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    Quote Originally Posted by Romilius View Post
    And these are the results for RISE1164:

    from the Y SNPs report file:
    PF3529-, PF6026-, PF6811-, Y1192-, S27554+, S3053-, ZS69-, S3054-, Z12857-, Z3238-, L558-, PF7408-, PR1252-, PR1254-, PR1255-, S12909+, PF1382-, S12911+, Z16021-, PF425-, PF427+, PF429+, PF1385-, PF432+, PF433+, S12945-, K160-, PF6730-, PF6816-, PF6817-, S12977-, S12978-, S12979-, S12980-, S12981-, PF436-, K161-, PF3332-, YSC0000100+, YSC0000101-, S13018-, Z5345-, S13052-, S13053-, S13054-, PF441-, S13064-, S13065-, S13108-, S13128-, Z5346-, Z15140-, PF1386-, PF3200-, S13195+, Z15206-, Z3239-, Z7237-, Z15141-, Z5347-, PF7486-, PF1391-, PF451+, FGC599-, Z6655-, PF459-, Z14033-, PF5611-, Z2264-, S13613-, S13614-, PF465-, ZS144-, Z15295-, PF478+, PF479+, ZS208+, ZS315-, Z28836-, PF493+, S5489-, ZS202-, PF501-, S13761-, YSC0000247-, Z13901-, PF506+, Z14038-, Z5357-, Z14409-, PF516-, Z13708-, Z15144-, Y1197-, S13782-, Z6040-, Z13374-, PF531-, Z16984-, ZS316-, PF545-, PF1393-, S13785-, YSC0000006-, S13801-, S13824-, S13825-, S13830-, Z6310-, S26893+, S13966-, F1662-, S26895-, S13973-, PF6820+, YSC0000125-, YSC0000126-, YSC0000127-, YSC0000129-, YSC0000130-, S14108-, S26896-, S14133-, S14142-, S14145-, S14147-, S14163-, PF1395-, Z2568-, Z7818-, Z2306-, Z14732-, PF554+, S14199-, PF555-, PF562+, Z14734-, S26898-, PF576+, Z12153-, PF1968-, PF7622-, PF602-, Z12869-, Z3258-, S14393-, GG316-, S14405-, PF4685-, Z2354-, S5092-, YSC0000139-, YSC0000140-, S14510-, Z4568-, Z12872-, Z13524-, PF2919-, PF621-, Z12283-, S14590-, PF3693-, Z2644-, Y779-, YSC0000142-, Z12873-, S14739-, S27773-, YSC0000149-, YSC0000150-, YSC0000151-, Z3274-, PF627+, Z3277-, S14969-, Z14274-, Z5390-, YSC0000161-, PF633-, M7621-, Z14052-, Y897-, PF5022-, CTS2048-, CTS2175-, PF7611-, CTS2506-, M3519-, PF2945-, CTS2764+, S16042+, CTS2896-, CTS2939-, M7463-, Z4576-, CTS3888-, CTS3967-, PF4712-, YP734-, CTS4426-, CTS4498-, M8595-, M1001-, F2069-, PR5780-, PR5781-, PR2088-, CTS5543-, Z3335-, CTS5945-, CTS6361-, S5706-, F2300-, F376-, CTS7528-, M2061-, CTS7726-, S20182-, CTS8470-, M2578-, PF5805-, F4254-, CTS8976-, CTS8977-, CTS9488-, S21925-, CTS10010-, Z2428-, CTS10367-, CTS10368-, YSC0000216+, S27116-, S22641-, F3821-, F3148-, M6448-, PF7081-, Z6030+, Z1465-, Z5757-, M10994-, M6312-, M3902-, M6524-, M8517-, Z31880-, Z14396-, Y62-, S5663-, PR7342-, PR7343-, M11695-, CTS11942-, M5575-, M4581-, M8946-, PR4125-, M6351-, M2132-, CTS12067-, M2354-, M938-, M3849-, CTS12378-, CTS12379-, CTS12419-, CTS12436-, CTS12449+, S4803+, CTS12450+, S4062+, CTS12451-, CTS12463-, CTS12464-, CTS12542+, PF1328+, M9422-, CTS12770-, CTS12771-, Y1295-, P397-, S26519-, S26569-, S26576-, S27707+, CTS304-, Z5069-, PF5462+, S27508-, S8568+, Z15774-, PF5467-, Z1912-, S3136-, S7418-, S26581-, S26582+, S26583+, S26584+, S26590-, S3140-, Z4824-, S7810-, Y1168-, Z2032-, Z17013-, M4354-, CTS466-, CTS565-, Z2700-, PR685-, M4437-, V25-, PR686-, M4260-, PR4810-, PR4811-, PR4812-, S11131-, F1314-, Z300-, M11178-, K494-, Z6306-, PF362+, PF1377-, PF381+, PF382+, PF384+, PF389+, PF393+, PF395-, F4158-, PF6809-, PF401+, K159-, Z4208-, PF1594-, S3045+, S3048-, Z14795-, Z2293-, Z12176-, Y755-, PF409-, PF6810-, PF410-, PF411+, PF412-, Z15345-, PF413-, PF1378-, K496-, L1115-, PR1213-, L1213-, PR1215-, L64-, PR1216-, PR1217+, L293-, PR1218-, PR1219-, PR1220-, PR1221+, YSC0000086-, YSC0086-, YSC0000087-, YSC0000088+, YSC0088+, YSC0000089+, YSC0089+, YSC0000090-, YSC0090-, Z5982-, S12879-, Z15734-, PR4945-, PR4946+, PR1226+, PR1228-, PR4949-, PR1231-, PR1232-, PR1233-, PR4956-, PR4957-, PF415+, S3050+, Z16134-, Y1348-

