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    Thanks. I score 12% Turkic, which I'm guessing is pretty high for a Kurd no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurd View Post

    Here is the 1st attempt at a Turkic Admixture calculator using about 20 Uzbek and Uzbek Turkmen references. I am open to suggestions on Turkic references. The calculator is a K9, and uses 112K SNPs. The results appear a little more clean cut than the previous Pashtun calculator.

    The W Asian references include Saudis, Yemenis and Armenians. I have removed many Caucuasus samples, so that they do not interfere with the Turkic and W Asian allele frequencies

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    SAMPLE SE_European W_Asian SSA NE_European Indian Mongol Papuan NE_Asian Turkic
    Pashtun_Afgh2 42.99% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 35.76% 0.00% 0.07% 0.00% 21.17%
    .Rukha 46.44% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 33.15% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 20.40%
    .Kurd_SE 47.14% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 34.18% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 18.67%
    .Sein 38.26% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 43.18% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 18.56%
    .Pashtun_Afgh1 50.04% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 32.20% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 17.76%
    .Khana 30.94% 1.78% 0.00% 0.00% 50.19% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 17.08%
    .Hanna 55.42% 26.61% 0.00% 0.00% 2.32% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 15.64%
    .Sapporo 32.93% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 52.12% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 14.94%
    .Kaido 40.36% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 44.97% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 14.67%
    .Kenji 15.99% 2.10% 0.00% 5.53% 62.75% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 13.62%
    .Dluffy 20.35% 0.00% 0.00% 7.76% 58.55% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 13.33%
    .Halgurd 54.60% 27.29% 0.00% 0.00% 5.57% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 12.53%
    .Gill 35.71% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 52.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 12.29%
    .Bored 27.16% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 60.64% 0.77% 0.07% 0.00% 11.35%
    .Jatt_Har393 29.75% 0.00% 0.00% 6.10% 53.15% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 10.99%
    .Iranian567 50.47% 25.73% 0.87% 0.00% 12.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 10.92%
    .Parasar 16.09% 0.00% 0.00% 7.46% 65.62% 0.00% 0.51% 0.00% 10.32%
    .NK19191 48.71% 26.59% 0.00% 0.00% 14.57% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 10.13%
    .Kurd_Ezidi 51.52% 29.09% 0.00% 0.00% 9.34% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 10.05%
    .Arain_Sheikh 30.15% 0.00% 0.00% 0.13% 60.39% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 9.34%
    .Bol_Nat 33.44% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 57.80% 0.00% 0.06% 0.00% 8.70%
    .Zara 34.00% 28.11% 2.05% 0.00% 27.42% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 8.43%
    .Reza1 0.00% 3.40% 0.00% 2.08% 73.82% 12.78% 0.53% 0.00% 7.38%
    .Kurd_C1 56.94% 26.33% 0.00% 0.00% 9.46% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 7.27%
    .McNinja 23.74% 0.00% 0.00% 4.57% 64.87% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 6.81%
    .Jatt2016 30.48% 0.00% 0.00% 3.38% 60.04% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 6.09%
    .Kurd_C2 55.33% 28.67% 0.00% 0.00% 9.91% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 6.08%
    .Kurd_F8 52.07% 32.17% 0.00% 0.00% 10.53% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 5.23%
    .Pak_Gujjar 36.38% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 58.48% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 5.13%
    .Farid 30.00% 29.85% 1.08% 0.00% 34.24% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 4.82%
    .Kurd_F1 62.48% 21.57% 0.00% 0.00% 11.88% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 4.07%
    .Jesus 42.34% 30.05% 3.67% 0.00% 19.95% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 3.99%
    .Kurd_F4 62.74% 22.73% 0.00% 0.00% 10.61% 0.00% 0.02% 0.00% 3.90%
    .Punjabi_Rajput 31.86% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 64.26% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 3.88%
    .Mfa 64.50% 23.09% 0.00% 0.00% 8.56% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 3.85%
    .Kurd_F3 64.11% 19.28% 0.00% 0.00% 12.81% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 3.80%
    .Kurd_F6 56.76% 25.54% 0.00% 0.00% 13.95% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 3.76%
    .Ashwin 17.91% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 78.49% 0.00% 0.42% 0.00% 3.18%
    .Kurd_F2 66.48% 16.79% 0.00% 0.00% 13.09% 1.16% 0.00% 0.00% 2.48%
    .Kurd_F7 58.04% 28.08% 0.00% 0.00% 12.43% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 1.44%
    .Kurd_F5 60.23% 25.81% 0.09% 0.00% 13.05% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.82%
    .Varun 23.01% 0.00% 0.54% 0.00% 73.15% 1.97% 0.00% 0.64% 0.68%
    .Nee4speed 20.70% 72.60% 4.16% 1.26% 0.00% 0.00% 1.29% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Krefter 40.02% 5.39% 1.29% 49.67% 1.52% 0.99% 1.13% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Lank 0.00% 63.42% 36.23% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.33% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Powell 35.85% 9.21% 0.05% 54.88% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Passa 51.07% 25.20% 0.00% 23.72% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Awale 0.00% 52.04% 47.95% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Znertu 99.99% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Asimakidis 72.90% 25.27% 0.00% 0.00% 1.83% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Zephyrous 60.37% 38.05% 0.00% 0.00% 1.58% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Humanist 51.62% 44.76% 0.00% 0.00% 3.62% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    Cool stuff.
    Is Pashtun_Afg2 a Durrani or a Ghilzai?
    Where are the Uzbaks and Uzbak Turkomans from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by surbakhunWeesste View Post
    Cool stuff.
    Is Pashtun_Afg2 a Durrani or a Ghilzai?
    Where are the Uzbaks and Uzbak Turkomans from?
    Pashtun Afg2 is Meli, and Afg1 is from the Kandhar area. Uzbek and Turkmen are I believe from somewhere in Uzbekistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halgurd View Post
    Thanks. I score 12% Turkic, which I'm guessing is pretty high for a Kurd no?
    Yes, but you are my only Sorani Kurd sample. I have a feeling that may be quite normal for Soranis. Interestingly, some of the Soranis I have seen had some E Asian facial overtones. The other Iraqi Kurds C1 and C2 had about 7%. Kurd Ezidi had 10%.

