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    Hello from France

    Hello everyone, first post here on the DF27 section.
    I am a student, and i did a YSeq test, and i'm R1B-DF27* with DF27 as R+ .
    My father family is from brittany in France.

    Here is my 23andme composition result, my father side should be the Irish & Brittish + French :
    here the link

    I'm not 100% sure i'm a DF27 as i didn't find any SNP with my YSeq test, but in some time i will do the Y-STR67 to know more about my paternal line.
    i don't know if it can help, but here there is my 23andme surname view :

    ff7a72950c86ede3a69fb1b1f7228039.png

    We can see that in count, the top5 is :
    -Brown
    -Taylor
    -Anderson
    -Davis
    -Williams

    But i don't know what does mean the enrichment section.


    If you want, you can also see my YSeq result more in detail but as i said, the most important here is that i'm DF27 R+ :

     

    A10286 ChrY 18787255 18787255 G-
    A11313 ChrY 18232408 18232408 G-
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    I will complete this topic later with more information .
    Cheers.

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    I don't think we are related but, yep, those are exactly the same names I got, as 4th or 5th, but in different order. Could that be a feature of df27 French men, or of all French/European in general?

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    Smith (22)
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    Jones (16)
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    Johnson (12)
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    My Y67 STR from FTDNA is now available ! I just have Y12 & Y25.

    My predicted Haplogroup is R-M269
    Is it normal that for 23&me i'm L51+ (which is under P312) and for FTDNA i'm R-M269 (which is above P312) ?
    They advise me to buy the pack M343&M269 Backbone for 99$ .

    Now for my results

    Ancestral Origins for Y25
    ancestral origins - y25.png

    Matches Map for Y25
    Matches map y25.jpg

    Y-DNA Matches for Y25
    Ydna Matches - y25.png

    Y-DNA - Haplogroup Origins for Y25
    YDNA Haplogroup Origin Y25.png

    Y-STR
    YSTR Result.jpg

    I'm already on the R-DF27 project, do i have some odds to be a real DF27 or it's not sure with these results ?

    Cheers.

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    You seem to be more Italian than anything else. That is unusual for someone living in NW France.
    YDNA: R1b-BY50830 Stepney, London, UK George Wood b. 1782 English <-> Bavarian cluster
    m gf YDNA: ?? Gurr, James ~1740, Smarden, Kent, England.
    m gm YDNA: R1b-P311+ Beech, John Richard b. 1780, Lewes, England
    m ggf YDNA R1b-U106 Thomas, Edward b 1854, Sittingbourne, Kent
    p ggf YDNA: R1b-Z17901. Gould, John Somerset England 1800s.
    p ggf YDNA: R1b-L48. Scott, William Hamilton Ireland(?) 1800s

    other:
    Turner: R-U152
    Welch: early 1800s E-M84 Kent, England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADW_1981 View Post
    You seem to be more Italian than anything else. That is unusual for someone living in NW France.
    Italian is from my mother !

    My father lineage is from French Brittany
    Last edited by donj; 12-21-2016 at 12:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donj View Post
    My Y67 STR from FTDNA is now available ! I just have Y12 & Y25.

    My predicted Haplogroup is R-M269
    Is it normal that for 23&me i'm L51+ (which is under P312) and for FTDNA i'm R-M269 (which is above P312) ?
    They advise me to buy the pack M343&M269 Backbone for 99$ .

    Now for my results

    Ancestral Origins for Y25
    ancestral origins - y25.png

    Matches Map for Y25
    Matches map y25.jpg

    Y-DNA Matches for Y25
    Ydna Matches - y25.png

    Y-DNA - Haplogroup Origins for Y25
    YDNA Haplogroup Origin Y25.png

    Y-STR
    YSTR Result.jpg

    I'm already on the R-DF27 project, do i have some odds to be a real DF27 or it's not sure with these results ?

    Cheers.
    I'm wondering whether your UK matches relate to a Breton presence after the Norman Conquest, they held land in the West Country/Welsh Borders and parts of Eastern England. Not sure about the North. John

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    I can't help to pronounce mentally 'Mister Anderson' like Agent Smith in the Matrix. I also got tons of Anderson, Gilliland and Brown 12/12 STR matches, they must be a big part of the basic North European genetic make up. That is, if you got some significant British/Irish ancestral component in the population around you, which includes Western France and Northern France, you will get these names both as Autosomal matches and STR matches. This is probably because the same people test for autosomal and STR more often than none, but most importantly because European people are mostly the product of a population expansion that started 4-5000 years at most. There is no way around that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ric View Post
    I can't help to pronounce mentally 'Mister Anderson' like Agent Smith in the Matrix. I also got tons of Anderson, Gilliland and Brown 12/12 STR matches, they must be a big part of the basic North European genetic make up. That is, if you got some significant British/Irish ancestral component in the population around you, which includes Western France and Northern France, you will get these names both as Autosomal matches and STR matches. This is probably because the same people test for autosomal and STR more often than none, but most importantly because European people are mostly the product of a population expansion that started 4-5000 years at most. There is no way around that.
    And when I first saw The Fellowship of the Ring back in 2001, I couldn't help but think "Mr Anderson...." everytime Elrond spoke. He spoke exactly the same way.
    YDNA: R1b-BY50830 Stepney, London, UK George Wood b. 1782 English <-> Bavarian cluster
    m gf YDNA: ?? Gurr, James ~1740, Smarden, Kent, England.
    m gm YDNA: R1b-P311+ Beech, John Richard b. 1780, Lewes, England
    m ggf YDNA R1b-U106 Thomas, Edward b 1854, Sittingbourne, Kent
    p ggf YDNA: R1b-Z17901. Gould, John Somerset England 1800s.
    p ggf YDNA: R1b-L48. Scott, William Hamilton Ireland(?) 1800s

    other:
    Turner: R-U152
    Welch: early 1800s E-M84 Kent, England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADW_1981 View Post
    And when I first saw The Fellowship of the Ring back in 2001, I couldn't help but think "Mr Anderson...." everytime Elrond spoke. He spoke exactly the same way.
    True, what was Agent smith doing there ?

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