    And from the ISOGG Y haplogroup report file:
    # Mutation ISOGG-Y-Haplogroup
    CTS4803 = G2a2b2a1b1a1b1
    PF627 = BT
    Z930/CTS3045 = E1a
    All three of these samples have too much DNA and too little Y-chromosome reads. They are very likely females.
    Paternal: R1b-U152 >> L2 >> FGC10543 >> PR5365, Pietro Rocca, b. 1559, Agira, Sicily, Italy
    Maternal: H4a1-T152C!, Maria Coto, b. ~1864, Galicia, Spain
    Mother's Paternal: J1+ FGC4745/FGC4766+ PF5019+, Gerardo Caprio, b. 1879, Caposele, Avellino, Campania, Italy
    Father's Maternal: T2b-C150T, Francisca Santa Cruz, b.1916, Garganchon, Burgos, Spain
    Paternal Great (x3) Grandfather: R1b-U106 >> L48 >> CTS2509, Filippo Ensabella, b.~1836, Agira, Sicily, Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    I got a read for G2a2b2a1b1a1b1 CTS4803 for Hallstatt Bylany Celtic sample DA112:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post543781

    There was another Hallstatt Celtic sample with G2a2b2a1b before (from Mitterkirchen):

    Sample HÜ-I/8, Mitterkirchen, Hallstatt culture, ca. 700 BC - G2a2b2a1b-L497
    DA112 was a female.
    Paternal: R1b-U152 >> L2 >> FGC10543 >> PR5365, Pietro Rocca, b. 1559, Agira, Sicily, Italy
    Maternal: H4a1-T152C!, Maria Coto, b. ~1864, Galicia, Spain
    Mother's Paternal: J1+ FGC4745/FGC4766+ PF5019+, Gerardo Caprio, b. 1879, Caposele, Avellino, Campania, Italy
    Father's Maternal: T2b-C150T, Francisca Santa Cruz, b.1916, Garganchon, Burgos, Spain
    Paternal Great (x3) Grandfather: R1b-U106 >> L48 >> CTS2509, Filippo Ensabella, b.~1836, Agira, Sicily, Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.Rocca View Post
    too little Y-chromosome reads. They are very likely females.
    But very specific (G2a2b2a1b1a1b1 CTS4803, while usually females only get very basic ones like CT or BT, if anything).

