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    Living DNA Results and analysis here!

    My Documentary Ancestry over the past 280 years, divided into Living DNA sub regions, might suggest something like:

    100% European
    100% British Isles

    77% East Anglia
    12% Southern Central England / Southern England
    6% Lincolnshire
    5% Unknown.

    More information on the link in my signature.

    23andMe in AC spec (unphased), said:

    Y haplogroup L2* mt haplogroup H6a1

    100% European (94% NW European. 3% Southern European. 3% Broadly European).

    32% British & Irish
    27% French & German
    7% Scandinavian
    29% Broadly NW European
    2% Broadly Southern European (including 0.5% Iberian)

    FT-DNA got me as:

    Y haplogroup L-SK1414 (L1b2c) via Y111, Big Y tests, etc, and mt haplogroup H6a1a8 via mtFull Sequence.

    Family Finder:

    100% European.

    36% British Isles
    32% Southern Europe
    26% Scandinavia
    6% Eastern Europe

    Living DNA Standard Mode 2017-01-30

    100% European
    Regional:
    74% Great Britain & Ireland
    10% Europe (South)
    7% Europe (North and West)
    10% Europe (unassigned).

    Sub-regional:

    39% East Anglia
    8% South Central England
    5% South East England
    5% Lincolnshire

    2.5% Cornwall
    2.4% North Yorkshire
    2% South England
    1.9% Devon
    1.6% Central England
    1.5% North West England
    1.3% South Yorkshire
    1.2% Northumbria

    3.5% unassigned Great Britain & Ireland

    10% Tuscany (Europe South)
    5% Scandinavia (Europe North and West)
    2% Germanic (Europe North and West)
    9.7% Europe unassigned.





    Last edited by A Norfolk L-M20; 01-31-2017 at 11:36 PM.
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    Thanks for that , I think from a auDNA perspective mine seems to make sense , I have done a rough report of my locations of birth for GGPs

    GGP Essex, London, Berkshire, Suflok, Bengal (English ex-pat)
    2GGP Armagh (English ex-pat), Surrey, Middlesex, Kent, Berkshire, Cambridgeshire, Suffolk, Staffordshire, Lomdon
    3GGP Devon, Dorset, Cornwall, Kent, Berkshire, Surrey, Cambridgeshire, Sufflolk, Staffordshire, London,IoW, Wiltshire, Norfolk, Essex
    4GGP Devon, Somerset, Dorset, Cornwall, Kent, Berkshire, Surrey, Cambridghire, Suffolk , Staffordhire, Oxfordshire, Herffordshire, IoW, Essex, Wiltshire,
    5GGP Devon, Somerset, Dorset, Cornwall, Kent, Berkshire, Surrey, Cambridghire, Suffolk , Staffordhire, Oxfordshire, Herffordshire, IoW, Essex, Wiltshire,
    6GGP Devon, Somerset, Cornwall, Kent, IoW, Buckinghamsjire, Berkshire, Gloucestershire, Surrey, Cambridgeshire, Staffordshire, Essex
    7GGP Devon, Dorset, Cornwall, Kent, Berkshire, Surrey, Cambridgeshire, Staffordshire, IoW, Essex
    8GGP Devon, Dorset, Cornwall, Kent, Berkshire, Cambridgeshire, Staffordshire,
    9GGP Dorset, Cornwal, Kent, Cambridgeshire, Staffordshire, Somerset,
    10GGP Somerset, Kent, Cambrdigeshire, Staffordshire
    11GGP Somerset, Kent, Cambrdigeshire, Essex, Staffordshire
    12GGP Somerset

    Obviously the smaller groups more generations are due more to gaps in paper trail rather than all in one area , but that seen alongside my results doesn't seem so bad, I wonder if the Lincolnshire reflects Cambridge shire or Staffordshire?

    LivingDNA Result

    Southeast England 27%
    South England 17.8%
    Lincolnshire 9.3%
    Devon 7.4%
    East Anglia 4.7%
    Cornwall 4.5%
    South Central England 4.3%
    Central England 3.8%
    South Yorkshire 3.7%
    Northumbria 2.6%
    Aberdeenshire 2.5%
    North Wales 1.4%
    Southwest Scotland and Northern Ireland 1.4%
    South Wales 1.4%
    Europe (unassigned) 8%

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    MtDNA - Jordan , Woodham Mortimer, Essex, England , c1800
    Misc bloodlines - Cambridgeshire, Somerset, Kent, Hampshire, Staffs, Devon, Cornwall

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    Hi Everyone,

    One feature that I think you will find really useful is when we launch the Cautious Mode and Complete mode, we are on track to complete this during the month of February,

    Warm Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt_?? View Post
    OMG !! I'm more friggin "British" than A Norfolk L-M20: Great Britain and Ireland - 85.3%

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    I am totally amazed!! National Geographic Geno 2.0 NG gave my Primary Population as German and my Secondary as Dutch. {A lot of German on the maternal sides.} This is a screenshot of my GENO 2.0 NG results: Western and Central Europe - 53%, Great Britain & Ireland - 38%, Asia Minor - 4% .

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    I'm wondering how my Living DNA results are possible after 6 generations in the USA ?!

