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    Living DNA - the Y

    Living DNA uses a chip that tests a generous 22,500 Y-SNPs. The first results have only recently started to come through, and the company has reported here, that these results are not finalised on the Y, that they still have some work to do on reporting Y-DNA haplogroups. They have not yet reported any Y for myself, my Living DNA portal still reports RESULTS PROCESSING.

    I thought that it would be worthwhile starting a thread here, where we can report, compare, and discuss Y-DNA as reported to us by Living DNA.
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    At FTDNA, I got the common predicted R-M269 but then based on the STR results and matches, I was able to see (with help of Dennis Wright/Irish Type III Project Admin) that I was likely Irish Type III/R-L226 and confirmed via an SNP pack to get R-FGC12290.

    At 23andMe, I was given R1B1B2A1A2F* (as an international user, I'm still on the old experience). I also believe that designation is based on an old tree. I think it is R-L21.

    Living DNA has done better than 23andMe and the initial STR test at FTDNA by giving me R-Z2534; not as far down as Irish Type III but great for an initial test. People would then have to go elsewhere to get further down the tree/most likely FTDNA, unless of course LivingDNA start offering other Y products. FTDNA are great for having their matching database and Projects. It will be interesting to see if the Phase 2 of matching that LivingDNA will also match on the Y (see the DNA matching thread) as they've said it will be matching on all information gained from the chip, so doesn't that imply that it will?
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    After initially getting my 67 STR marker results, FTDNA designated me as predicted I-M253. My I1-Z140 administrator correctly predicted from those STR results that I would be I-Y3649. Living DNA has assigned me I-S2169 aka F2642 which is fairly decent but also fairly far above I-Y3649 (which can be seen by the YFull tree below).

    After sending in my sample to Living DNA, I also had a BigY test done that showed that I've split the I-L234 branch which should show up on YFul's tree sometime this month. Until then, I am currently under YFull's L234 branch but I'm L234 negative. So I am really I-Y7198 which is what the new branch will probably be called once YFull recalibrates.

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    Probably more than you wanted to know but there you go.
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    I was quite surprised that they picked up my U106 Z326 which I had from my Chromo 2 test. I guess it's one that they could pick up easily? John

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    They gave me as E-35 subclade E-V68 at first . I emailed them and they recalculated it as E-V13. That's better though still off from what yfull(E-Z16664) and FTDNA (E-BY5219) say.
    A member of the double helix E forum has me as the only E-BY5220 so far but that seems not to be counted as a subclade.

    Living dna did basically say that the Y assignment was very much a work in progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Norfolk L-M20 View Post
    Living DNA uses a chip
    Previous chip-based SNP tests couldn't 'see' DF27, I wonder if known downstream subclades are covered by this one. Have any DF27>ZZ12 (Z195-) got a y result from it?

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    23 and me J1c, R1a1a=M417
    Tribecode. J1c, R1a1a1b2a2a=Z2123
    FTDNA. J1c, R-M198
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    BigY. >M198>M417>Z645>Z93>Z94>Z2124>Z2125>Z2123>Y934>Y15 121>Y19715>YP5842

    Yes, I agree LDNA has some way to go on YDNA. The best of the lot was Tribecode. I have their pop. breakdown on my laptop. Will post later.

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    Living DNA put me a R-M269 and sub R-L151

    My FTDNA Y test also put be at R-M269, I then did a Big Y which put me in R-MC21 which I believe is under CTS2501/S836 • DF41/S524/CTS6581

    Not sure where R-L151 is and I haven't been taken any further down
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    To be honest I didn't see this as a Y tool, more related to regional ancestor distribution but if they can do something to develop understanding of Y DNA in a different way great. John

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    Quote Originally Posted by corner View Post
    Previous chip-based SNP tests couldn't 'see' DF27, I wonder if known downstream subclades are covered by this one. Have any DF27>ZZ12 (Z195-) got a y result from it?
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    Yep. R-M153, I'm having it double checked but it would make sense with my known ancestry.

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