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    Look forward to the DIY version of this calculator

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halgurd View Post
    Thanks. I score 12% Turkic, which I'm guessing is pretty high for a Kurd no?
    I've seen your other results before and it did take my attention that you score a little more East Asian than average Kurds. Do you have any Turkish ancestry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    I've seen your other results before and it did take my attention that you score a little more East Asian than average Kurds. Do you have any Turkish ancestry?
    Not that I know of.
    Last edited by Halgurd; 10-08-2016 at 08:11 AM.

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    UPDATE

    Adding more Armenians to the W Asian reference, for a total of 18 Armenians, changed the dynamics a little. With a more balanced SW Asian (Saudis & Yemenis) and Armenian W Asian component, most Asians migrated from the SE European component to the W Asian component, except for true SE European loyalists, such as Asimakids, Krefter, Passa, and Powell

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    SAMPLE Turkic SE_European W_Asian SSA NE_European Indian Mongol Papuan NE_Asian
    .Kurd_SE 22.10% 0.00% 36.83% 0.00% 9.63% 31.44% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    Pashtun_Afg2 19.46% 0.00% 26.33% 0.00% 19.89% 34.31% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    Pashtun_Afg1 18.93% 0.00% 36.12% 0.00% 15.12% 29.82% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Rukha 18.75% 0.00% 25.13% 0.00% 24.14% 31.97% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Sein 18.07% 0.00% 25.60% 0.00% 14.58% 41.75% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Hanna 17.34% 20.32% 59.46% 0.00% 2.33% 0.55% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Kaido 17.25% 1.32% 23.76% 0.00% 14.12% 43.54% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Khana 15.46% 0.00% 23.73% 0.00% 11.93% 48.87% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Sapporo 14.65% 0.00% 17.33% 0.00% 16.80% 51.21% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Halgurd 14.53% 12.45% 68.13% 0.00% 1.79% 3.10% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Bored 12.86% 0.00% 14.39% 0.00% 12.68% 60.06% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Iranian567 12.00% 0.00% 68.75% 0.00% 10.08% 9.17% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Kurd_Ezidi 11.51% 0.00% 73.12% 0.00% 9.08% 6.28% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Dluffy 11.08% 0.00% 13.29% 0.00% 17.71% 57.92% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Kenji 10.81% 0.00% 12.78% 0.00% 13.64% 62.27% 0.00% 0.01% 0.49%
    .Parasar 10.72% 7.45% 3.01% 0.00% 12.12% 66.21% 0.00% 0.48% 0.00%
    .Gill 10.39% 0.00% 21.32% 0.00% 17.05% 51.23% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Bol_Nat 10.36% 0.00% 21.36% 0.00% 11.56% 56.72% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Kurd_C1 10.11% 0.00% 74.56% 0.00% 9.85% 5.47% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Jatt_Har393 10.07% 0.00% 13.86% 0.00% 22.98% 53.09% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Kurd_F3 9.77% 0.00% 75.58% 0.00% 7.27% 7.37% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Kurd_F2 9.45% 0.00% 73.25% 0.00% 8.80% 8.50% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .NK19191 8.98% 0.00% 65.20% 0.00% 13.91% 11.91% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Kurd_C2 8.25% 3.44% 73.40% 0.00% 8.28% 6.63% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Kurd_F6 7.91% 0.00% 76.47% 0.00% 6.04% 9.57% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Arain_Sheikh 