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    I just got my results back from 23 and me and found out that my mtDNA haplogroup is W6! This seems to be quite a rare haplogroup. My maternal line seems to point back to Durham, England. I wonder how W6 got there?
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    So there is a Visigothic sample from Spain with W6a haplogroup, but I wonder if it is W6a1a or not?:

    https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/...Transect_0.pdf



    If I'm not mistaken, this Visigothic W6a is actually the only known so far ancient W6a younger than Bronze Age.

    Bronze Age W6a samples are Corded Ware Lithuania (Mittnik et. al. 2017) and from Corded Ware East Germany:

    - W6a sample dated to ~3260-2630 BC, Baltic Corded Ware, Plinkaigalis, Lithuania
    - W6a sample dated to ~2566-2477 BC, Corded Ware, Esperstedt, East Germany

    Here is what I got for this sample (I12034), can something downstream of W6a be identified as well?:

    User Entered Markers: C146T,C152T,A189G,C194T,T204C,G207A,A247G,G709A,A7 69G,A825T,A1018G,T1243C,A2758G,C2885T,A3505G,T3594 C,A4093G,G4104A,T4312C,G5046A,G5460A,A6040G,G7146A ,T7256C,A7521G,G8251A,T8468C,T8610C,T8614C,T8655C, G8701A,G8994A,C9540T,C10307T,G10398A,T10664C,A1068 8G,C10810T,C10873T,C10915T,C11674T,A11914G,A11947G ,T12414C,G13105A,G13276A,T13506C,T13650C,G15884C,A 16129G,T16187C,C16189T,C16192T,G16230A,T16278C,C16 292T,C16311T,T16325C

    Best Identified Haplogroups
    Haplogroup W6a

    ♀ Eve
    ⇨ L1'2'3'4'5'6 (C146T,C182T,T4312C,T10664C,C10915T,A11914G,G13276 A,G16230A)
    ⇨ L2'3'4'5'6 (C152T,A2758G,C2885T,G7146A,T8468C)
    ⇨ L2'3'4'6 (C195T,A247G,A825t,T8655C,A10688G,C10810T,G13105A, T13506C,G15301A,A16129G,T16187C,C16189T)
    ⇨ L3'4'6 (G4104A,A7521G)
    ⇨ L3'4 (T182C!,T3594C,T7256C,T13650C,T16278C)
    ⇨ L3 (A769G,A1018G,C16311T)
    ⇨ N (G8701A,C9540T,G10398A,C10873T,A15301G!)
    ⇨ N2 (A189G,G709A,G5046A,C11674T,T12414C)
    ⇨ W (T195C!,T204C,G207A,T1243C,A3505G,G5460A,G8251A,G8 994A,A11947G,G15884c,C16292T)
    ⇨ (C194T)
    ⇨ W6 (A4093G,T8614C,T16325C)
    ⇨ (C194T)
    ⇨ W6a (T8610C)
    Matches on Tree (54) : C146T C152T A189G C194T T204C G207A A247G G709A A769G A1018G T1243C A2758G C2885T A3505G T3594C A4093G G4104A T4312C G5046A G5460A G7146A T7256C A7521G G8251A T8468C T8610C T8614C T8655C G8701A G8994A C9540T G10398A T10664C A10688G C10810T C10873T C10915T C11674T A11914G A11947G T12414C G13105A G13276A T13506C T13650C A16129G T16187C C16189T C16192T G16230A T16278C C16292T C16311T T16325C
    Mismatches/Extras (4) : A825T A6040G C10307T G15884C

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    As for my haplogroup, I'm W6a according to mtDNA Wiki (but I haven't done mtDNA Full Sequence yet, so I'm not on YFull with my mtDNA).

    From my mtDNA Wiki report:



    YFull tree for W6a haplogroup (neither me nor this Spanish Visigoth are included there so far, but I hope that they will add the Visigoth soon):

    https://www.yfull.com/mtree/W6a/
    Last edited by Tomenable; 04-04-2019 at 04:09 AM.

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    Another ancient W6a sample (these are samples from Early Medieval Bohemia and Great Moravia):

    https://ct24.ceskatelevize.cz/domaci...hi_XZ90dfjjrEQ



    ^^^
    Check also SNP Tracker: http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html


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    There is also a much later Moorish W6a sample I7425 in the Iberian peninsula paper [Olalde et al 2019]. Have you tried to extract the mtDNA mutations of that sample to see if it is belonging to the same subbranch as the Visigothic sample ?

    There are no known current day samples with the additional mutations of the Visigothic sample as far as I know.

    This study on the viking world also contains a W6a viking warrior found in Salme, Estonia : https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/703405v1
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