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    L176.2 & SRY2627 (DF27>Z196>L176.2) & L165 too

    SRY2627 has been known for some time and also goes by the name M167. It has its highest frequencies in Southwest Europe, particularly along the Pyrenees and Catalonia. However, it is also found all the way over into Germany/Poland and Scandinavia as well as the British Isles.





    SRY2627 has brothers under the L176.2 umbrella including L176.2* and L165 people. A newly discovered SNP, CTS4188, also appears to be a brother under L176.2 Also, it has been discovered that Z262 is immediately upstream of SRY2627 so we now have Z262* people.

    R1b-SRY2627 & L176.2 project: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/...ction=yresults

    R1b-L164 project: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/...ction=yresults
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    This is a old map. Has any new data came in and is King Tut of our group?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brousse View Post
    This is a old map. Has any new data came in and is King Tut of our group?
    No, and it probably never will. The Egyptian Government wouldn't release something like this. They aren't exactly found of the West and to have a Western haplogroup show up as Tut's signature (if it is infact his dna) likely didn't go over well.

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    A R1b1 in the wood pile lol

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    Without politicising the thread too much and keeping it focused on the topic:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Isaack View Post
    No, and it probably never will. The Egyptian Government wouldn't release something like this. They aren't exactly found of the West and to have a Western haplogroup show up as Tut's signature (if it is infact his dna) likely didn't go over well.
    The government of Mubarak (pre-revolution/Muslim Brotherhood) was broadly pro-Western partially because of the amount of financial support the US shipped in their direction. I keep reading online that the Dept. of Antiquities in Egypt was, in turn, generally approving of Mubarak's regime. If those factoids are correct in sequence, then we would've naturally expected Tut's results to have been released at that time.

    I don't think anything regarding Tut's Y-DNA will be released any time soon specifically because the Muslim Brotherhood has greater priorities, both politically (building a new political scene post-Mubarak) and arguably ideologically (discovering the ultimate roots of a pre-Islamic polytheistic adolescent Pharaoh isn't important to the predominantly Muslim Egypt of today).

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    No new data so far. The map is actually not that old when you look at how slow things can move at times. I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of King Tut's subclade. Please remind me why he is being brought up as a potential for SRY2627. If this is the case, then we need to look at SRY2627's possible origin being in Anatolia.

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    Speaking of L165, as someone was doing as recently as last April -- David Reynolds posted elsewhere today that the group is split by ten new SNPs (under L165), found in British samples tested on the new Chromo2 chip. Two L165 guys are positive for all of them, two other L165 guys aren't. Just by way of breaking news, for future discussion; details so far are sparse. Anyway, here's the list:

    S5643
    S5647
    S5652
    S5661
    S6338
    S6339
    S6341
    S6366
    S7414
    S7415

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    A genetic cousin has just informed me that he is in the process of testing for a couple of new snp's below SRY2627. They are PF742 and Z207.. Does anyone have any info on these??
     
    Y-DNA : R1b-P312>DF27>Z196>L176.2>Z262>SRY2627*

    mtDNA : J1c8

    Lactase Persistence: rs4988235 - AA rs182549 - TT

    EEF 49.22068981
    WHG 35.89409732
    ANE 14.88521287


    Eurogenes K7:
    WHG 61.67%
    ENF 19.35%
    ANE 15.21%


    Ysearch - ky8wb

    ftdna - 151463

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    Sam -

    Z207+ is upstream from CTS4299+ and is five levels downstream from SRY2627+, according to Christopher Morley's haplotree, which also tells me that PF742+ is downstream from CTS8289+, which is one level upstream from Z207+. CTS8289+ and PF742+ have DYS490 = 10.

    What is your genetic cousin's kit number?

    Stephen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Parrish View Post
    Sam -

    Z207+ is upstream from CTS4299+ and is five levels downstream from SRY2627+, according to Christopher Morley's haplotree, which also tells me that PF742+ is downstream from CTS8289+, which is one level upstream from Z207+. CTS8289+ and PF742+ have DYS490 = 10.

    What is your genetic cousin's kit number?

    Stephen
    Ah.. That isn't good! He is DYS490=12! Too late though, as he's already ordered it. His surname is Grouazel-Krauss in the SRY2627 project.
     
    Y-DNA : R1b-P312>DF27>Z196>L176.2>Z262>SRY2627*

    mtDNA : J1c8

    Lactase Persistence: rs4988235 - AA rs182549 - TT

    EEF 49.22068981
    WHG 35.89409732
    ANE 14.88521287


    Eurogenes K7:
    WHG 61.67%
    ENF 19.35%
    ANE 15.21%


    Ysearch - ky8wb

    ftdna - 151463

    23andMe - M936999

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