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    Quote Originally Posted by deuterium_1 View Post
    That is indeed true, but intermarriage wasn't such an issue in Early Islam, many of the Shia Imams had non-Arab wives including Imam Hossein who married Shahrbanu (most likely a Sindhi rather than a Sasanian Persian princess).
    It's really underrated how the Islamic expansion set off a "mini-globalization".

    I'm even seeing in the Iraq project on FTDNA for example people with surnames like Al-Hindi or Al-Hendawi with paternal H haplogroups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subzero85 View Post
    It's really underrated how the Islamic expansion set off a "mini-globalization".

    I'm even seeing in the Iraq project on FTDNA for example people with surnames like Al-Hindi or Al-Hendawi with paternal H haplogroups.
    Indeed

    One of my cousins is married to a Shirazi to Lahore, he is also apparently a Syed too.

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    This is a rare Harikela coin from my collection struck in AD 630-750.Obverse has a Stylized Recumbent Humped bull seated left with two horns and ears, Hump and mouth are clearly visible, no garland around the neck and tail pointing upward with legend above “Harikela”. Reverse shows bold ornate traditional Shrivatsa (Trident-head temple / tripartite) Symbol surrounded by beaded garlands with a with long central shaft / pole, crescent, moon & sun above all within decorative border.

    Apparently this coin has Brahmi script but perhaps in Bengal, it was beginning to evolve into Proto-Bengali script during this period?



    Harikela in relation to other kingdoms in Bengal:

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    Great coin... Harikela encompassed all of Sylhet and adjacent areas in Eastern Bengal.

    The script has some features reminiscent of the Gupta (post Brahmi) script but your coin uses a later form of vowel diacritics - a i-kar with the i inscribed before the 'ra' - rather than a superscript I thought was used in Gupta script.

    So could be either a regional difference or a transition to a later script.

    This coin below that also reads Harikela but in reverse (I think).

    https://www.mintageworld.com/media/d...n-of-harikela/
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    Quote Originally Posted by deuterium_1 View Post
    This is a rare Harikela coin from my collection struck in AD 630-750.Obverse has a Stylized Recumbent Humped bull seated left with two horns and ears, Hump and mouth are clearly visible, no garland around the neck and tail pointing upward with legend above “Harikela”. Reverse shows bold ornate traditional Shrivatsa (Trident-head temple / tripartite) Symbol surrounded by beaded garlands with a with long central shaft / pole, crescent, moon & sun above all within decorative border.

    Apparently this coin has Brahmi script but perhaps in Bengal, it was beginning to evolve into Proto-Bengali script during this period?


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    Very good shape.
    हरिकेल - harikel - is pretty readable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reza View Post
    Great coin... Harikela encompassed all of Sylhet and adjacent areas in Eastern Bengal.

    The script has some features reminiscent of the Gupta (post Brahmi) script but your coin uses a later form of vowel diacritics - a i-kar with the i inscribed before the 'ra' - rather than a superscript I thought was used in Gupta script.

    So could be either a regional difference or a transition to a later script.

    This coin below that also reads Harikela but in reverse (I think).

    https://www.mintageworld.com/media/d...n-of-harikela/
    Did the Harikelas leave any remains of buildings in Sylhet?

    Didn't Gupta script evolve into Bengali script?

    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    Very good shape.
    हरिकेल - harikel - is pretty readable.
    So it is in Eastern Gupta script then?
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