    Telegony is real?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romilius View Post
    From this site provided by R. Rocca:
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/PRJEB28451
    Ah, these are Polish GAC samples. Some new ones or the same as before (all of whom had I2 haplogroup IIRC)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.Rocca View Post
    The data is available but I could not find the paper. I tried to download the files but they are very large and their server is very slow and the connections continue to time out. So, I was only able to download the files and do the Y-chromosome assignments for these four males:
    Quote Originally Posted by Romilius View Post
    You are right: I tried to download the first BAM file... the page loads to infinity and beyond!
    It was just a temporary issue. They slowed down in the 2nd half of January and I had the same problem. It is normal again since 29 January.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    But very specific (G2a2b2a1b1a1b1 CTS4803, while usually females only get very basic ones like CT or BT, if anything).

    Telegony is real?
    By comparison, here is the amount of positive reads one of the male GAC samples has:

    marker_name haplogroup
    FGC26802 A00
    FGC27114 A00
    FGC27231 A00
    A2597 A00
    L1116 A0-T
    L1118 A0-T
    L1120 A0-T
    L1121 A0-T
    L1123 A0-T
    L1124 A0-T
    L1127 A0-T
    L1128 A0-T
    L1129 A0-T
    L1130 A0-T
    L1132 A0-T
    L1135 A0-T
    L1136 A0-T
    L1137 A0-T
    L1142 A0-T
    L1143 A0-T
    L1145 A0-T
    L1155 A0-T
    L1085 A0-T
    L1105 A0-T
    V250 A1
    V168 A1
    L1084 A1
    V174 A1
    L985 A1
    V238 A1
    V241 A1
    L986 A1
    Z11918 A1b
    Z11910 A1b
    FGC8027 A1b
    P108 A1b
    Z11891 A1b
    Z17896 A1b
    L1009 A1b
    Z11893 A1b
    Z17897 A1b
    Z11917 A1b
    Z17898 A1b
    Z11913 A1b
    L1013 A1b
    Z11894 A1b
    Z11902 A1b
    Z11895 A1b
    Z11892 A1b
    Z11916 A1b
    Z11899 A1b
    Z11915 A1b
    L989 A1b
    Z17900 A1b
    Z11911 A1b
    Z11901 A1b
    Z11898 A1b
    Z17892 A1b
    Z11903 A1b
    M7647 B2b1a2~
    Z38053 B2b1a2a~
    Z38171 B2b1a2a~
    Z38173 B2b1a2a~
    L418 BT
    Z40374 BT
    Z40376 BT
    Z40378 BT
    Z40400 BT
    Z40379 BT
    Z40380 BT
    Z17371 BT
    Z40381 BT
    Y8488 BT
    Z40402 BT
    Y8316 BT
    Z40404 BT
    M9075 BT
    M9076 BT
    M9079 BT
    M9080 BT
    M9081 BT
    M9083 BT
    M9086 BT
    M9094 BT
    M9097 BT
    M9098 BT
    M9099 BT
    M9100 BT
    M9103 BT
    M9105 BT
    M9110 BT
    M9111 BT
    M9113 BT
    M9114 BT
    M9116 BT
    M9118 BT
    M251 BT
    M9123 BT
    M9124 BT
    M9125 BT
    M9128 BT
    M9129 BT
