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    Quote Originally Posted by A Norfolk L-M20 View Post
    Thanks for the tip Gareth! So, 6,000 years since TMRCA. That's a bit younger!
    Its the TMRCA between you and the Lebanese sample but not the age of SK1414. SK1414 or one of all equalent SNPs formed 13k years ago. I think STR diversity of SK1414 show us SK1414 is one of the oldest SNPs in those equalent SNP set. On the other hand yes we are coming more present as far as more people make thier full sequence ydna test. But 6000 Years is too much. Even some SNPs ages less then 3k is very common in many population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabasis View Post
    Its the TMRCA between you and the Lebanese sample but not the age of SK1414. SK1414 or one of all equalent SNPs formed 13k years ago. I think STR diversity of SK1414 show us SK1414 is one of the oldest SNPs in those equalent SNP set. On the other hand yes we are coming more present as far as more people make thier full sequence ydna test. But 6000 Years is too much. Even some SNPs ages less then 3k is very common in many population.
    I did say it was the estimated age of L-SK1414 i.e. the branch, not the SNP itself. Estimating ages for branches is difficult, getting ages for individual SNPs that far back in time is nearly impossible as there aren't enough branches surviving today to reveal the exact order in which the SNPs occurred. You might get lucky with ancient DNA and be able to break up lists of equivalent SNPs but nothing is guaranteed. But I'm OK with that, the aim is to learn more about the history of humanity's paternal line tree, YDNA is just the means to that end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GarethH View Post
    They were in the Qamar et al paper published in 2002 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC447589/
    This was so long ago that hg L was referred to as "haplogroup 28".
    This diagram is particularly interesting:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...89/figure/FG6/
    The Parsi are the dark green circles at the bottom, they are quite distinct from the main clusters of L-M27 (top) and L-M357 (middle) samples.
    The two pinkish circles near the top of the Parsi branch are Makrani samples, one of them may have been the same sample in which SK1414 was discovered.
    In the new study about Zoroastrians, 55% of Zoroastrian preists(Parsis) belonged to haplogroup 28(most is L1b and probably L-SK1414). Sadly only 8 priests from Iran were tested and none showed y-DNA 28, probably due to the small sample size(check the supplementary material)




    http://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/04/18/128272
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    Hi I am Kurdish and today my Big y 700 come out my Y DNA SK1414 as well from South east turkey we call north Kurdistan and Baloch are our cousins. I am speak Kurdish my all parents and grandparents and they are grandparents Kurds to we are from Mardin city very nice and very old city.

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    I love your profile you have my flag :-)

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