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    Greek autosomal DNA from the Aegean and Asia Minor (Anatolia)

    Are there any Greek users (or do you know of anybody) with 100% ancestry from the Aegean islands or Asia Minor? There is a big gap in the autosomal DNA record due to the lack of such individuals. If you are (or know of anybody) in this category, please reply here as I would be extremely interested in having a look at your autosomal results. Thanks!

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    Greek Anatolian profile (2 actually a brother and a sister) from Kayseri 50%, Konya 25% and Eskisehir 25%

    Mom : Farmer 64%, Hunter-Gatherer 7%, Metal Age Invader 29%, Non-European 0%
    Uncle : Farmer 65%, Hunter-Gatherer 4%, Metal Age Invader 31%, Non-European 0%

    Mom: Asia Minor 71% Southern Europe 24% Eastern Middle East 5%
    Uncle: Asia Minor 71% Southern Europe 22% Eastern Middle East 7%

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    Great! Many thanks! Very interesting results! Do you have a Gedmatch ID for these samples? If not, I strongly suggest to upload these samples there. We will be able to make some extremely interesting comparisons.. Even better, maybe you could consider sending these to David Wesolowski from Eurogenes for his Basal-rich K7 analysis (a small donation is required for this). Check http://eurogenes.blogspot.com.cy/201...-k7-andor.html

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    Thanks for the info, i'll give Eurogenes a try. Another sample from the northern Aegean island of Thasos

    (Thasos island, Greece): Farmer 59%, Hunter-Gatherer 23%, Metal Age Invader 18%, Non-European 0%

    Southern Europe 49%, Asia Minor 35%, Eastern Europe 16%

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    Again very interesting! Notice the big difference between the Thasos individual and the other two profiles? This one resembles a typical Greek profile, possibly with some past Slavic admixture. Many thanks for sharing!

    Looking forward to discussing your Eurogenes results when ready, if you want to share them.. Thanks again.

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    Greek 50% from Cappadocia 50% from East Macedonia:

    Farmer 61%, Metal Age Invader 23%, Hunter-Gatherer 15%, Non-European 0%
    Asia Minor 46%, Southern Europe 37%, Easter Europe 12%, Eastern Middle East 5%

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    I have a few, but none from the islands. Most of them are also related to me:

    Me: FTDNA 79% Asia minor 21 % South europe (me also with ancestry dna imported to ftdna 78/21%)
    Brother: 75% asia minor 25 south europe
    Mother: 93% asia minor 7% south europe (100% anatolian greek ancestry)
    father: 64% asia minor 25 south europe 11 eastern europe (half anatolian half thracian from const/istanb)

    mother's brother: 97 asia minor 3 % eastern europe (anatolian gr)
    maternal grandmother 100 asia minor (anatolian gr)
    maternal grandmother's brother: 100 asia minor (anatolian gr)

    paternal grandmother's sister: 100 asia minor (anatolian gr)
    father's second cousin (through paternal grandfather's side) 42% asia minor, 34 south europe 24 eastern europe (100% thracian greek from const./istanb.)
    father's first cousin through paternal grandmother's brother's side: 58 asia minor 22 south europe 20 western and central europe (half anatolian half central Greece)

    non related half swede half greek (ancestry from Greece is 25% anatolian 25% western macedonia) 25 asia minor 27 south europe 43 scandinavia 4 eastern europe

    non related half swede half greek (ancestry from the greek side is 25% asia minor 25% eastern macedonia) 59 southern europe , 10% finland northern siberia, 8 western and central europe, 6 scandinavia, 4 british isles, 3 eastern europe, 8 central asia, 2 eastern middle east.


    I usually upload all of these to gedmatch so there should be plenty posts
    Other ancestral lines: Y dna: G>M406>M3302, E>V13>Z16663, J>M172>CTS904
    MtDna: I5a, J1d2a.

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    My father (half Asia Minor, half Western Macedonian):

    42 Asia Minor, 38 Southern Europe, 20 Eastern Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chatzianastasoglou View Post
    My father (half Asia Minor, half Western Macedonian):

    42 Asia Minor, 38 Southern Europe, 20 Eastern Europe
    Thanks Chatzianastasoglou. Do you have Cypriot ancesatry by the way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amathusian View Post
    Thanks Chatzianastasoglou. Do you have Cypriot ancesatry by the way?
    No, that's just because Cyprus is a Greek state, too.

    Im quite mixed. 25% from Anatolia, 25% from Macedonia (=father) and 50% from Epirus (=mother).

