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    What is my 1%South West Asian/ Red Sea/Amerindian/North African in these Calculators?

    Curious as to where they may come from. I suspect the Amerindian is via a significant amount of Scaandinavian ancestry; My reason for this is due to my DNA results from a few parties.

    FTDNA reports 9% Finland and Northern Siberia.
    Geno 2.0 again reports 9% Finland and Northern Siberia.
    AncestryDNA reports <1% South West Asian. Trace marker.

    My ancestry on paper and supported by Gedmatch calculators and DNA companies is 7/8ths English and 1/8th Polish.

    MDLP K23b

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 39.79
    2 European_Early_Farmers 23.43
    3 Caucasian 21.12
    4 South_Central_Asian 6.09
    5 Ancestral_Altaic 5.10
    6 North_African 1.84

    Oracles;
     
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Dutch @ 2.124526
    2 Dane @ 3.913848
    3 North_German @ 4.472981
    4 Norwegian_East @ 4.707319
    5 Swede @ 5.523398
    6 South_German @ 5.704665
    7 English @ 5.944212
    8 Belgian @ 5.979034
    9 Frisian @ 5.994594
    10 North_European @ 6.052186
    11 Irish @ 6.399166
    12 Icelandic @ 6.627029
    13 Norwegian_West @ 6.885439
    14 German-Volga @ 7.043633
    15 Swede_Saami @ 7.117362
    16 Austrian @ 7.522508
    17 CEU @ 8.368046
    18 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 8.821963
    19 English_Kent_GBR @ 8.979730
    20 British @ 9.213736

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Dane +50% Dutch @ 1.792032


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% English +25% English_Cornwall_GBR +25% Russian_Meshtchyora @ 1.419783


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 German-Volga + Orcadian + Russian_North + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.304944
    2 German-Volga + Russian_North + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.321119
    3 British + German-Volga + Russian_North + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.398869
    4 British + German-Volga + Russian_Meshtchyora + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.413142
    5 German-Volga + Russian_Meshtchyora + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Welsh @ 1.414015
    6 CEU + German-Volga + Russian_Meshtchyora + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.419529
    7 English + English + English_Cornwall_GBR + Russian_Meshtchyora @ 1.419783
    8 English + English + Russian_North + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.427026
    9 German-Volga + Russian_Meshtchyora + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.428622
    10 English + English + Russian_Meshtchyora + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.428924
    11 German-Volga + Orcadian + Russian_Meshtchyora + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.436894
    12 CEU + German-Volga + Orcadian + Russian_Meshtchyora @ 1.442120
    13 Dutch + English_Cornwall_GBR + Russian_Meshtchyora + Welsh @ 1.447055
    14 Dane + Dutch + Dutch + Dutch @ 1.456046
    15 Dutch + German-Volga + Icelandic + Swede_Saami @ 1.459345
    16 German-Volga + Orcadian + Orcadian + Russian_North @ 1.460675
    17 Dutch + Finn_West + German-Volga + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.470798
    18 CEU + German-Volga + Russian_North + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.485724
    19 Belarusian-East + German-Volga + Orcadian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.487203
    20 German-Volga + Russian_North + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Welsh @ 1.487712


    Eurogenes K13;
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 49.65
    2 Baltic 24.30
    3 West_Med 11.51
    4 West_Asian 6.62
    5 East_Med 3.18
    6 Red_Sea 1.69

    Oracles;
     
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_Dutch @ 2.679822
    2 Orcadian @ 3.204370
    3 Irish @ 3.557908
    4 Danish @ 3.589358
    5 West_Scottish @ 4.351432
    6 Southeast_English @ 4.455842
    7 North_German @ 4.572845
    8 Southwest_English @ 5.300314
    9 Norwegian @ 5.364976
    10 Swedish @ 7.743097
    11 South_Dutch @ 8.211168
    12 West_German @ 9.288830
    13 North_Swedish @ 14.541942
    14 French @ 14.712542
    15 Austrian @ 14.915148
    16 East_German @ 15.377661
    17 Hungarian @ 20.130085
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 23.096815
    19 Southwest_Finnish @ 23.629343
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 24.245821

