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    U152 Predictions with Nevgen

    To my surprise, my little cluster has been accurately predicted using the R1b specific setting of the Nevgen predictor found here:

    http://www.nevgen.org/

    My group is U152 > L2 > ZZ48 > ZZ56 > FGC10516. I'm positive for some subclades as well, but I think it is great that this tool predicted FGC10516 as 100% probability, especially at only 67 markers. Have other U152 folks had similar success?
    Paternal: R1b-U152 >> L2 >> FGC10543 >> PR5365, Pietro Rocca, b. 1559, Agira, Sicily, Italy
    Maternal: H4a1-T152C!, Maria Coto, b. ~1864, Galicia, Spain
    Mother's Paternal: J1+ FGC4745/FGC4766+ PF5019+, Gerardo Caprio, b. 1879, Caposele, Avellino, Campania, Italy
    Father's Maternal: T2b-C150T, Francisca Santa Cruz, b.1916, Garganchon, Burgos, Spain
    Paternal Great (x3) Grandfather: R1b-U106 >> L48 >> CTS2509, Filippo Ensabella, b.~1836, Agira, Sicily, Italy

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    The guys who created that predictor have updated the R1b part several times, including as recently as yesterday, I think. (Anyway, in Feb. 2017.) I posted about it on a more general thread today: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post216786

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.Rocca View Post
    To my surprise, my little cluster has been accurately predicted using the R1b specific setting of the Nevgen predictor found here:

    http://www.nevgen.org/

    My group is U152 > L2 > ZZ48 > ZZ56 > FGC10516. I'm positive for some subclades as well, but I think it is great that this tool predicted FGC10516 as 100% probability, especially at only 67 markers. Have other U152 folks had similar success?
    I just get

    R1b (for 67+ markers, try level for R1b-s, 160+ subclades)
    100 56.58 1.14

    Is there some extra step I'm missing?
    Y DNA line continued: Z142>Z12222>FGC12378>FGC12401>FGC12384
    35% English, 26% Scot/Ulster Scot, 14% Welsh, 14% German, 5% Ireland, 3% Nordic, 2% French/Dutch, 1% India
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    Correctly predicted S8183 for me, with 61 % probability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbarry6899 View Post
    Correctly predicted S8183 for me, with 61 % probability.
    So you are just using the main page to get this result?
    Y DNA line continued: Z142>Z12222>FGC12378>FGC12401>FGC12384
    35% English, 26% Scot/Ulster Scot, 14% Welsh, 14% German, 5% Ireland, 3% Nordic, 2% French/Dutch, 1% India
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    on the left hand side there are what look like three sliders. Click those to select the matching algorithm. Choose the one for R1b subclade.

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    By SNP testing I am Z34+ Z35- Confirmed by FTDNA as CTS9044. I was predicted by nevgen as Z33 with 98.6% probability. Is Z33 equivalent to Z34+ but Z35- ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbarry6899 View Post
    on the left hand side there are what look like three sliders. Click those to select the matching algorithm. Choose the one for R1b subclade.
    Thanks it won't work with my smart phone so I'll try it on a laptop
    Y DNA line continued: Z142>Z12222>FGC12378>FGC12401>FGC12384
    35% English, 26% Scot/Ulster Scot, 14% Welsh, 14% German, 5% Ireland, 3% Nordic, 2% French/Dutch, 1% India
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.Rocca View Post
    To my surprise, my little cluster has been accurately predicted using the R1b specific setting of the Nevgen predictor found here:

    http://www.nevgen.org/

    My group is U152 > L2 > ZZ48 > ZZ56 > FGC10516. I'm positive for some subclades as well, but I think it is great that this tool predicted FGC10516 as 100% probability, especially at only 67 markers. Have other U152 folks had similar success?
    Ok now that I did it using the correct calculator using 111 markers I got R1b U152>L2>Z49>Z142> Z150>FGC12378 saying 100% probability. That is 100% correct.

    I was able to get down to the first 52 markers and still maintain 100% chance I was correctly identified.
    1-37 markers gets 99.46% probability of FGC12378.
    1-33 markers gets 91.9% probability of FGC12378.
    1-25 markers gets 67.1% probability of FGC12378.
    1-12 markers gets 6.25% probability of FGC12378.

    That's quite impressive.
    Last edited by MitchellSince1893; 02-28-2017 at 11:45 PM.
    Y DNA line continued: Z142>Z12222>FGC12378>FGC12401>FGC12384
    35% English, 26% Scot/Ulster Scot, 14% Welsh, 14% German, 5% Ireland, 3% Nordic, 2% French/Dutch, 1% India
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    Just tried it on a 3 other SNP test confirmed U152>L2+ folks and it's not doing very good.

    At 67 markers it said first man was:
    64.9% chance he's R1b L21>DF13>ZZ10>Z255> Z16429
    And less 10% chance he's R1b U152>L2

    The other U152>L2+ fellow came at 67 markers had:
    41.6% chance R1b L21>> ZZ10>Z253> Z2186>L106,
    28.9% chance R1b L21>DF13> ZZ10>Z253> S847
    And only .72% chance of actually being L2+

    A L2>Z49+ fellow at 67 markers came out:
    30.35% chance R1b L51>L151> CTS4528> S14328
    20.95% chance R1b L21>DF13> FGC5494
    17.42% chance R1b L21>> ZZ10>Z253> Z2186>L1066
    .02% chance R1b U152>L2> Z49

    Oh well. I was all excited based on how accurate it was with my results, but these 3 samples show it's not very accurate on other results.
    Y DNA line continued: Z142>Z12222>FGC12378>FGC12401>FGC12384
    35% English, 26% Scot/Ulster Scot, 14% Welsh, 14% German, 5% Ireland, 3% Nordic, 2% French/Dutch, 1% India
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