    My father is just 50% Anatolian but perhaps it helps. His K13 results


    K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 26.34
    2 West_Med 22.58
    3 North_Atlantic 16.96
    4 West_Asian 16.42
    5 Baltic 13.67
    6 Red_Sea 2.55


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Central_Greek @ 5.350992
    2 Greek_Thessaly @ 6.468545
    3 East_Sicilian @ 7.757215
    4 Italian_Abruzzo @ 8.183214
    5 West_Sicilian @ 9.992779
    6 South_Italian @ 10.041720
    7 Ashkenazi @ 12.380610
    8 Tuscan @ 13.569579
    9 Bulgarian @ 14.579862
    10 Romanian @ 17.291784
    11 Algerian_Jewish @ 17.596489
    12 Sephardic_Jewish @ 17.778383
    13 Italian_Jewish @ 17.977381
    14 North_Italian @ 19.149132
    15 Tunisian_Jewish @ 21.955269
    16 Serbian @ 22.351818
    17 Libyan_Jewish @ 22.409407
    18 Cyprian @ 22.761358
    19 Turkish @ 23.429163
    20 Lebanese_Muslim @ 26.160957

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Central_Greek +50% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.159924


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bulgarian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Sardinian @ 3.421864


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Armenian + Italian_Jewish + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.051877
    2 Armenian + Belorussian + Cyprian + Sardinian @ 3.108569
    3 Armenian + Cyprian + Estonian + Sardinian @ 3.170698
    4 Armenian + Sardinian + Sephardic_Jewish + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.180985
    5 Armenian + Cyprian + Finnish + Sardinian @ 3.283872
    6 Armenian + Cyprian + Polish + Sardinian @ 3.322408
    7 Armenian + Sardinian + Sephardic_Jewish + Southwest_Russian @ 3.362995
    8 Armenian + Italian_Jewish + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.363891
    9 Armenian + Cyprian + Sardinian + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.388775
    10 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian @ 3.421864
    11 Armenian + Cyprian + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 3.444054
    12 Armenian + Cyprian + Sardinian + South_Polish @ 3.453994
    13 Armenian + Cyprian + Estonian_Polish + Sardinian @ 3.456756
    14 Armenian + Estonian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 3.476501
    15 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Central_Greek @ 3.567668
    16 Armenian + Sardinian + Tunisian_Jewish + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.572845
    17 Armenian + Cyprian + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.581363
    18 Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.594439
    19 Cyprian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.600568
    20 Armenian + Cyprian + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 3.623379








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    This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
    Questions about results should be sent to him at: [email protected]
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    Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 24.05
    2 West_Med 19.16
    3 North_Sea 16.99
    4 West_Asian 16.41
    5 Baltic 8.46
    6 Atlantic 6.90
    7 Eastern_Euro 4.48
    8 Red_Sea 2.67


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.355673
    2 Central_Greek @ 10.434028
    3 East_Sicilian @ 11.746453
    4 Ashkenazi @ 11.778436
    5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 12.737460
    6 Greek @ 13.264010
    7 South_Italian @ 13.693043
    8 Tuscan @ 15.636069
    9 West_Sicilian @ 15.851710
    10 Bulgarian @ 17.174557
    11 Italian_Jewish @ 17.735003
    12 Romanian @ 18.484219
    13 Sephardic_Jewish @ 20.014145
    14 Algerian_Jewish @ 20.074167
    15 North_Italian @ 21.069071
    16 Serbian @ 22.015732
    17 Libyan_Jewish @ 22.097607
    18 Tunisian_Jewish @ 23.812155
    19 Cyprian @ 23.901960
    20 Turkish @ 24.071169

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Central_Greek +50% Greek_Thessaly @ 8.352939


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Assyrian +25% Sardinian +25% Swedish @ 8.249183


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Spanish_Galicia @ 7.837196
    2 Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly @ 7.906631
    3 Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 8.038363
    4 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly @ 8.051839
    5 Armenian + Assyrian + Sardinian + Swedish @ 8.057163
    6 Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + West_German @ 8.062609
    7 Armenian + Assyrian + North_Swedish + Sardinian @ 8.191891
    8 Armenian + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Swedish @ 8.233801
    9 Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Portuguese @ 8.234939
    10 Armenian + Assyrian + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 8.248930
    11 Assyrian + Assyrian + Sardinian + Swedish @ 8.249183
    12 Armenian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + West_German @ 8.252642
    13 Assyrian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + West_German @ 8.265647
    14 Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + South_Italian + West_German @ 8.275228
    15 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + South_Italian @ 8.295702
    16 East_Sicilian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly @ 8.318786
    17 Armenian + Assyrian + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 8.320426
    18 Assyrian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Spanish_Galicia @ 8.326842
    19 Armenian + French + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly @ 8.332685
    20 Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + West_German @ 8.345661
    Last edited by Chatzianastasoglou; 03-24-2017 at 11:19 PM.

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