    M9130 BT
    M9131 BT
    Z40383 BT
    PF713 BT
    Z40392 BT
    M9135 BT
    M9138 BT
    M9140 BT
    M9141 BT
    M9143 BT
    M9145 BT
    M9146 BT
    M9148 BT
    M9157 BT
    M9159 BT
    M9163 BT
    M9166 BT
    M9169 BT
    M9173 BT
    M9176 BT
    M9177 BT
    M9178 BT
    Y8489 BT
    M9179 BT
    M9180 BT
    M9182 BT
    Z40393 BT
    M9188 BT
    M9189 BT
    M9192 BT
    M9193 BT
    M9195 BT
    M9196 BT
    M9197 BT
    M9198 BT
    M9199 BT
    M9200 BT
    M9204 BT
    V64 BT
    M9209 BT
    L1220 BT
    M9214 BT
    M9215 BT
    M9216 BT
    M9218 BT
    L962 BT
    M9219 BT
    M9220 BT
    M9223 BT
    M9225 BT
    M9227 BT
    M9230 BT
    M9235 BT
    M9238 BT
    M9239 BT
    M9240 BT
    M9242 BT
    Y8319 BT
    Y9422 BT
    M9245 BT
    M9246 BT
    M9248 BT
    M9252 BT
    M9254 BT
    Z40405 BT
    M9255 BT
    M9257 BT
    M9258 BT
    M9260 BT
    M9261 BT
    M9262 BT
    M9263 BT
    M9265 BT
    M9266 BT
    M9267 BT
    M9269 BT
    M9277 BT
    M9278 BT
    M9280 BT
    M9282 BT
    M9283 BT
    M9284 BT
    M9285 BT
    M9286 BT
    M9289 BT
    M9290 BT
    M9291 BT
    M9296 BT
    M9298 BT
    Z17372 BT
    Y8322 BT
    Y8323 BT
    M9300 BT
    M9301 BT
    M9302 BT
    M9303 BT
    L1060 BT
    Z40406 BT
    M9310 BT
    Z40394 BT
    L438 BT
    M9315 BT
    M9316 BT
    M9317 BT
    M9318 BT
    M9319 BT
    Z40395 BT
    M9322 BT
    M9323 BT
    M9325 BT
    M9326 BT
    M9327 BT
    M9328 BT
    Z40396 BT
    M9331 BT
    M9335 BT
    M9338 BT
    L969 BT
    M9341 BT
    M42 BT
    M94 BT
    M9344 BT
    M9346 BT
    M9348 BT
    PF1096 BT
    L440 BT
    M9352 BT
    Z17385 BT
    Z40408 BT
    M9356 BT
    M9357 BT
    M9359 BT
    M9360 BT
    M9361 BT
    M9365 BT
    M9367 BT
    M9368 BT
    M9369 BT
    M9370 BT
    M9372 BT
    M9376 BT
    M9378 BT
    L604 BT
    Y8325 BT
    Z40409 BT
    Z40411 BT
    Z12129 BT
    Z40412 BT
    M9380 BT
    M9389 BT
    M9390 BT
    M9393 BT
    M9394 BT
    Z40413 BT
    M9397 BT
    M9405 BT
    M9406 BT
    Z17388 BT
    Z17389 BT
    M8947 BT
    M8949 BT
    V202 BT
    M8951 BT
    M9410 BT
    M9417 BT
    Z17390 BT
    Y10888 BT
    Z40384 BT
    M8954 BT
    M8955 BT
    M8956 BT
    M8961 BT
    M8967 BT
    M8968 BT
    M8969 BT
    L413 BT
    M8971 BT
    M8972 BT
    Z17365 BT
    Z17366 BT
    Y8310 BT
    M8977 BT
    M8983 BT
    Z40397 BT
    M8988 BT
    Z40386 BT
    M8993 BT
    V235 BT
    M8994 BT
    M8997 BT
    M8999 BT
    M9003 BT
    M9004 BT
    M9005 BT
    M9008 BT
    M9009 BT
    M9010 BT
    M9011 BT
    M9017 BT
    M9019 BT
    M9020 BT
    M9021 BT
    M9025 BT
    M9026 BT
    M9027 BT
    M9028 BT
    Z40389 BT
    M9030 BT
    M9031 BT
