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    NEVGEN Y-DNA Haplogroup Predictor

    Have you all tried the NEVGEN Y-dna Haplogroup Predictor? There is a thread in the U152 subforum about it, so I thought I would give it a try. It got my subclade right on the money.

    Not bad.

    Click on the little white sliders symbol in the upper left and then click on the button for the R1b subclades.

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    Here's a screenshot showing my NEVGEN prediction and the list of the top ten.

    nevgen y dna haplogroup predictor top ten.png

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    You got good results. It isn't optimized for all R1b subclades, yet:

    nevcap.jpg

    D'oh.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Well, my subclade is limited to my haplotype cluster, which is fairly tight knit, so it isn't too hard to predict, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    Well, my subclade is limited to my haplotype cluster, which is fairly tight knit, so it isn't too hard to predict, really.
    Yeah, if you look at choices #13 and #16, they skip right past R-Z17112 for me, but can't even confirm the possibility of any kind of DF19. It would have worked better for old 6DRIF-23 -- he's a S17075
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    Yeah, if you look at choices #13 and #16, they skip right past R-Z17112 for me, but can't even confirm the possibility of any kind of DF19. It would have worked better for old 6DRIF-23 -- he's a S17075
    Have many DF19 guys done the Big Y and submitted their files and STRs to Alex Williamson?

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    Quite a few have done Big Y, but only about 20 sent their data to Alex so far (I have). I wish more would. The ftdna volunteer DF19 group administrators are about to put out a revised report with all the big y they already had (~150) plus 26 new ones from the last 3-4 months.

    FWIW, about half of the DF19s reporting so far seem to be descendants of Z17112, who seems to have had a lot of sons/grandsons, and S17075 mutation may only have been around 15 generations old when 6Drif-23 lost his head.
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 03-04-2017 at 03:51 PM.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    It worked perfectly for me, and I am in one of the smaller/rarer subclades of L21 (R-Z16500).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbean1 View Post
    It worked perfectly for me, and I am in one of the smaller/rarer subclades of L21 (R-Z16500).

    haplogroup_predictor.png
    It may work best for smaller clades because there are fewer haplotypes involved, as long as they aren't too diverse. My subclade is fairly small, as well, and our haplotypes don't vary all that much.

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