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    K1a in africa?

    I have had a new match, who's mt haplogroup turned out to be K1a. I could not find much info about its distribution in Africa. However, this person is very closely related to me and comes from the same clan, has the same autosomal profile, etc. But if this Mt haplogroup turns out to be of none somali/horn african origin, this would be the first time I have encountered this. But given that we are already mixed (west-asian+south-asian+african) what likelihood do you think this is a none African lineage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deftextra View Post
    I have had a new match, who's mt haplogroup turned out to be K1a. I could not find much info about its distribution in Africa. However, this person is very closely related to me and comes from the same clan, has the same autosomal profile, etc. But if this Mt haplogroup turns out to be of none somali/horn african origin, this would be the first time I have encountered this. But given that we are already mixed (west-asian+south-asian+african) what likelihood do you think this is a none African lineage?

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    Perhaps an ancestor was a European female taken captive by the Barbary Pirates.

    Jack Wyatt

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    It could be near eastern
    Actually K1a is a common maternal lineage in the near east

    Haplougroup K map
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abd.H View Post
    It could be near eastern
    Actually K1a is a common maternal lineage in the near east

    Haplougroup K map
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    I see that you are K1a. I'm curious how far back you are able to trace your maternal line.

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    Jack

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    Quote Originally Posted by C J Wyatt III View Post
    I see that you are K1a. I'm curious how far back you are able to trace your maternal line.

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    Jack
    Actually I have only one mtDNA match and it's from Poland
    my maternal grandmother ,great-grandmother and great-great-grandmother all were Syrians from north west Syria ,but I don't have information about older maternal ancestors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abd.H View Post
    It could be near eastern
    Actually K1a is a common maternal lineage in the near east

    Haplougroup K map
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    Yeah, I would imagine this to be the most likely case, Given our autosomal mixture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abd.H View Post
    Actually I have only one mtDNA match and it's from Poland
    my maternal grandmother ,great-grandmother and great-great-grandmother all were Syrians from north west Syria ,but I don't have information about older maternal ancestors
    Appreciate it. The timeline would allow the possibility that your K1a ancestor was brought into the region by the Barbary Pirates. Just something to consider.

    Jack

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    A closely related cousing tested and her mt dna turned out to be also K1a but this time more refined. Looks like this is K1a12a, which through a simple search is found in the Levant (Jews, Druzes), Turkey, Ethiopia and neolitic Turkey and Iran.

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    The 4,000 year old ydna E2 early male pastoralist (I12533) buried in Prettejohn's Gully, Kenya had K1a, and so did a 1500 year old Cushitic/Erythrean Pastoral Neolithic/ELM female buried in Keringet Cave, also in Kenya (I12394).

    So certain branch(s) of K1a clearly arn't a post-Neolithic arrival in NE Africa. Unless the K1a you speak of is of a non-NE African branch.

    There are Somalis with very Bronze Age Semitic-looking mtdna, probably due to Habesha and Abyssinian/Oromo and other female-biased geneflow into the Somali genepool, especially due to slavery, concubinage, and the patriarchal nature of Somali identity. Or perhaps a Benadiri maternal line is another possibility.

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    As far as I know, my K1a-C150T comes from Southern Germany probably brought there by Middle Eastern farmers many thousands of years ago. I had my mind blown awhile back when a person from Yemen on this very forum told me that they share my K1a-C150T mitochondrial haplogroup. Yemen is not that far from Somalia.

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