    L1062 BT
    M9032 BT
    M9034 BT
    M9036 BT
    M9037 BT
    M9038 BT
    M9039 BT
    M9041 BT
    M9042 BT
    M9045 BT
    M9046 BT
    Z40390 BT
    Y8311 BT
    M9064 BT
    M9065 BT
    Z40391 BT
    M11760 BT
    M9066 BT
    Z40372 BT
    Z40373 BT
    P143 CF
    CTS3818 CF
    CTS6376 CF
    Z17707 CT
    Z17710 CT
    Y1791 CT
    Z17714 CT
    M5647 CT
    M5648 CT
    M5649 CT
    Y1525 CT
    M5650 CT
    CTS1996 CT
    M5652 CT
    CTS2077 CT
    M5655 CT
    M5657 CT
    CTS2711 CT
    M5661 CT
    M168 CT
    CTS3460 CT
    CTS3662 CT
    M5675 CT
    CTS4364 CT
    M5682 CT
    M5683 CT
    M9150 CT
    CTS4740 CT
    Y1528 CT
    M5686 CT
    Y1531 CT
    M5691 CT
    M5692 CT
    CTS5532 CT
    M5695 CT
    CTS5746 CT
    M5698 CT
    CTS6252 CT
    CTS6383 CT
    M5708 CT
    M5709 CT
    M5711 CT
    M5712 CT
    CTS6800 CT
    CTS6890 CT
    CTS6907 CT
    M5716 CT
    M5717 CT
    M5721 CT
    M5723 CT
    M5724 CT
    CTS7741 CT
    M5726 CT
    CTS7933 CT
    CTS7936 CT
    M5734 CT
    CTS8243 CT
    M5738 CT
    FGC33852 CT
    M5741 CT
    M5742 CT
    CTS8542 CT
    M5747 CT
    M5749 CT
    CTS9014 CT
    M5751 CT
    CTS9458 CT
    M5754 CT
    M5756 CT
    CTS9760 CT
    CTS9828 CT
    M5765 CT
    CTS9948 CT
    PF970 CT
    L1480 CT
    M5769 CT
    CTS10362 CT
    M5771 CT
    CTS10512 CT
    PF1016 CT
    M5775 CT
    M5776 CT
    M5778 CT
    M5781 CT
    M5782 CT
    M5783 CT
    M5785 CT
    M5786 CT
    L970 CT
    M5794 CT
    Y1567 CT
    M5798 CT
    M5800 CT
    M5801 CT
    L1492 CT
    M294 CT
    CTS10946 CT
    CTS11358 CT
    M5809 CT
    M5812 CT
    Z40572 CT
    M5814 CT
    CTS11827 CT
    L977 CT
    CTS11991 CT
    M5819 CT
    M5822 CT
    M5823 CT
    Y1573 CT
    Y1574 CT
    M5825 CT
    M8948 CT
    CTS125 CT
    M5577 CT
    Y1578 CT
    PF1337 CT
    M5578 CT
    CTS423 CT
    CTS543 CT
    M5585 CT
    L1462 CT
    M5588 CT
    M5589 CT
    M5590 CT
    M5591 CT
    M5593 CT
    CTS1181 CT
    CTS1217 CT
    M5600 CT
    M5606 CT
    M5607 CT
    M5610 CT
    M5611 CT
    M5612 CT
    M5615 CT
    M5617 CT
    M5621 CT
    M5622 CT
    M5625 CT
    M5630 CT
    M5632 CT
    M5633 CT
    M5636 CT
    M5640 CT
    PF328 CT
    PF342 CT
    F1714 F
    P138 F
    F1753 F
    F1767 F
    M235 F
    CTS3536 F
    CTS3654 F
    CTS3996 F
    CTS4443 F
    F2048 F
    P163 F
    F2142 F
    L468 F
    F2155 F
    P316 F
    P139 F
    F2402 F
    P158 F
    F2688 F
    P159 F
    P161 F
    F2837 F
    L470 F
    F2985 F
    F2993 F
    P148 F
    F3136 F
    P135 F
    L882 F
    M89 F
    M3750 F
    M3751 F
    M3752 F
    F3335 F
    P157 F
    F719 F
    M3638 F
    CTS12632 F
    P141 F
    P134 F
    F1046 F
