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    My 1st match correlating to paper trail!

    I had an email earlier this week (I didn't post sooner because I was repairing a PC ravaged by a deadly conflict between Windows and AVG), from a match in Australia. He spotted me on FT-DNA Family Finder, and I'm his first match. Another traditional long term genealogist, he had almost given up hope of finding any English family on his mother's side, when he saw "DNA results indicate that we are related in the 3rd.---5th. cousin range". We are indeed, by our shared paper trail, third cousins once removed. Well done FT-DNA. The system does work. He saw that I had a surname interest in Thacker, and so he contacted me. His ancestor was born here in 1853, but left the Norfolk villages: "Walter survived a 3 month sea voyage on a rickety wooden sailing clipper, as an infant, with his parents". I was incredibly pleased to see that despite the multiple marriages (following deaths of partners) in our shared lines, that he had come to the same conclusions as myself. Reunited through autosomal DNA, I was beginning to believe it couldn't work. The matching systems on 23andMe, FT-DNA, and GedMatch all seem to throw hundreds of distant cousins, at me - largely from the Americas, to whom I find no documentary link.

    My mother's new third cousin hopes to visit us next September.

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    Hi, I have 4 cousins from Australia now through DNA with confirmed paper trails (3rd cousins +) but despite many more matches from USA no paper trails at all. One common surname and trade who travelled on the Mayflower to USA but neither of us is even trying to find the MRCA.
    I have also encouraged a paper trail 3rd + 4th cousin (married from each side so related 2 ways) from Aus to test to help me further.
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    Out of 64 pre 1800 births 45% Cheshire, 1% Irish (or Scottish), 25% south Derbyshire, 13% Burton on Trent area (where 4 counties within 10 miles), 7% Shropshire, 1% Staffs, 8% Lancs. So far all British Isles despite what some testing companies say.

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    I found my possible West Wales connection through someone in Australia, also made another Australian connection through "Ancestry" family trees. John

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    I think I am luckier than most, as most of my top DNA matches are confirmed via paper trail.. I think it has everything to do with the excellent records we have in Norway, records that are freely available online..

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    My direct maternal line hits a brick wall in early 1800s. But I have an FTDNA match on my first page there with 54/14 cm whose paternal line goes back to Norfolk, England (looks like a MA email location). That East Angliian area could be where my direct maternal line came from. There is a suspiciously similar match in Denmark to my HVR1-HVR2, but that one has a lot of extra mutations attached. (I'll have to check that again).
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    At last, at last!
    A UK match to me! And a paper trail.
    Please help me celebrate since my husband just looks a mixture of incredulous and bored.

    I have Aussie matches only until now, from a few months ago, and a match for a family cousin to one of her other lines, only a few weeks ago.
    And now one for me Yippee!
    Last edited by Judith; 04-05-2017 at 06:26 AM. Reason: Clarity
    Image “Westray wifie” replica of Neolithic figurine Hidden Content
    Out of 64 pre 1800 births 45% Cheshire, 1% Irish (or Scottish), 25% south Derbyshire, 13% Burton on Trent area (where 4 counties within 10 miles), 7% Shropshire, 1% Staffs, 8% Lancs. So far all British Isles despite what some testing companies say.

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    11 yrs later and other than a fascinating side trip in discovering a very large NPE event in the 16 or 1700's, I have not had 1 hint of a match on my y dna stonewall!!
    It is the main reason I got tested
    I have gotten many hits on all the other types of DNA and my mothers side of the family...of course, that's the side that other cousins traveled to England to get primary source documents to develop a very precise and long geniological tree and I have no brick walls at all

    but the side and in fact line that I have the least info on, and hardest wall ever...nothin

    sigh

    Oh well, congrats to you guys on your excellent breakthroughs!

    ... and I will still wait for my long lost Whalen/Whealen kin to stop being so cheap, or paranoid or whateverthehellitisthatsstopingthem and gets themselves tested and put in the data base for me to find!

    Mike
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