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_German +50% West_Scottish @ 1.874541


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Norwegian +25% West_German @ 1.617112


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Irish + Norwegian + West_German + West_Scottish @ 1.613715
    2 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + West_German @ 1.617112
    3 Norwegian + West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 1.706249
    4 North_German + North_German + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 1.724186
    5 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + West_German @ 1.730387
    6 Irish + North_Dutch + West_German + West_Scottish @ 1.756729
    7 Swedish + West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 1.758465
    8 North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_German + West_Scottish @ 1.767021
    9 Irish + North_German + North_German + Southwest_English @ 1.771759
    10 Irish + Swedish + West_German + West_Scottish @ 1.788671
    11 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + South_Dutch @ 1.803556
    12 Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + South_Dutch @ 1.805246
    13 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + West_German + West_Scottish @ 1.826048
    14 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + South_Dutch @ 1.832946
    15 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 1.846296
    16 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_German @ 1.849803
    17 North_Dutch + Norwegian + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 1.853100
    18 Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + West_German @ 1.859043
    19 Irish + Norwegian + Orcadian + West_German @ 1.865781
    20 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + South_Dutch @ 1.874263


    puntDNAL K12 ANCIENT;

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_HG 41.03
    2 Anatolian_NF 31.30
    3 Caucasus_HG 22.04
    4 Near_East 3.17
    5 Amerindian 1.74

    Oracles...
     
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 2.699861
    2 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 @ 3.859546
    3 Unetice_EBA_I0117 @ 4.186562
    4 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 @ 4.510055
    5 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 @ 5.112997
    6 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 @ 5.574378
    7 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 @ 5.651813
    8 Potapovka_I0419 @ 8.940320
    9 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 9.988969
    10 Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 @ 10.455259
    11 Srubnaya_I0430 @ 10.998224
    12 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 @ 13.055624
    13 Srubnaya_I0232 @ 13.107107
    14 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 @ 14.914275
    15 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 @ 15.049571
    16 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 @ 15.513204
    17 Vatya_SG_RISE479 @ 16.081785
    18 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 @ 16.238075
    19 Hungary_BA_I1502 @ 17.497808
    20 Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 25.794117

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Unetice_EBA_I0117 +50% Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 @ 1.833675


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 +25% Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 +25% Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 1.738171


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Vatya_SG_RISE479 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.377301
    2 Vatya_SG_RISE479 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.413378
    3 Hungary_BA_I1502 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.493348
    4 Hungary_BA_I1502 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.521867
    5 Vatya_SG_RISE479 + Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.547757
    6 Vatya_SG_RISE479 + Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.596416
    7 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 1.634576
    8 Hungary_BA_I1502 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.687574
    9 Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 1.689475
    10 Vatya_SG_RISE479 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.720796
    11 Vatya_SG_RISE479 + BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.721403
    12 Vatya_SG_RISE479 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.721700
    13 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 + Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 1.738171
    14 Vatya_SG_RISE479 + Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.740304
    15 Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 1.765105
    16 Vatya_SG_RISE479 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.798318
    17 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 + Vatya_SG_RISE479 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.821134
    18 Vatya_SG_RISE479 + Unetice_EBA_I0117 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.833499
    19 Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 @ 1.833675
    20 Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 1.835243


    DodeK12b

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 45.30
    2 Atlantic_Med 36.20
    3 Gedrosia 9.37
    4 Caucasus 6.47
    5 Southwest_Asian 1.35

    Oracles...
     

