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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruderico View Post
    Even ancient aboriginals get tested before ancient Romans. With all due respect, but I can't tell whether that's hilarious or just sad
    Romans? Who were they? was there even any archaeological finding connected to these "Romans" you speak of to take samples from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erikl86 View Post
    Romans? Who were they? was there even any archaeological finding connected to these "Romans" you speak of to take samples from?
    A varying mixture of Neolithic Europeans and migrating Indo-European Latin speakers from Central Europe, to which you owe a large chunk of your ancestry (roughly 35-40%) after they conquered the landmass you currently live on. Their impressive legacy lives on in the hearts and souls of modern day Italians (Romans) from North to South.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LTG View Post
    A varying mixture of Neolithic Europeans and migrating Indo-European Latin speakers from Central Europe, to which you owe a large chunk of your ancestry (roughly 35-40%) after they conquered the landmass you currently live on. Their impressive legacy lives on in the hearts and souls of modern day Italians (Romans) from North to South.
    I think Erikl86 was being sarcastic. Maybe he should have used one of those winking emoticons.
     


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    Quote Originally Posted by LTG View Post
    A varying mixture of Neolithic Europeans and migrating Indo-European Latin speakers from Central Europe, to which you owe a large chunk of your ancestry (roughly 35-40%) after they conquered the landmass you currently live on. Their impressive legacy lives on in the hearts and souls of modern day Italians (Romans) from North to South.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    I think Erikl86 was being sarcastic. Maybe he should have used one of those winking emoticons.
    Yes, you could be right. It is just quite difficult to discern what is serious and what is comedy from Erik at this point, considering his penchant for 'out there' theories. I thought maybe we were in store for another one regarding the Romans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    I think Erikl86 was being sarcastic. Maybe he should have used one of those winking emoticons.
    IME they don't always work either : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by LTG View Post
    Yes, you could be right. It is just quite difficult to discern what is serious and what is comedy from Erik at this point, considering his penchant for 'out there' theories. I thought maybe we were in store for another one regarding the Romans.
    So much frustration at such a young age... grow up and learn what sarcasm is.

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    I suggest you drink a glass of cold water, relax, and stop trolling me with beef you might have against me from another thread just because things I put forward don't add up to your own personal feelings or beliefs. This is both childish and derails the level of conversations drastically. Any more ad hominem replies from you towards me which have nothing to do with the respective thread itself, and I'm reporting you to the admins on being a troll, capisci?
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    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...002/ajpa.23746

    Molecular analysis of an ancient Thule population at Nuvuk, Point Barrow, Alaska

    Justin Tackney
    Anne M. Jensen
    Caroline Kisielinski
    Dennis H. O'Rourke

    First published: 09 January 2019

    https://doi.org/10.1002/ajpa.23746

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    Objectives

    The North American archaeological record supports a Holocene origin of Arctic Indigenous peoples. Although the Paleo‐Inuit were present for millennia, archaeological and genetic studies suggest that modern peoples descend from a second, more recent tradition known as the Neo‐Inuit. Origins of the Neo‐Inuit and their relations to the earlier and later Indigenous peoples are an area of active study. Here, we genetically analyze the maternal lineages present at Nuvuk, once the northernmost community in Alaska and located in a region identified as a possible origin point of the Neo‐Inuit Thule. The cemetery at Nuvuk contains human remains representing a nearly one thousand year uninterrupted occupation from early Thule to post‐contact Iñupiat.

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    We selected 44 individuals from Nuvuk with calibrated dates between 981 AD and 1885 AD for molecular analysis. We amplified and sequenced the hypervariable segment I of the mitogenome. We compared the Nuvuk data with previously published sequences from 68 modern and ancient communities from across Asia and North America. Phylogeographic analyses suggest possible scenarios of Holocene Arctic and sub‐Arctic population movements.

    Results

    We successfully retrieved sequence data from 39 individuals. Haplogroup frequencies in Nuvuk were typed as 66.7% A2b1, 25.6% A2a, and 7.7% D4b1a2a1a. These results suggest that the population at Nuvuk was closest to the ancient Thule and modern Inuit of Canada, and to the Siberian Naukan people. We confirm that haplogroups A2a, A2b1, D2a, and D4b1a2a1a appear at high frequency in Arctic and sub‐Arctic populations of North America and Chukotka. Sister clades D2b and D4b1a2a1b are present in Asian and Eastern European populations.

    Discussion

    The ancient mitochondrial sequences from Nuvuk confirm the link between the North Slope and the Thule who later spread east, and the maternal discontinuity between the Neo‐Inuit and Paleo‐Inuit. We suggest haplogroups A2a, A2b, and D4b1a2a1a are linked to the ancestors of the Thule in eastern Beringia, whereas the D2 and D4b1a2a1 clades appear to have Asian Holocene origins. Further Siberian and Alaskan genomes are necessary to clarify these population migrations beyond a simple two‐wave scenario of Neo‐Inuit and Paleo‐Inuit.

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    Ancient mitochondrial DNA and population dynamics in postclassic Central Mexico: Tlatelolco (ad 1325–1520) and Cholula (ad 900–1350)

    Ana Y. Morales-Arce, Geoffrey McCafferty, Jessica Hand, Norma Schmill, Krista McGrath, Camilla Speller

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    The past composition and genetic diversity of populations from Central Mexico during the Postclassic period (ad 900–1520) are still little understood. Two of the largest centres of ancient groups, Tlatelolco and Cholula, declined after European conquest and questions about their relationships with other Central Mexican cities and ritual activities have been debated. Tlatelolco was a Mexica group that practiced the Quetzalcoatl cult and human sacrifice, including the sacrifice of children, while Cholula was considered the main pilgrimage centre and multiethnic city during the Postclassic. This study analysed the mitochondrial DNA control region of 28 human skeletal samples to estimate the genetic affinities of individuals buried at Tlatelolco and Cholula. Amelogenin analysis and whole genome sequencing (WGS) were also applied to determine the sex of the 15 Tlatelolco subadults from sacrificial contexts. Networks, PCoA and Nei genetic distances were calculated to compare Tlatelolco and Cholula haplotypes with available ancient haplotype data from Mesoamerican groups and the two borderland areas, Paquimé and Greater Nicoya. Mitochondrial haplogroups were characterized for 11 of the 15 samples from Tlatelolco (73%) and 12 samples out of 13 from Cholula (92%), revealing the presence of four distinct Amerindian mitochondrial lineages at Tlateloloco, A (n = 6; 55%), B (n = 2; 18%), C (n = 1; 9%) and D (n = 2; 10%); and three lineages in Cholula, A (n = 5; 42%), B (n = 5; 42%) and C (n = 2; 16%). Statistical analysis of the haplotypes, haplogroup frequencies and Nei genetic distances showed close affinity of Tlatelolco’s subadults with ancient Mexica (Aztecs) and closer affinities between Cholula and the Xaltocan of the Basin of Mexico. Sex determination of Tlatelolco subadult sacrifice victims revealed that 83% were females, in contrast to previous studies of subadult sacrificial patterns at the site. Together, these results demonstrate the multi-ethnic nature of religious and economic centres in Postclassic Central Mexico.

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