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    Quote Originally Posted by ajc347 View Post
    My results for this pack have shown me as being:

    U106-, A8039-, CTS4528-, S1194-, FGC37100-, E207+, P312+ & S6863+

    I can't find any information on E207 and YFull list S6863 as being downstream of CTS4528 / S1194.

    I can't work out how this could be the case given that the results showed me as being negative for both CTS4528 & S1194, whilst being positive for P312.

    I am, therefore, a tad confused as to how I should interpret the S6863+ result?

    Any thoughts or advice will, as always, be greatefully received.
    What is your kit number? Let's have FTDNA look at it.They will rerun the test if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikewww View Post
    What is your kit number? Let's have FTDNA look at it.They will rerun the test if needed.
    Thanks Mike. My kit is #679121.
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    E207/Y410/GG528 is on the L51 level. The R1b Basal Subclades project haplotree has a question mark next to S6863 so I wouldn't put much stock in that SNP. Did you get any results for S14328, S1196, S6868, FGC23877, FGC23892 or FGC23894? They are the relevant SNPs downstream to CTS4528. My guess is P312+ is good. Mike can confirm the results.
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    YFull R1b-M269>L23>Z2103>Z2106>Z2108>Y14512>Y20971>Y22199, ISOGG R1b1a1a2a2c1b Y14416, FTDNA R-M64

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    Thanks Joe.

    FGC23877, FGC23892, FGC23894, S1196, S14328 & S6868 were all negative.
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    Now that's funny, nothing in that pack for me and I am my own branch 2 steps below L51. And ISOGG still has the tree wrong (pays to look beyond FTD folks).

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    AOK. What SNPs are missing? We need to update the Pack. I will check with the R1b Basal project admins.

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    Sorry, didn't mean to imply missing as in you left something out, but more like not yet discovered or not yet placed on the tree. Based on the number of SNPs in the major parallel branches downstream there should be dozens (maybe hundreds?) of SNPs that don't show up yet. Some are just private so far but may be meaningful later if more people ever test. TK found one private one for me but I'm waiting to see if it is old enough before going public. (I don't have any cousins who are interested in this stuff, but our surname project found 3 unrelated-in genealogy-timeframe lines that appeared to have a common ancestor ~3000 years ago so may be on the same as yet unidentified branch.) I'm not a FTDNA customer so this pack is only of interest to me for whatever may be learned from the results of others but so far the best it could do is identify more P311/S128* people so ISOGG will finally get the placement right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikewww View Post
    AOK. What SNPs are missing? We need to update the Pack. I will check with the R1b Basal project admins.
    Quote Originally Posted by AOK View Post
    Sorry, didn't mean to imply missing as in you left something out, but more like not yet discovered or not yet placed on the tree. Based on the number of SNPs in the major parallel branches downstream there should be dozens (maybe hundreds?) of SNPs that don't show up yet. Some are just private so far but may be meaningful later if more people ever test. TK found one private one for me but I'm waiting to see if it is old enough before going public. (I don't have any cousins who are interested in this stuff, but our surname project found 3 unrelated-in genealogy-timeframe lines that appeared to have a common ancestor ~3000 years ago so may be on the same as yet unidentified branch.) I'm not a FTDNA customer so this pack is only of interest to me for whatever may be learned from the results of others but so far the best it could do is identify more P311/S128* people so ISOGG will finally get the placement right.
    No problem, AOK, and no need to be sorry. I just thought there might be some new branches not covered by SNPs. We would want to submit those to FTDNA so they will make it into the pack. If so, or more like - when so, please email or post here.

    By the way, this is a good reason to consider Big Y. If you were in their database you could go on-line with your Big Y Chromosome Browser and see if any one was out there that had some of your personal SNPs. You never know, and unfortunately everyone does not join a project. Big Y has about an estimated 95% share of the consumer market place so who knows what's out there?
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