iberia and to the Jewish Community just like several other Iberian or Northern African groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    maybe this could help
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...t?pref=2&pli=1
    some clades of e1a1 are old
    regards
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    Thanks a lot for the link!
    It seems that Ashkenazi E1a1 lines are closest to Lebanese (Druze) ones and that they are anciently connected (dating back to at least 5.0 kya!). I wonder if this marker could have been one of the haplogroups of the Natufians (along with E-M34/M123)...
    Only time and ancient DNA samples will tell.

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    Well this is interesting. I just tested my friend and his y-DNA haplogroup is the same.

    Maternal Haplogroup

    J1c7a



    Paternal Haplogroup


    E1a1






    I know maternal lineages are important for Jewish people, can anyone give me any insight? I'm going to see him in a few hours and would like to give some nice explanations. I'll post his results in calculators in some other threads.
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    J1c7a is likely Baltic or Scandinavian. As far as I know, all the attested non-Ashkenazi J1c7a's out there are Swedish, Finnish, and Estonian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wandering_amorite View Post
    J1c7a is likely Baltic or Scandinavian. As far as I know, all the attested non-Ashkenazi J1c7a's out there are Swedish, Finnish, and Estonian.
    Thank you! I'm about to add him to the PCA, curious to see how he places relative to yourself!
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