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    Quote Originally Posted by rozenfeld View Post
    Note: Do I understand correctly that this topic is only for posting articles and news about ancient DNA and all the discussion should be in another topic?
    That's my understanding, but if so it gets ignored from time to time : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdean View Post
    Really don't think that's relevant.
    Well i researched a little bit and the first name Jennifer Klunk came from the Faculty of Social Sciences from Mcaster University in Canada. So, we should all remember this is 2019 and the happy times are over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfalp View Post
    Well i researched a little bit and the first name Jennifer Klunk came from the Faculty of Social Sciences from Mcaster University in Canada. So, we should all remember this is 2019 and the happy times are over.
    I hope you realise that what you are implying is very biased/discriminatory and disrespectful, considering you have no clue who the person in question is besides a random name.
    You didn't even do a good job at researching either, since you didn't say she actually specializes in ancient DNA

    https://scholar.google.ca/citations?...vrAAAAAJ&hl=en

    Jennifer Klunk
    McMaster Ancient DNA Centre, McMaster University

    Yersinia pestis and the Plague of Justinian 541–543 AD: a genomic analysis
    Ancient human genomics: the methodology behind reconstructing evolutionary pathways
    Genetic resiliency and the Black Death: No apparent loss of mitogenomic diversity due to the Black Death in medieval London and Denmark
    etc



    With that said, I hope they stop doing studies that focus on mtDNA only, it's not as informative as auDNA and yDNA can be
    YDNA - E-Y31991>PF4428>BY36857. Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1680 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal
    mtDNA - H20. Maria Josefa de Almeida, b. circa 1750 Hidden Content , Porto, Portugal

    Global25 PCA West Eurasia dataset Hidden Content
    Hidden Content


    [1] "distance%=1.7726"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruderico View Post
    With that said, I hope they stop doing studies that focus on mtDNA only, it's not as informative as auDNA and yDNA can be
    And whether it's YDNA or mtDNA, would they please stop doing these tiny panels and secure enough funding for some finer detail?
    Some of these studies cover periods that could provide critical data on the expansion of some haplotypes.
    Instead they describe only the general. Even when recovery levels should allow finer detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruderico View Post
    I hope you realise that what you are implying is very biased/discriminatory and disrespectful, considering you have no clue who the person in question is besides a random name.
    You didn't even do a good job at researching either, since you didn't say she actually specializes in ancient DNA

    https://scholar.google.ca/citations?...vrAAAAAJ&hl=en

    Jennifer Klunk
    McMaster Ancient DNA Centre, McMaster University

    Yersinia pestis and the Plague of Justinian 541–543 AD: a genomic analysis
    Ancient human genomics: the methodology behind reconstructing evolutionary pathways
    Genetic resiliency and the Black Death: No apparent loss of mitogenomic diversity due to the Black Death in medieval London and Denmark
    etc



    With that said, I hope they stop doing studies that focus on mtDNA only, it's not as informative as auDNA and yDNA can be

    I aint gonna enter in the whole discriminatory/disrespectful demeanor because it's not the point, the point is ; humans are biased, and how do we know if some " realities " were not based on biased arguments? Everyday, there is biased subjects on the news, but apparently people like to be selective with the kind of bias they want to follow and the one they want to dismiss.

    And i saw the studies she participate to, it doesn't mean anything in terms of bias or projections. I dont know how Canada Universities juge on the abilities to some people to lead things. But what i know about Canada and Social Sciences is extremely biased stuffs.

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    Unless you have some substantive criticism of her work, I'd keep my mouth shut if I were you. Few of us here are fans of the pseudo-social justice shenanigans that have plagued academia as of late, but your statement is difficult to read as anything more than sexist prejudice and only gives ammunition to the cry bullies.
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    THIS THREAD IS FOR NOTIFICATIONS OF NEW ANCIENT DNA RELATED NEWS. PLEASE MOVE THESE OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSIONS ELSEWHERE. THANKS!
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    A Transient Pulse of Genetic Admixture from the Crusaders in the Near East Identified from Ancient Genome Sequences

    Marc Haber
    Claude Doumet-Serhal
    Christiana L. Scheib
    Holger Schutkowski
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    Open Access Published:April 18, 2019
    DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ajhg.2019.03.015


    "During the medieval period, hundreds of thousands of Europeans migrated to the Near East to take part in the Crusades, and many of them settled in the newly established Christian states along the Eastern Mediterranean coast. Here, we present a genetic snapshot of these events and their aftermath by sequencing the whole genomes of 13 individuals who lived in what is today known as Lebanon between the 3rd and 13th centuries CE. These include nine individuals from the “Crusaders’ pit” in Sidon, a mass burial in South Lebanon identified from the archaeology as the grave of Crusaders killed during a battle in the 13th century CE. We show that all of the Crusaders’ pit individuals were males; some were Western Europeans from diverse origins, some were locals (genetically indistinguishable from present-day Lebanese), and two individuals were a mixture of European and Near Eastern ancestries, providing direct evidence that the Crusaders admixed with the local population. However, these mixtures appear to have had limited genetic consequences since signals of admixture with Europeans are not significant in any Lebanese group today—in particular, Lebanese Christians are today genetically similar to local people who lived during the Roman period which preceded the Crusades by more than four centuries."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebuchadnezzar II View Post
    A Transient Pulse of Genetic Admixture from the Crusaders in the Near East Identified from Ancient Genome Sequences
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    ERS3189349	SI-38	Sidon		medieval	-		male	J1b4a1	E-L677
    ERS3189350	SI-39	Sidon		medieval	1191-1283	male	H5'36	R-P312
    ERS3189351	SI-40	Sidon		medieval	-		male	U5a1g	R-P311
    ERS3189352	SI-41	Sidon		medieval	1187-1266	male	HV0a	R-DF27
    ERS3189353	SI-42	Sidon		medieval	1154-1281	male	J1b1a1	T-M70
    ERS3189348	SI-44	Sidon		medieval	-		male	HV1b	J-M304
    ERS3189355	SI-45	Sidon		medieval	1219-1278	male	J1d1a1	Q-M346
    ERS3189357	SI-47	Sidon		medieval	-		male	H2a5	R-M269
    ERS3189343	SI-53	Sidon		medieval	1025-1154	male	T2	R-CTS300
    ERS3189333	QED-2	Qornet ed-Deir	Roman		244-400		male	T1	T-CTS9882
    ERS3189335	QED-4	Qornet ed-Deir	Roman		426-632		female	U3b	N/A
    ERS3189338	QED-7	Qornet ed-Deir	Roman		237-389		female	HV1b	N/A
    ERS3189339	QED-9	Qornet ed-Deir	Roman		-		female	H	N/A
    ERS3189342	QED-12	Qornet ed-Deir	Roman		-		female	H2a5	N/A

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