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    R1a - YP4141 + with R1b M-269+ ???

    Can any body explain to me how to be R-M269 and classified with STR cluster of YP4141

    SAMPLE 299042 is M269+ with STR same as M420+ 219391
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    ANOTHER YP4141 WITH M269

    311340 Turkey R-M269 13 23 15 10 12-12 12 12 10 13 13 30 17 9-9 11 12 25 15 19 32 12-12-16-17 11 10 19-23 15 17 17 17 33-38 11 11 9 8 15-16 8 11 10 8 10 11 12 22-22 15 10 12 12 14 8 12 21 21 15 12 12 13 10 12 12 12

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    They're predicted M269 by STRs alone as the color of text indicates, not SNP tested. So it's likely they're not M269 but YP4141 like the R1a admins predicts if they get SNP tested.
    E-M84>FGC18389>FGC18413>FGC18401>FGC18422>Y99171 tMRCA 2550ybp

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    So why it is in green not in red R-M269 if not tested
    Do you have idea of this sample if it belong to Kurd also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilelover View Post
    ANOTHER YP4141 WITH M269
    In both these cases, the M269+ comes from a Y-Hap-Backbone test. My recollection is that this test is handled unusually--either it uses a commercially sold procedure, or is entirely outsourced. We can only conclude that it occasionally gives a false positive for M269.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilelover View Post
    So why it is in green not in red R-M269 if not tested
    Do you have idea of this sample if it belong to Kurd also
    You're right, i thought it was red, i'm sorta color blind.
    E-M84>FGC18389>FGC18413>FGC18401>FGC18422>Y99171 tMRCA 2550ybp

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    In both these cases, the M269+ comes from a Y-Hap-Backbone test. My recollection is that this test is handled unusually--either it uses a commercially sold procedure, or is entirely outsourced. We can only conclude that it occasionally gives a false positive for M269.
    Haddad was also R-M269 then edited to R-M173
    Seems to be a common error here
    Especially haplotype STR marker is very close to R1b
    I wish there is a SNP back cheaper for this new branch of R1a .. to give us more clear view .

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