J-S12192 - I need your help!

[Maximilian]

Willkommen auf Anthrogenica Maximilian!

Danke Dir vielmals!

[Myth]

Hi there Maximilian and welcome to Anthrogenica

S12192 is the most important branch of J1-Z18271, which is the diagnostic marker shared by roughly 40% to 50% of all Kohanim. As you can see, S12192's TMRCA is ~1,250 years old, meaning the common ancestor of all S12192 positive men in all likeliness lived during the 8th century CE while Z18271's TMRCA is roughly ~2,600 years old. In other words, your paternal ancestors obviously were Kohanim.

I also tested positive for S12192, most specifically FGC9941+, Z18283+ . The relatives are showing from Lithuania, I'm assuming that they must have migrated from other Kohanim from the middle east at some point? I do have a Kohen surname as well as a oral history of being Kohanim which is also documented as well on Jewish papers.

[Maximilian]

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[Maximilian]

So after some time I collected some questions I have about my Y-DNA Haplotype J-S12192.

Are there any finds of this type on the planet and if so, how old are they and where were they found? Does anybody know where and when this mutation started to exist, I could not find any further information. It is pretty hard to coordinate through the internet without special knowledge about genetics.
Are there any known persons who were carrier of this haplotype? Would be great to know!

Thanks!

[lgmayka]

Does anybody know where and when this mutation started to exist,

YFull places S12192 at the J-Y5400 level. That level began to diverge from its brothers about 3200 years ago, but living men who carry S12192 have a common patrilineal ancestor only 1550 years ago.

J-S12192 includes an Ashkenazi Jewish subclade, presumably J-Y5399 whose most recent common patrilineal ancestor lived only 800 years ago.

[Kelmendasi]

Judging by the fact that the TMRCA of this clade is 1550 years, the common ancestor lived during 467AD or in other words he lived during the 5th century. This means that he lived during the collapse of the Roman empire which could of displaced the Levantine/Cohanim carriers into your region where they later got absorbed by the local population. Agamemnon stated before that he thinks that this common ancestor lived near the Rhine or Bavaria

[Kelmendasi]

I could belong to this clade judging by STRs but I need to do further SNP testing to know for sure as according to Nevgen I have 90+% chance of being from a "Unsupported clade". I have no Levantine admix which is weird and shows that my paternal ancestor probably came a long time ago

[Kelmendasi]

Yfull states that it has a TMRCA between 2100 and 1050 years but 1550 years is most probable. Overall this clade is an important clade of P58 and a cool one

[Kelmendasi]

This is a map of 467AD. Judging about what Agamemnon said about where the paternal ancestor was from/located in, he could of lived all the way from the Franks/Frisians to the Lombards/Alemanni although his distant origin was probably from the Levant/Fertile Crescent as S12192 is a descendant of ZS241, so his distant ancestors probably reached Europe via the Roman Empire: