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    I tested myself recently, and got these results.
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    Central/South Asian (79%) (South Asia - 41%, Central Asia - 38%)
    European (10%) (British Isles - 7%, Finland and Northern Siberia - 3%)
    Middle Eastern (6%) (Asia Minor - 6%)
    East Asian (6%) (Southeast Asia - 6%)

    I was born in Pakistan, but I am from a Syed family. Syed = a descendant of Muhammad through Ali and Fatima. I am a Rizvi Syed, my family migrated from Mashhad to Halour in India, and then lived in the Uttar Pradesh region area for some time. Before the partition of India, my family were mainly in a place near Agra called Shah Ganj. After the partition, the majority moved to Karachi.

    3 out of 4 of my grandparents are also Syed, only one is a non Syed, from the Punjab region.I was expecting myself to be a large proportion Persian/Middle Eastern, since Syeds moved to Mashhad and mixed there. After that, they moved to India, but didn't really mix with the local population, this makes me think that the original Arab blood got diluted after mixing with Persians for so long. I am a little surprised that I got 41% South Asian, but when I think about it, it is very possible that someone up the line mixed with a non Syed against the usual trend.

    What surprises me the most is European, I don't quite understand whereI got 7% British Isles from. I suspect it could be from my non Syed grandparent, but I'm not sure. I am planning to test my fully Syed mother to see where I got European from.

    I am curious to know what other Syed results are like and discuss how we get certain admixtures.

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    Welcome to the forum Hussain!

    What's your y-dna haplogroup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reza View Post
    Welcome to the forum Hussain!

    What's your y-dna haplogroup?
    Haven't done a y-dna test yet. I have only done the autosomal one. Do you recommend doing a y-dna test too? I was thinking of it.

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    I believe if you run your data through wegene, you may get an indication of what your y-dna haplogroup may be. It can be inaccurate for mtdna.

    Your y-dna is far more relevant regarding syed lineage than an autosomal test. Others have far more to say on the matter, and are discussing in another thread, but whilst there is no confirmation what a 'true' syed y-dna haplogroup may be (certain subclades of J1 being most likely), you can pretty much exclude it if you end up with the more common subcontinental haplogroups.

    Incidentally, have you run any other admixture calculators from Gedmatch? Post the results here if you fancy.

    Also, if you don't mind me asking, are you sunni or shia by background?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reza View Post
    I believe if you run your data through wegene, you may get an indication of what your y-dna haplogroup may be. It can be inaccurate for mtdna.

    Your y-dna is far more relevant regarding syed lineage than an autosomal test. Others have far more to say on the matter, and are discussing in another thread, but whilst there is no confirmation what a 'true' syed y-dna haplogroup may be (certain subclades of J1 being most likely), you can pretty much exclude it if you end up with the more common subcontinental haplogroups.

    Incidentally, have you run any other admixture calculators from Gedmatch? Post the results here if you fancy.

    Also, if you don't mind me asking, are you sunni or shia by background?
    How could wegene get mtDNA haplogroup guess when FF doesn't even test the mtDNA whatsoever at all? (I'm not even sure if they test any Y SNPs although perhaps they test a few????)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reza View Post
    I believe if you run your data through wegene, you may get an indication of what your y-dna haplogroup may be. It can be inaccurate for mtdna.

    Your y-dna is far more relevant regarding syed lineage than an autosomal test. Others have far more to say on the matter, and are discussing in another thread, but whilst there is no confirmation what a 'true' syed y-dna haplogroup may be (certain subclades of J1 being most likely), you can pretty much exclude it if you end up with the more common subcontinental haplogroups.

    Incidentally, have you run any other admixture calculators from Gedmatch? Post the results here if you fancy.

    Also, if you don't mind me asking, are you sunni or shia by background?
    The wegene website has no option to upload FTDNA results I've used the Gedmatch calculators, and will post the results here soon.

    I am Shia by background.

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    My mistake, I had confused ftdna with ancestry dna.

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    I am pretty sure that there is some software to get your Y-SNPs from family finder raw data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hussain.r97 View Post
    I tested myself recently, and got these results.
    Capture.PNG
    Central/South Asian (79%) (South Asia - 41%, Central Asia - 38%)
    European (10%) (British Isles - 7%, Finland and Northern Siberia - 3%)
    Middle Eastern (6%) (Asia Minor - 6%)
    East Asian (6%) (Southeast Asia - 6%)

    I was born in Pakistan, but I am from a Syed family. Syed = a descendant of Muhammad through Ali and Fatima. I am a Rizvi Syed, my family migrated from Mashhad to Halour in India, and then lived in the Uttar Pradesh region area for some time. Before the partition of India, my family were mainly in a place near Agra called Shah Ganj. After the partition, the majority moved to Karachi.

    3 out of 4 of my grandparents are also Syed, only one is a non Syed, from the Punjab region.I was expecting myself to be a large proportion Persian/Middle Eastern, since Syeds moved to Mashhad and mixed there. After that, they moved to India, but didn't really mix with the local population, this makes me think that the original Arab blood got diluted after mixing with Persians for so long. I am a little surprised that I got 41% South Asian, but when I think about it, it is very possible that someone up the line mixed with a non Syed against the usual trend.

    What surprises me the most is European, I don't quite understand whereI got 7% British Isles from. I suspect it could be from my non Syed grandparent, but I'm not sure. I am planning to test my fully Syed mother to see where I got European from.

    I am curious to know what other Syed results are like and discuss how we get certain admixtures.
    Hello Hussain

    Former Syed here, also a Raza (I turned out to be Y-dna R1b which makes more sense since we are said to descend paternally from Turkic king in India as well). Glad another Indo-Pak Shia is doing this due to how mixed many of us can be! Would love to see more data come in, thanks for sharing your info. Please be sure to start a GEDmatch account and upload your data.

    You will have to get your y-dna done at FTDNA to know if you are likely a candidate to be a Syed. J1c3d is a candidate to be the haplogroup Quraysh belong to among others (which is not native to India and comes from Middle East).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward J View Post
    I am pretty sure that there is some software to get your Y-SNPs from family finder raw data.
    That is true with Ancestry and 23andme data files. I think you mean GENO data, which would also contain SNPs from atDNA, mtDNA & Y-DNA.
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