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    Confused by GEDmatch Oceanian

    I tested at ancestry.com. They did not give me any sort of Pacific Islander result. However at GEDmatch, on pretty much every single calculator, I get either Oceanian, Papuan, or Melanesian, and I think they all basically mean the same thing. I am German, Irish, and English; pale as can be. However, much of my family has darker skin than I do. Most of my family lines trace back to 17th century Virginia, Kentucky, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts. I have heard some people saying it may be Romani or Romanichal ancestry, but I don't really have any South Asian. Does anyone have any insight into what this could be? Here are some examples:

    Eurogenes K13:
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    North_Atlantic 41.99
    Baltic 28.21
    West_Med 13.32
    West_Asian 4.67
    East_Med 7.61
    Red_Sea 2.20
    South_Asian 0.24
    East_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.41
    Oceanian 1.23
    Northeast_African 0.12
    Sub-Saharan -

    Eurogenes K15:
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    North_Sea 36.14
    Atlantic 18.40
    Baltic 13.90
    Eastern_Euro 10.48
    West_Med 11.17
    West_Asian 2.60
    East_Med 5.07
    Red_Sea 1.29
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.94
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Eurogenes K9b:
    Population
    Southwest_Asian 8.37
    Native_American 1.11
    Northeast_Asian 1.09
    Mediterranean 17.75
    North_European 69.53
    Southeast_Asian -
    Oceanian 1.32
    South_African -
    Sub-Saharan_African 0.82

    Does anyone have any insights?
    Thank you so very much,
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    At trace amounts that's pretty much the signals found in ane/whg/neo (+steppe) :


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    1.23 % percentage is nothing. Please note that these calculators are not accurate and are based one sample data bases. It does not necessarily mean that you have ancestry from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpb View Post
    I tested at ancestry.com. They did not give me any sort of Pacific Islander result. However at GEDmatch, on pretty much every single calculator, I get either Oceanian, Papuan, or Melanesian, and I think they all basically mean the same thing. I am German, Irish, and English; pale as can be. However, much of my family has darker skin than I do. Most of my family lines trace back to 17th century Virginia, Kentucky, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts. I have heard some people saying it may be Romani or Romanichal ancestry, but I don't really have any South Asian. Does anyone have any insight into what this could be? Here are some examples:

    Eurogenes K13:
    Population
    North_Atlantic 41.99
    Baltic 28.21
    West_Med 13.32
    West_Asian 4.67
    East_Med 7.61
    Red_Sea 2.20
    South_Asian 0.24
    East_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.41
    Oceanian 1.23
    Northeast_African 0.12
    Sub-Saharan -

    Eurogenes K15:
    Population
    North_Sea 36.14
    Atlantic 18.40
    Baltic 13.90
    Eastern_Euro 10.48
    West_Med 11.17
    West_Asian 2.60
    East_Med 5.07
    Red_Sea 1.29
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.94
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Eurogenes K9b:
    Population
    Southwest_Asian 8.37
    Native_American 1.11
    Northeast_Asian 1.09
    Mediterranean 17.75
    North_European 69.53
    Southeast_Asian -
    Oceanian 1.32
    South_African -
    Sub-Saharan_African 0.82

    Does anyone have any insights?
    Thank you so very much,
    J Bower
    These admixture numbers mean .................your "ancestors" either went to that place or came from that place,......................the under 4% is that some went there , but we do not know from where


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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    These admixture numbers mean .................your "ancestors" either went to that place or came from that place,......................the under 4% is that some went there , but we do not know from where
    Hi Vettor :

    Just for the sake of discussion : How about a scenario that they never went there or came from there but he just have some similarities ( tested positive SNPS) that the other population in another geographical area also has.

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    This is an interesting situation. I have known Maori/Polynesian ancestry and get 1.54% on the K13 for example. In your case and specifically due to your ancestry, it's unlikely you had a Polynesian ancestor who was in Europe around that time.
    Ancestry on paper: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Croatian, Ashkenazi, Polish and Māori.

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    Thank you, could it be Romany ancestry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpb View Post
    Thank you, could it be Romany ancestry?
    Maybe, however I don't know Romany genetics that well. Out of curiosity, do you score any Papuan on the PuntDNAL calculators?
    Ancestry on paper: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Croatian, Ashkenazi, Polish and Māori.

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    I do get Oceanian/Papuan on puntDNAL:

    Ancient K10:
    Oceanian 0.89

    Ancient K12:
    Oceanian 0.99

    Modern K12:
    Oceanian 0.99

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    So, a little less than Eurogenes, but it is still definitely there.

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