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    karl marx haplogroup j1 ???

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    with the surname marx .....
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    G-d no, that sounds awful, anyone but Marx please.
    מכורותיך ומולדותיך מארץ הכנעני אביך האמורי ואמך חתית
    יחזקאל פרק טז ג-


    ᾽Άλλο δέ τοι ἐρέω, σὺ δ᾽ ἐνὶ φρεσὶ βάλλεο σῇσιν:
    κρύβδην, μηδ᾽ ἀναφανδά, φίλην ἐς πατρίδα γαῖαν
    νῆα κατισχέμεναι: ἐπεὶ οὐκέτι πιστὰ γυναιξίν.


    -Αγαμέμνων; H Οδύσσεια, Ραψωδία λ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agamemnon View Post
    G-d no, that sounds awful, anyone but Marx please.
    Do you prefer Groucho Marx?
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    If that is right, thank God he wasn't R1b.

    We have Hitler as E1b1b, Stalin as G2a, and Napoleon as E1b1b.

    We're doing okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camulogène Rix View Post
    Do you prefer Groucho Marx?
    Oh, yes. Groucho was a comic genius.

    Karl Marx was an idiot who caused the deaths of millions of people and untold heartache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camulogène Rix View Post
    Do you prefer Groucho Marx?
    I can live with that, on the bright side seems Dustin Hoffman (who looked exactly like my father when he was younger) has the exact same paternal lineage as myself (Z18271), gives Marathon Man a whole new twist for me at least... "C'est sans danger"

    But I'd say it's quite likely Karl Marx was J1, probably even Z18271 like Dustin Hoffman, he was descended from a line of rabbis after all... Unfortunately so.
    Last edited by Agamemnon; 02-19-2017 at 11:23 PM.
    מכורותיך ומולדותיך מארץ הכנעני אביך האמורי ואמך חתית
    יחזקאל פרק טז ג-


    ᾽Άλλο δέ τοι ἐρέω, σὺ δ᾽ ἐνὶ φρεσὶ βάλλεο σῇσιν:
    κρύβδην, μηδ᾽ ἀναφανδά, φίλην ἐς πατρίδα γαῖαν
    νῆα κατισχέμεναι: ἐπεὶ οὐκέτι πιστὰ γυναιξίν.


    -Αγαμέμνων; H Οδύσσεια, Ραψωδία λ

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    Engels might have been R1b, and that is bad enough. I hope he was I-M253 instead.

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...ction=yresults
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    Although I'm politically right and pro-small business, I don't mind Karl Marx, despite the monsters who followed in his footsteps. In modern North America, the working classes are pampered and unions hold far too much power. This is a sharp contrast to the exploitation of the blue collar workers of industralizing London where a good many of my ancestors came from. I definitely understand how communism came into fruition, at least in theory.

    rms2, did Marx really "cause" anything though? Individuals need to be responsible for their actions. It's like suggesting Jesus caused the deaths of millions in the name of Christianity. The working class in England was exploited a very long time.
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    p ggf YDNA: R1b-L48. Scott, William Hamilton Ireland(?) 1800s

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    Welch: early 1800s E-M84 Kent, England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    Oh, yes. Groucho was a comic genius.

    Karl Marx was an idiot who caused the deaths of millions of people and untold heartache.
    I call our forum admins to remind forum rules. Please think twice when write something.
    Last edited by Anabasis; 02-20-2017 at 03:21 AM.

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