    M3647 F
    F3692 F
    P145 F
    F1209 F
    P160 F
    F1320 F
    P146 F
    P151 F
    P187 F
    FGC2417 I
    FGC2415 I
    CTS1800 I
    CTS2193 I
    CTS2514 I
    CTS2536 I
    CTS3076 I
    M170 I
    CTS3384 I
    CTS3517 I
    M258 I
    CTS4077 I
    CTS4272 I
    CTS4340 I
    L772 I
    CTS4637 I
    CTS4745 I
    CTS4752 I
    CTS4848 I
    CTS5150 I
    CTS5263 I
    PF3742 I
    CTS5622 I
    CTS5650 I
    CTS5764 I
    CTS5946 I
    CTS6231 I
    CTS6265 I
    CTS6334 I
    CTS6343 I
    CTS6344 I
    CTS6497 I
    CTS7329 I
    CTS7469 I
    CTS7502 I
    CTS7831 I
    CTS8064 I
    CTS8300 I
    CTS8345 I
    CTS8420 I
    CTS8545 I
    CTS8876 I
    L751 I
    PF3780 I
    CTS8963 I
    CTS9264 I
    CTS9269 I
    CTS9484 I
    CTS9618 I
    L41 I
    CTS10058 I
    PF3794 I
    PF3795 I
    PF3796 I
    PF3797 I
    FGC2414 I
    PF3800 I
    PF3803 I
    PF3806 I
    PF3809 I
    PF3811 I
    PF3813 I
    PF3814 I
    PF3815 I
    PF3817 I
    YSC0000272 I
    PF3822 I
    PF3836 I
    PF3837 I
    CTS10941 I
    CTS11441 I
    CTS11979 I
    CTS48 I
    CTS88 I
    CTS646 I
    CTS1006 I
    M11064 I
    CTS1301 I
    FGC2416 I
    PF3641 I
    PF3645 I
    PF3864 I
    L578 I
    FI2 I
    L755 I
    PF3660 I
    FI3 I
    L758 I
    PF3665 I
    PF3666 I
    FI4 I
    PF3677 I
    FGC2411 I
    FGC1574 IJ
    M429 IJ
    CTS3597 IJ
    CTS5387 IJ
    PF3542 IJ
    CTS6101 IJ
    CTS6349 IJ
    L748 IJ
    F2366 IJ
    CTS6932 IJ
    CTS7507 IJ
    F2794 IJ
    P124 IJ
    F4281 IJ
    CTS10200 IJ
    FGC1571 IJ
    PF3560 IJ
    Z40732 IJ
    PF3562 IJ
    CTS10998 IJ
    F3368 IJ
    F3402 IJ
    F3629 IJ
    CTS1292 IJ
    FGC1564 IJ
    FGC1587 IJ
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    FGC1573 IJ
    P130 IJ
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    F1450 IJ
    F1460 IJ
    L15 IJK
    L16 IJK
    F3689 IJK
    M2683 IJK
    M2684 IJK
    L460 I2a
    P218 I2a2
    L37 I2a2
    M436 I2a2
    L181 I2a2
    L35 I2a2
    L368 I2a2
    P217 I2a2
    P219 I2a2a
    P223 I2a2a
    L36 I2a2a
    P222 I2a2a
    P220 I2a2a
    L34 I2a2a
    P221 I2a2a
    CTS9183 I2a2a1
    CTS616 I2a2a1
    CTS10100 I2a2a1b
    Z161 I2a2a1b2
    L801 I2a2a1b2a
    Paternal: R1b-U152 >> L2 >> FGC10543 >> PR5365, Pietro Rocca, b. 1559, Agira, Sicily, Italy
    Maternal: H4a1-T152C!, Maria Coto, b. ~1864, Galicia, Spain
    Mother's Paternal: J1+ FGC4745/FGC4766+ PF5019+, Gerardo Caprio, b. 1879, Caposele, Avellino, Campania, Italy
    Father's Maternal: T2b-C150T, Francisca Santa Cruz, b.1916, Garganchon, Burgos, Spain
    Paternal Great (x3) Grandfather: R1b-U106 >> L48 >> CTS2509, Filippo Ensabella, b.~1836, Agira, Sicily, Italy

