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    Well one of my go to sources is Patrick Wolfe's book on Irish surnames from 1923, it's still in print. As it's now out of copyright you can search it online
    http://www.libraryireland.com/names/contents.php

    so mar shampla:
    http://www.libraryireland.com/names/...nn-de-lein.php
    de LÉIGHINN, de LÉIN—XI—de Lane, Lane; Norman 'de Lane,' Middle English 'atte Lane,' i.e., at the Lane, from residence thereby; a very rare surname in Ireland, nearly all our Lanes being of Irish origin.
    http://www.libraryireland.com/names/ol/o-laighin.php
    Ó LAIGHIN—I—O Loyne, O Layne, O Leyne, O Lyne, O Lyen, O Lane, O Leane, O Lien, O Lyan, O'Leyne, O'Lane, O'Lyons, Layne, Leyne, Lyne, Lane, Leane, Lean, Leen, Lyons, &c.; 'descendant of Laighean' (lance, spear); the name (1) of an ancient family in Co. Galway, who retained considerable property in the barony of Kilconnell down to the end of the 17th century; (2) of a Kildare family, formerly seated at Cill, now anglicised Kill, near Naas; and (3) of an old Kerry family. The name is now very common all over Ireland. It appears to have been sometimes pronounced Ó Laoighin. In Kerry at the present day it is generally pronounced Ó Leighin, and sometimes Ó Lighin.
    http://www.libraryireland.com/names/ol/o-leathain.php
    Ó LEATHÁIN—I—O Lahan, O Laane, Laine, Lane; probably a corruption of Ó Liatháin, which see; in use in the neighbourhood of Shrule, but very rare.
    etc. One caveat I would mention is that you will always have to expand Mc to Mac when doing a search. John Grenham's blog is useful resource as well, particulary his mapping tools as post upthread
    https://www.johngrenham.com/surnames/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubhthach View Post
    I wouldn't call that map a scientific list of surnames. In comparison here is the Griffith Survey data for the surname 'Lane' note the high number of households in Cork

    https://www.johngrenham.com/findasur...p?surname=Lane

    There was over 300 households in Cork (county and city) bearing the name in mid 19th century
    Hello Dubhtach,

    Thank you for posting that interesting link. It has allowed me to possibly confirm something I've assumed but didn't know for sure. My 2cd MDKA, James McBryde was originally from Galloway and according to what's been passed down through the years, his family was part of the MacBryde branch of the MacDonald Clan of the Isles

    My earliest known document for him is a marriage certificate from 1758 that records his marriage to Mary Tate in Glasserton, Wigtownshire, Scotland. Four years later they migrated to Northern Ireland and then in 1772 they came to America, where they received a land grant for 300 acres in South Carolina.

    All of my exact & one step surname matches, whose MDKAs post date mine, list their MDKAs as being from Antrim, Ireland. I have always assumed that they were probably originally from Scotland but were unable to trace their ancestors back that far. So I found the following underlined portion to be of interest, as it was unknown to me.

    "The principal Irish family of the name (McBride) were based in the north of Co. Donegal in Raymunterdoney, where they were very prominent in the church, a number of the family becoming bishops. A branch migrated to Co. Down in early times, where the surname remains quite numerous. "In Ulster also, the name may have a Scottish origin, from the descendants of one Gillebride, progenitor of one branch of the Clan Donald".

    So perhaps, another piece of the puzzle.

    Thanks, again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubhthach View Post
    I wouldn't call that map a scientific list of surnames.
    It's only a tea towel.
    Hopefully Irish linen.

    Thank you for your mentions of some good sources.

    These sort of media - tea towels and household bric-a-brac, clan memorabilia and the like - may not be authoritative, but in the absence of other, better sources, they still have the ability to tug the heart-strings. As such they can be useful tools for family history society displays, whether within the society or as part of outreach.
    As a youngster, many years ago I saw something similar for Scotland while waiting for my father to finish the shopping.
    It incited interest in finding out. While at the same time showing me some of the flaws in such a map.

    We certainly need authoritative sources of information.
    We also need to inspire people to join groups who share our interest.

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    My last name is Hill. Not sure if it's even on there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryLeeloo94 View Post
    My last name is Hill. Not sure if it's even on there.
    A Web page about the surname Hill in Ireland:
    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....heraldry2.html
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    The johngrenham.com site is interesting.

    One of my brick walls is James Craney b. ?? in Ireland, children b. 1839-1854 in Indiana, maybe in the army around 1850, maybe dead or just missing/gone from the family by 1856 (and not with them in the 1850 census either).

    Craney surprised me with how uncommon it seemed to be (in the US, I mean, although it doesn't seem to be very common in Ireland either), as somehow it seemed like a common enough name before I starting searching for it.

    The map puts the name almost entirely in the north -- Belfast or County Armagh (especially Lurgan). Cranny spelling seems more common and found more in the south.

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    http://www.libraryireland.com/names/...c-de-burca.php

    It is not letting me copy and paste it, on my smartphone, long story short : My last name Burke is one of the three most important ruling class Norman names in Ireland. It is now somewhat common but the Normans were Celto-Germanic and the average score for an Irishman , on AncestryDNA , is 93% insular Celtic were I score 52 % insular celtic, 37% Anglo-Saxon and 6% Scandinavian while still having my only genetic community being Ulster Irish. It seems I come from a direct line of Hibernian-Norman nobles from Donegal_Ireland not to be considered 'mere Irish' by the British. Nothing against the more Celtic Irish, of course, I am just saying.
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