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Thread: Why do people of Western European descent contrast k13 and k15 results ?

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    I found the genetic map of Europe in this 2008 article quite interesting...illustrating how you can appear to be many nationalities at the same time as they overlap in areas. For example there's an area where British, Irish, German, Dutch, Norwegian, and Danish all overlap.

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    I do find it interesting that the one heritage calculator Eurogenes, has admixtures for various regions of France, the Netherlands, East and West Germany, North Germany, and probably even Southern Germany with Austria-Hungary. However, I am not sure how they estimate these percentages/ratios, especially since all of these modern day countries and cultures throughout thousands of years of history invaded each other and settled and intermixed with the population of these regions of Europe?
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    Here's my K13 and K15 results for comparison

    K13
    North_Atlantic - 0%
    Baltic- 3.35%
    West_Med - 0%
    West_Asian - 19.67%
    East_Med - 0.14%
    Red_Sea - 0.17%
    South_Asian - 66.86%
    East_Asian - 4.50%
    Siberian - 1.89%
    Amerindian - 1.11%
    Oceanian - 1.68%
    Northeast_Africa - 0%
    Sub-Saharan - 0.64%


    K15
    North_Sea - 2.35%
    Atlantic - 0%
    Baltic - 3.20%
    Eastern_Euro - 2.24%
    West_Med - 0%
    West_Asian - 12.02%
    East_Med - 0.78%
    Red_Sea - 0%
    South_Asian - 70.03%
    Southeast_Asian - 4.43%
    Siberian - 1.84%
    Amerindian - 1.08%
    Oceanian - 1.54%
    Northeast_African - 0%
    Sub-Saharan - 0.49%

    Honestly, I'm surprised that the K15 would pick up more North Sea, but I scored nothing on North Atlantic (K13). Wonder what could cause that difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    Here's my K13 and K15 results for comparison

    K13
    North_Atlantic - 0%
    Baltic- 3.35%
    West_Med - 0%
    West_Asian - 19.67%
    East_Med - 0.14%
    Red_Sea - 0.17%
    South_Asian - 66.86%
    East_Asian - 4.50%
    Siberian - 1.89%
    Amerindian - 1.11%
    Oceanian - 1.68%
    Northeast_Africa - 0%
    Sub-Saharan - 0.64%


    K15
    North_Sea - 2.35%
    Atlantic - 0%
    Baltic - 3.20%
    Eastern_Euro - 2.24%
    West_Med - 0%
    West_Asian - 12.02%
    East_Med - 0.78%
    Red_Sea - 0%
    South_Asian - 70.03%
    Southeast_Asian - 4.43%
    Siberian - 1.84%
    Amerindian - 1.08%
    Oceanian - 1.54%
    Northeast_African - 0%
    Sub-Saharan - 0.49%

    Honestly, I'm surprised that the K15 would pick up more North Sea, but I scored nothing on North Atlantic (K13). Wonder what could cause that difference?
    Looking at all components only valid answer is that in K13 West-Asian harbors 2.35% North-Sea, 2.24% Eastern-Euro and even 3% of South Asian from K15.

    Because in K13 West-Asian is 19.67% ad in K15 only 12% and rest of the components don't change. This is why I think K13 is much worse than K15. Because North-Sea could be in K13's North-Atlantic and Eastern-Euro in K13's Baltic...
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    I've read somewhere that for South Asians, if the Eastern Euro is higher than or equal to the other North European components (North Sea, Atlantic, Baltic), then it indicates that the "European" contribution is rather ancient than recent. Then again, I can't really apply that rule due to my circumstances of being descended from indentured servants to the Caribbean. From what I'd heard, there was mixing (especially in my mom's family) with the English with contributions from Northern Chinese and South Amerindians.

    I do agree that K15 better suits my ancestral background with about 1/8th European (along with a bit from West Asia as well) but that's just me

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