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Thread: Any interest in a Haplogroup and/or Subclade Badge/Shield Design?

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    Another take on the same idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellSince1893 View Post
    Thank you for your feedback Richard. Yes I could see how the Y shape could become redundant if other haplogroups followed suit.

    So alps, bow/arrow and/or horse?

    Rough idea based on the above (colors just chosen to be natural, but they could be any combination)



    Black and white version

    I like these... a lot!
    Paternal: R1b-U152 >> L2 >> FGC10543, Pietro della Rocca, b. 1559, Agira, Sicily, Italy
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    Mother's Paternal: J1+ FGC4745/FGC4766+ PF5019+, Gerardo Caprio, b. 1879, Caposele, Avellino, Campania, Italy
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.Rocca View Post
    I like these... a lot!
    did you see this version? http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post216518

    EDIT: Or maybe something more like this from an ancient coin

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    Hello, I am not an expert on heraldry, but I think it would be a good idea if the main image was a representation of the place of origin of the main haplogroup, for example the Alps for U152. Then to the left a representation of the Culture, as indicated by Richard, the horses, the bow and the arrow, and the right a characteristic of the subclass. And down the name of the subclass and even the age of the latter? The colors I think could bring you the elements of the images that are added, the colors that nature gives to each of the elements represented.

    Well, the place of the images where it can be more beautiful, up, down, left, right, center ...

    What is your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravai View Post
    Hello, I am not an expert on heraldry, but I think it would be a good idea if the main image was a representation of the place of origin of the main haplogroup, for example the Alps for U152. Then to the left a representation of the Culture, as indicated by Richard, the horses, the bow and the arrow, and the right a characteristic of the subclass. And down the name of the subclass and even the age of the latter? The colors I think could bring you the elements of the images that are added, the colors that nature gives to each of the elements represented.

    Well, the place of the images where it can be more beautiful, up, down, left, right, center ...

    What is your opinion?

    Regards
    I would avoid dates as they are a moving target. Also I would recommend as a general rule keeping alphanumerics outside the shield. One idea is to put subclade names above or below as seen on my avatar.

    As far a cultural symbols representing subclades, one has to keep in mind that new discoveries are constantly being made. For example what if a subclade is currently thought to be La Tene or Hallstatt origin, and later it is learned that it is mostly of Italo or Iberian origin with a few outlier Celts? The Celtic symbology would then seem out of place as the majority might be of non Celtic origin.

    An idea might be to use a border with a cultural design in it. Thus not affecting the basic design as new information is learned.
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    Other variants with silhouette style horses

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellSince1893 View Post
    Other variants with silhouette style horses

    All very nice.

    Of course, this is just my opinion but I think the one on the bottom right is the nicest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    All very nice.

    Of course, this is just my opinion but I think the one on the bottom right is the nicest.
    I think that's more heraldicly correct the first on the right: a horse salient is a well established heraldic figure.

    I was thinking about the possibility to have a shield crossed, then with four quarters to fill with heraldic figures: in the first an heraldic mount, in the second the bow and arrow, in the third a horse salient, in the fourth I don't know.
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    One idea is you build "U152" into the design via how it's laid out.

    For example



    Or two arrows version
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    I like the two arrows
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