    Thanks a lot ADW_1981 !!
    How does it tie to known ancestry and surnames?
    yDNA: L1b2c L-SK1414 (Oxon/Berks at Generation 9)
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    OMG !! I'm more friggin "British" than A Norfolk L-M20: Great Britain and Ireland - 85.3%

    I am totally amazed!! National Geographic Geno 2.0 NG gave my Primary Population as German and my Secondary as Dutch. {A lot of German on the maternal sides.} This is a screenshot of my GENO 2.0 NG results: Western and Central Europe - 53%, Great Britain & Ireland - 38%, Asia Minor - 4% .

    LIVING DNA results:

    Sub Regional Results: Lincolnshire - 15.3%, Central England - 12.5%, Southeast England - 7.8%, Northwest England 7.5%, Northwest Scotland - 6.5%, South Wales Border - 4.9%, Devon - 4.8%, Cornwall - 4.1%, Aberdeenshire - 3.9%, Northumbria - 3.8%, Southwest Scotland & NI - 1.5%, South Wales - 1.4%, Orkley - 1.3%, Great Britain & Ireland (unassigned) - 9.9%, Europe (unassigned) - 8.8%. Near East / North Turkey - 4.4% World (unassigned) - 1.5%

    PATERNAL: R - U152, L20 .

    MATERNAL: H1, H1b


    I'm wondering how my Living DNA autosomal results are possible after 6 generations in the USA ?!

    Thanks a lot ADW_1981 !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Nicholson View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    One feature that I think you will find really useful is when we launch the Cautious Mode and Complete mode, we are on track to complete this during the month of February,

    Warm Regards

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    Last edited by Solothurn; 02-08-2017 at 06:52 PM.
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    Ancestry:


    England, Wales & Northwestern Europe 50%
    Northern England, Ireland and Scotland 39%
    Norway 5%
    Sweden 4%
    Germanic Europe 2%


    My known English ancestral lines:

    U152: A9024/BY3644 @ Vallum Aelium
    H1c3b Salford (mother)
    U4a3a Biddick, Durham (paternal grandfather's mother)
    U198 Stanhope, Durham (paternal gg grandfather)
    K1a-T195C! Wigan, Lancs (paternal grandmother)

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    you score 9.6% tuscany
    do you think it is roman genes ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
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    you score 9.6% tuscany
    do you think it is roman genes ?
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    Open minded. Against recorded ancestry and family history, I find it difficult to account for 10% in recent family admixture. It's possible a Southern 5xgreat grandparent here and there, maybe one slightly more recently, but 10% suggests more recent if it was real family admixture, or on multiple lines which seems even less likely. My feeling is population background (Norman Medieval, Roman, etc) - but I'll wait until I've seen a lot more English tester's results before I develop any opinion. The English on 23andMe more often than not, test a small percentage of Southern European. FT-DNA FF My Origins gave me 32% South European! Living DNA themselves report: "... if you are a mixture of French and German, you may appear to have North-Italian like ancestry. ".

    I don't know. My auDNA results do appear to be atypical for English, never mind British. They are on the extreme of Continental. In some tests they sometimes also have an enhanced "Southern European" aspect - although as I said, most English have a touch of this. On ancient DNA calculators we tend to have slightly more Neolithic Farmer, slightly less ANE than either the Irish, or Scandinavians. I do think that admixture during the Romano-British period remains understated, even my Y "could" have arrived here then, although I feel medieval slightly more likely. My family history and recorded ancestry is strongly rural East Anglian - with my mother's side in particular, clustered in East Norfolk, right on the Anglo-Saxon and Anglo-Danish front line. Would it also be stupid to mention or suggest the randomness of genetic recombination? For example, on 23andMe split view (phased with my mother) I appear to have pretty much inherited all of her "French & German" segments, in addition to generous percentages presumably from my father. Phased split view results in 23andMe also suggest that I inherit Southern European from BOTH parents (1% each) - no surprise, because as I said, most English have a small percentage of Southern European.

    I have been a big skeptic of auDNA tests for Ancestry. Although the Living DNA test has impressed me for correctly ascertaining much of my English ancestry into regions (although certainly not perfectly), I do not take ANY auDNA test results as infallible. The Tuscany signal is quite strong. I'll keep an open mind for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt_?? View Post
    OMG !! I'm more friggin "British" than A Norfolk L-M20: Great Britain and Ireland - 85.3%

    I am totally amazed!! National Geographic Geno 2.0 NG gave my Primary Population as German and my Secondary as Dutch. {A lot of German on the maternal sides.} This is a screenshot of my GENO 2.0 NG results: Western and Central Europe - 53%, Great Britain & Ireland - 38%, Asia Minor - 4% .

    LIVING DNA results:

    Sub Regional Results: Lincolnshire - 15.3%, Central England - 12.5%, Southeast England - 7.8%, Northwest England 7.5%, Northwest Scotland - 6.5%, South Wales Border - 4.9%, Devon - 4.8%, Cornwall - 4.1%, Aberdeenshire - 3.9%, Northumbria - 3.8%, Southwest Scotland & NI - 1.5%, South Wales - 1.4%, Orkley - 1.3%, Great Britain & Ireland (unassigned) - 9.9%, Europe (unassigned) - 8.8%. Near East / North Turkey - 4.4% World (unassigned) - 1.5%

    PATERNAL: R - U152, L20 .

    MATERNAL: H1, H1b


    I'm wondering how my Living DNA autosomal results are possible after 6 generations in the USA ?!

    Thanks a lot ADW_1981 !!
    Just out of interest, how far back in time do your 6 generations go?

    Tbh, I'm not surprised about your high percentage of British ancestry, there must be large amounts of British ancestry in the Appalachians.

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