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Mixed_Germanic @ 3.087806
    2 Dutch @ 3.593116
    3 German @ 5.915210
    4 CEU30 @ 6.445285
    5 English @ 6.684453
    6 Kent @ 6.758971
    7 British_Isles @ 7.789574
    8 Argyll @ 8.781422
    9 Orkney @ 9.105680
    10 British @ 9.405864
    11 Orcadian @ 9.480279
    12 Cornwall @ 9.521627
    13 Irish @ 9.546968
    14 Norwegian @ 11.530478
    15 French @ 11.636559
    16 French @ 12.347323
    17 Swedish @ 13.214780
    18 Hungarians @ 14.839048
    19 Polish @ 25.870724
    20 Cataluna @ 26.003075

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% German +50% Kent @ 1.795436


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Argyll +25% Baleares +25% Russian @ 1.193671


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Argyll + Dutch + Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.120165
    2 Argyll + Norwegian + Orcadian + Romanians @ 1.151001
    3 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Romanians @ 1.177288
    4 Argyll + Irish + Norwegian + Romanians @ 1.191255
    5 Argyll + Argyll + Baleares + Russian @ 1.193671
    6 Irish + Norwegian + Orcadian + Romanians @ 1.216508
    7 Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Orcadian @ 1.216716
    8 Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Orkney @ 1.224988
    9 Argyll + Norwegian + Orkney + Romanians @ 1.235300
    10 Dutch + Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Orcadian @ 1.240839
    11 Dutch + Hungarians + Irish + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.242870
    12 Hungarians + Irish + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.248501
    13 Argyll + Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.252518
    14 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orkney + Romanians @ 1.260637
    15 Irish + Norwegian + Orkney + Romanians @ 1.269709
    16 Argyll + Argyll + Norwegian + Romanians @ 1.284405
    17 Argyll + Hungarians + Kent + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.285773
    18 Argyll + CEU30 + Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.287217
    19 Argyll + Cataluna + Mixed_Germanic + Russian @ 1.292365
    20 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Romanians @ 1.296848
    Last edited by Oathsworn; 01-23-2017 at 12:21 AM.

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    Here's the EUTest from Eurogenes too, it shows 1.16% Middle Eastern.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 34.00
    2 ATLANTIC 24.52
    3 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.35
    4 EAST_EURO 10.10
    5 WEST_MED 10.10
    6 WEST_ASIAN 6.48
    7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.16

    Oracles...
     

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 English @ 7.040188
    2 DK @ 7.600887
    3 NL @ 8.207534
    4 NO @ 8.237382
    5 Orcadian @ 8.944654
    6 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 9.080401
    7 West_&_Central_German @ 9.384531
    8 IE @ 9.464110
    9 Cornish @ 10.176538
    10 Scottish @ 10.768151
    11 North_Swedish @ 14.039464
    12 FR @ 17.126032
    13 AT @ 18.137917
    14 HU @ 23.531666
    15 South_Finnish @ 24.041971
    16 PT @ 24.811378
    17 ES @ 25.684879
    18 Serbian @ 26.234474
    19 PL @ 27.883745
    20 East_Finnish @ 29.197416

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% English +50% NO @ 6.609727


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% English +25% English +25% NO @ 6.553504


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 English + English + English + NO @ 6.553504
    2 English + English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.597122
    3 English + English + NO + NO @ 6.609727
    4 DK + English + English + NO @ 6.672118
    5 English + English + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.716279
    6 DK + English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.743072
    7 DK + English + English + English @ 6.823624
    8 DK + DK + English + English @ 6.850461
    9 English + English + NL + NO @ 6.855018
    10 English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.857057
    11 English + English + IE + NO @ 6.899429
    12 English + English + NO + Orcadian @ 6.907651
    13 English + English + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.917679
    14 English + English + NL + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.931673
    15 English + English + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.945364
    16 English + NL + NO + NO @ 7.005652
    17 DK + English + NL + NO @ 7.020265
    18 English + English + English + English @ 7.040188
    19 DK + DK + English + NO @ 7.040273
    20 English + IE + NO + NO @ 7.040739

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    I looked at a couple of the spreadsheets for these calculators on these populations. It looks like your values may be just a little over normal for English or close by populations. Your values may just be within normal variability for each calculator.

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    Awww, I was hoping it was something special and exotic! Thanks randwulf, appreciate it .

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    Is North African commonly found in English? I have around 3-4% in many calculators (3% in mdlp k23b) but I'm not sure if it's a normal amount in a mainly Swedish and some British person.

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