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    Any members of the I-Z140 Project here?

    Just wanted to see how many I-Z140 members we have on these boards. Anyone I-Z140 with roots in the British & Irish Isles or elsewhere?

    I haven't heard much about the origins of Z140 and his descendants, although I would imagine they are Germanic.
    Y-DNA: I-A14097(Scotland),
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    mtDNA: pending (Westeremden, Netherlands)
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    R-M222 x2, R-L21 x2, I-M223, R-S1141, R-U198 & R-U106, mtHg J1c3
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    Paternal: Britain & Ireland, France and Germany
    Maternal: Netherlands

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    Hello spruithean,

    I'm predicted: Z140>F2642>Y3649. I haven't bothered to confirm any of them because they all seem to be pretty solid from what I understand. And also because I'm just about to send out my LivingDNA sample and probably will eventually take a BigY test, too.

    I haven't found a lot of infornation on it but this - which I suspect you've already seen - is what William Hartley has to say on it:

    History and Geography: The I1-Z140 family has its paternal roots in Northern Europe, in particular the British Isles, Doggerland, Scandinavia, the Baltic and North European Coastal regions. However, many I1-Z140 ancestors migrated to other parts of Europe and beyond, throughout the past thousands of years, thus I1-Z140 folk can now be found in many areas of the world. MRCA of I1-Z140: depending on method used, SNPs/genomes method is approx. 4,000 to 4,500 BP; M253 7,500 to 8,000 BP

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    If I recall correctly I am also predicted to be Y3649, I'm grouped in with names seemingly from the UK. It seems Y3649 is seen on both sides of the north sea however.
    Last edited by spruithean; 10-20-2016 at 02:17 AM.
    Y-DNA: I-A14097(Scotland),
    Big Y: I-F2642>Y1966>Y3649>A13241>Y3647>A14097 (1,850 YBP)
    mtDNA: pending (Westeremden, Netherlands)
    Other lines:
    R-M222 x2, R-L21 x2, I-M223, R-S1141, R-U198 & R-U106, mtHg J1c3
    Known ancestry
    Paternal: Britain & Ireland, France and Germany
    Maternal: Netherlands

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    That would make sense. According to Yfull, Y3649's TMRCA is 2700 ybp. Which is long before any of the major migrations into the Isles. So they could have spread all over the place.
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    My paternal line is Z140, L338, S12289, S1990/Y4015, A1631
    Trace back to Essex England

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    Hi,

    I'm a member of said Project. So far I-S12289, but awaiting Big-Y results.
    Paternal line stuck stubbornly in Holborn, London (1859). I don't think Y DNA is going to demolish this brick wall any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivergirl View Post
    My paternal line is Z140, L338, S12289, S1990/Y4015, A1631
    Trace back to Essex England
    Nice to see someone who matches me on both S12289 and V. First I've come across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    That would make sense. According to Yfull, Y3649's TMRCA is 2700 ybp. Which is long before any of the major migrations into the Isles. So they could have spread all over the place.
    It would be interesting to see one map showing all the locations of Z140+ F2642+ AS5, AS6 and the 14/22 Complex. From what I've seen of the individual maps they are pretty spread out.
    Y-DNA: I-A14097(Scotland),
    Big Y: I-F2642>Y1966>Y3649>A13241>Y3647>A14097 (1,850 YBP)
    mtDNA: pending (Westeremden, Netherlands)
    Other lines:
    R-M222 x2, R-L21 x2, I-M223, R-S1141, R-U198 & R-U106, mtHg J1c3
    Known ancestry
    Paternal: Britain & Ireland, France and Germany
    Maternal: Netherlands

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    Quote Originally Posted by spruithean View Post
    It would be interesting to see one map showing all the locations of Z140+ F2642+ AS5, AS6 and the 14/22 Complex. From what I've seen of the individual maps they are pretty spread out.
    Yeah, and their distribution is pretty similar, too. I just noticed that AS 6 has quite a cluster there in Northern England & a minor presence in Denmark. I've got some matches in Denmark myself, for whatever it's worth. Apparently, very few people have tested in Denmark for some reason. Whereas the Swedes seem to be enthusiastic when it comes to having their DNA tested.


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    Plugging my recent Y-STR results into the Nevgen predictor gave Z140 and L338. FTDNA I1 and Z140 projects have grouped me into 1-Z140 L338/YSC261+ AS-114 [Z60+,Z140+, Z2535+, L338/YSC261+ S12289- A1944+] Test A1944 on comparison with other members. All my paper genealogy is within the British Isles.

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