7.38% 0.00% 18.22% 0.00% 14.70% 59.70% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .McNinja 7.32% 0.00% 12.09% 0.00% 16.42% 64.18% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Kurd_F4 7.23% 0.00% 79.49% 0.00% 6.38% 6.89% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Kurd_F8 7.14% 0.00% 78.78% 0.00% 7.01% 7.07% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Znertu 7.12% 0.00% 76.49% 0.00% 13.27% 3.12% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Varun 6.77% 5.90% 6.24% 0.70% 7.33% 73.07% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Reza1 6.47% 0.00% 2.98% 0.00% 2.21% 73.75% 13.83% 0.70% 0.07%
    .Jatt2016 6.07% 4.60% 15.17% 0.00% 14.60% 59.56% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Zara 5.35% 0.00% 59.11% 2.01% 7.64% 25.89% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Ashwin 5.21% 7.42% 6.88% 0.00% 1.65% 78.58% 0.00% 0.26% 0.00%
    .Jesus 4.29% 0.00% 67.30% 3.17% 7.78% 17.44% 0.00% 0.02% 0.00%
    .Kurd_F1 4.14% 0.00% 72.68% 0.00% 15.02% 8.15% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Pak_Gujjar 3.57% 0.00% 24.13% 0.00% 14.58% 57.72% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Punjabi_Rajput 3.18% 0.00% 17.31% 0.00% 16.06% 63.44% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Krefter 3.17% 63.17% 0.00% 1.45% 28.99% 2.18% 0.00% 1.04% 0.00%
    .Zephyrous 3.14% 18.92% 77.93% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Kurd_F7 3.06% 0.00% 79.07% 0.00% 9.72% 8.14% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Mfa 2.93% 0.00% 71.02% 0.00% 21.26% 4.78% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Farid 1.87% 0.00% 54.65% 1.46% 8.96% 33.06% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Asimakidis 1.27% 34.91% 61.04% 0.00% 2.76% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Kurd_F5 1.18% 0.00% 76.08% 0.00% 13.26% 9.47% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Humanist 1.15% 0.81% 93.40% 0.00% 4.09% 0.55% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Awale 0.00% 0.00% 47.25% 52.16% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.58% 0.00%
    .Lank 0.00% 0.00% 58.87% 40.17% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.96% 0.00%
    .Nee4speed 0.00% 15.11% 76.90% 6.68% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 1.31% 0.00%
    .Passa 0.00% 59.87% 30.94% 0.00% 9.18% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    .Powell 0.00% 44.34% 11.49% 0.31% 43.86% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
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    FST Matrix for the above

    SE_European W_Asian SSA NE_European Indian Mongol Papuan NE_Asian
    W_Asian 0.021
    SSA 0.146 0.132
    NE_European 0.031 0.034 0.153
    Indian 0.056 0.048 0.138 0.06
    Mongol 0.094 0.09 0.164 0.095 0.07
    Papuan 0.201 0.194 0.245 0.204 0.171 0.188
    NE_Asian 0.124 0.12 0.19 0.125 0.1 0.057 0.214
    Turkic 0.043 0.039 0.141 0.047 0.042 0.054 0.18 0.08

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    Someone will probably ask whether increasing the caucausness of the previously SW Asian dominated W Asian reference, by adding more Armenian samples to it (incidentally 6 Iraqi Jews were also added to the run, they scored 82% to 97% W Asian, in essence also shifting the W Asian component more NE wards from before), has made the Turkic component more E Eurasian or W Eurasian.

    Well, my single Uyghur sample in the run, has increased slightly in Turkic score from before, indicating that the Turkic component is slightly more E Eurasian than before.

    The next series of tests will add more E Eurasian Turkic references to the run.

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