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    Incredible hidden structures near Newgrange revealed in amazing detail

    by Colm Gorey

    Aerial shot of the circular Newgrange site against a backdrop of green fields.
    The Newgrange UNESCO World Heritage site.

    Following last year’s incredible discovery of structures hidden near Newgrange, Co Meath, new digital models reveal the sites in even greater detail.

    From an archaeological standpoint, 2018 was a major high point in new discoveries, with the oppressive heatwave that swept the country last summer unexpectedly revealing many hidden structures beneath the surface of fields in the world-famous Brú na Bóinne region in Co Meath.

    With June and July being unusually dry, resulting in lengthy drought conditions, the soil eventually left a ghostly shadow of the structures beneath. Above ground when originally built, the likelihood is that they would have been left in disrepair over a period of centuries until eventually returning to the soil.

    ‘Unparalleled in the archaeological record’
    Aerial photography specialist Bluesky was then brought in to create the most up-to-date and detailed view of the landscape and discoveries as well as create 3D height measurements of the buried structures at a resolution of one metre.

    Speaking of the new findings, Minister for Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht Josepha Madigan, TD, said: “This new information is a graphic illustration of the extent and density of the ritual and ceremonial sites associated with the Newgrange passage tomb.

    “This stunning new archaeological data provides fresh, spectacular and unique insights into the origins and development of the Neolithic landscape and society.


    https://www.siliconrepublic.com/inno...erial-pictures

    https://www.archaeology.ie/sites/def...rim-report.pdf

    https://www.mythicalireland.com/MI/b...ime-discovery/

    https://youtu.be/ywlwmDl3HO8

    https://www.mythicalireland.com/MI/b...in-irish-myth/

    Anthony Murphy, was the citizen scientist who discovered the new structures and has some theories about their alignment.

    https://youtu.be/R0s74JgOMf8
    Last edited by Heber; 02-02-2019 at 11:39 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.Rocca View Post
    These further samples from the past two days:

    RISE1250 = I2a2a-L59
    RISE1252 = I2a2a1-CTS616
    RISE1254 = I2a2a1b2a-L801

    I will not be attempting to download any more samples from that study. Their servers are brutally slow.
    So here are the assignments for all the Globular Amphora Culture males. All the rest are females:

    RISE1160: I2a2a1b-CTS10057
    RISE1162: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1163: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1165: I2a2a1b2-Z161
    RISE1168: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1169: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1171: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1173: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1241: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    RISE1250: I2a2a-L59
    RISE1252: I2a2a1-CTS616
    RISE1254: I2a2a1b2a-L801
    Paternal: R1b-U152 >> L2 >> FGC10543 >> PR5365, Pietro Rocca, b. 1559, Agira, Sicily, Italy
    Maternal: H4a1-T152C!, Maria Coto, b. ~1864, Galicia, Spain
    Mother's Paternal: J1+ FGC4745/FGC4766+ PF5019+, Gerardo Caprio, b. 1879, Caposele, Avellino, Campania, Italy
    Father's Maternal: T2b-C150T, Francisca Santa Cruz, b.1916, Garganchon, Burgos, Spain
    Paternal Great (x3) Grandfather: R1b-U106 >> L48 >> CTS2509, Filippo Ensabella, b.~1836, Agira, Sicily, Italy

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    I dont know I2 that well, is the I2a2 “Germanic” clade that is today distributed more into Germanic speaking populations?

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    I was privileged to help research Dr. Enzo Farinella’s series of books on the Irish (and Scottish) Monastic Movement and their impact on the construction of Europe. The books were successfully launched in ten countries and are available on Amazon.

    While living in Germany for five years I made a point of visiting the numerous Schottenkloister, all of them beautiful and worth a detour.

    https://www.enzofarinella.com/books/
    https://pin.it/f7jgfla7rvlnow
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    ”Irish monasticism from the 6th to the 14th century was an important part in human history. Salzburg & Vienna in Austria, St. Gallen in Switzerland, Wurzburg & Ratisbon in Germany, Bobbio in Italy, Iona & Lindisfarne in Britain, Luxeuil in France, are the most important cultural & religious centres founded by Irish monks. Europe as whole owes them a huge debt of gratitude.”

    At some stage (after retirement) I will get round to identifying the family DNA of the founder monks of these monasteries. One of my research interests in Bishop John Corcoran who completed his doctorate in Wurzburg and Prague.

    https://pin.it/rgmli4idrdgjk6
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