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    FTDNA Z367 Pack Returns Nothing on L-20??? Thoughts?

    I was really looking forward the results of the new Z367 pack from FTDNA, but my results came back inconclusive, leaving me at L-20 still. Below are my results. Any thoughts on where or what I should be looking to test next.

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    A1773-, A2150-, A274-, A4670-, A517-, A7082-, A7083-, A7084-, BY2171-, BY2823-, BY2868-, BY3554-, BY3555-, BY3556-, BY3557-, BY3558-, BY3559-, BY3560-, BY3561-, BY3562-, BY3563-, BY3564-, BY3565-, BY3566-, BY3567-, BY3568-, BY3569-, BY3570-, BY3571-, BY3572-, BY3573-, BY3574-, BY3575-, BY3576-, BY3577-, BY3578-, BY3579-, BY3580-, BY3581-, BY3582-, BY3583-, BY3584-, BY3585-, BY3586-, BY3587-, BY3588-, BY3589-, BY3590-, BY3591-, BY3592-, BY3593-, BY3594-, BY3596-, BY3597-, BY3598-, BY3599-, BY3600-, BY3601-, BY3603-, BY3604-, BY5688-, BY5689-, BY5690 *, BY5691 *, BY575-, BY653-, CTS10429-, CTS1073-, CTS11514-, CTS11567-, CTS11994-, CTS1751-, CTS3386-, CTS3937-, CTS4069-, CTS4466-, CTS4528-, CTS5330-, CTS5689-, CTS6937-, CTS7763-, CTS9044-, CTS9733-, DF103-, DF110-, DF17-, DF19-, DF21-, DF41-, DF49-, DF63-, DF81-, DF83-, DF88-, DF95-, DF99-, F2017-, F2691-, F2863-, FGC10516-, FGC11134-, FGC13620-, FGC17181-, FGC17183-, FGC17184-, FGC17185-, FGC17186-, FGC17188-, FGC17189-, FGC17190-, FGC17193-, FGC17194-, FGC17196-, FGC17199-, FGC17203-, FGC20759-, FGC20761-, FGC22501-, FGC3861-, FGC396-, FGC5301-, FGC5344-, FGC5345-, FGC5351-, FGC5354-, FGC5356-, FGC5367-, FGC5373-, FGC5494-, FGC5798-, L1335-, L2+, L20+, L21-, L23+, L238-, L278+, L371-, L389+, L408-, L47-, L48-, L51+, L513-, L584-, L617-, L881-, M1994-, M222-, M269+, M335-, M343+, M73-, MC14-, P297+, P310+, P311+, P312+, PF3252-, PF6610-, PF6627-, PF6629-, PF6630 *, PF6631-, PF6658 *, PF6714-, PF7562-, PF7589-, PF7600-, PF7623-, PR4567-, S1026-, S1051-, S10708-, S11493-, S11601-, S11761-, S12025-, S1505-, S15633-, S1567-, S1595-, S1601-, S1603-, S1605 *, S1610-, S16264-, S1688-, S18632-, S18827-, S20363-, S7721-, S9635-, SRY2627-, U106-, U152+, U198-, V88-, Y15103-, Y15104-, Y15105-, Y15106-, Y15107-, Y15108-, Y5058-, Y6789-, Y6790-, Y6791-, Y6792-, YSC0000193-, Z16500-, Z17-, Z17300-, Z18-, Z1862-, Z1910-, Z1911-, Z195-, Z198-, Z209-, Z2103-, Z2109-, Z225-, Z251-, Z253-, Z2542-, Z255-, Z257-, Z2573-, Z259-, Z275-, Z276-, Z291 *, Z295-, Z296-, Z29991-, Z3000-, Z301-, Z302-, Z326-, Z33-, Z34-, Z36-, Z367+, Z381-, Z383+, Z384+, Z49-, Z8-, Z8052-, Z9-

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    You are positive for these SNPs:

    U152+, L2+, L20+, L23+, L278+, L389+, L51+, M269+, M343+, P297+, P310+, P311+, P312+,Z367+, Z383+, Z384+

    On myFTDNA look at your Haplotree & SNPs results and you can see where you are: R>U152>L2>L20>Z384
    FTDNA Big-Y SNP Results: R1b-U152+, L2+, Z367+, Z384+, L20+, CTS9733+, S10068+, BY33970

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    But isn't Z384 one level higher than L20, ie Z384 -> L20? Plus it's hard to believe my terminal SNP is Z384?
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    Sorry I meant Z383. If you click on "more..." after the L20, it then shows Z383 which you tested positive for. I have the same issue with YSC0000193 - which I tested positive for - but which is not yet declared a terminal SNP so my Haplogroup is R-CTS9733. But YSC0000193 is downstream of it.
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    FTDNA Big-Y SNP Results: R1b-U152+, L2+, Z367+, Z384+, L20+, CTS9733+, S10068+, BY33970

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    No worries. I appreciate you taking the time to look and respond.
    Gregory S MacBeth Haplogroup:L20

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    This might interest you. Richard Rocca of R1b.org maintains an unofficial U152 haplotree at: http:www.r1b.org/docs/Full_Y-Chromos...2_Samples.xlsx

    This is a screen shot of what he has for your portion of L20:
    Richard Rocca U152 - L20.jpg
    Last edited by Celt_??; 08-07-2016 at 05:45 PM.
    FTDNA Big-Y SNP Results: R1b-U152+, L2+, Z367+, Z384+, L20+, CTS9733+, S10068+, BY33970

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt_?? View Post
    This might interest you. Richard Rocca of R1b.org maintains an unofficial U152 haplotree at: http:www.r1b.org/docs/Full_Y-Chromos...2_Samples.xlsx

    This is a screen shot of what he has for your portion of L20:
    Richard Rocca U152 - L20.jpg
    Since January of this year Richard no longer updates his tree. Data used to create his tree is being transfered to Alex Williamson's Bigtree http://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php...441&star=false
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    Here is what FTDNA shows for my Haplogroup data
    Screen Shot 2016-08-07 at 6.01.57 PM.png
    And here is what the U152 shows for what I need to do, but I have already tested Z291 & BY5690 as they were in the Z367 kit. My kit is B75726.
    Screen Shot 2016-08-07 at 6.01.26 PM.png

    So what kind of recommendation would the group make?
    Gregory S MacBeth Haplogroup:L20

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    Interesting you are in the same group with Dr. FAux. .
    with Ours 23andme tests in 2008..We Belgieri and Faux .. we discovered the L20 SNP after all two we were L20+

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    I agree. My wife and her family jokes that I was hatched and are part lizard because I don't sweat profusely in the summer heat. Maybe that's why I am not not fitting into a neatly defined Haplogroup. . But seriously, I am open to suggestions on what to try next? I have even tested for CTS9733 independent of the Z367 pack.

    So any and all suggestions are appreciated.
    Gregory S MacBeth Haplogroup:L20

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